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Jason Brown

knghcm said:
Any chance his program will be posted on Youtube soon after? I can't afford IceNetwork.
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Videos usually pop up pretty quickly after. No guarantees but its very normal for them to pop up in the event thread specified for videos. The Dance SD's are already up.


Go Jason!!! :cheer2:
 
I just watched Jason's short - Good for him for getting the quad attempt out there, and not letting it distract from the rest of the program. I can't say I'm warming up to the music, to be honest - but he did well with it. :)
 
Quotes from Jason post SP: (http://www.usfigureskatingfanzone.com/uncategorized/2015-four-continents-championships-4ccseoul/)

I am excited. My goal was that I wanted to integrate a quad and do it to the best of my ability in that moment and once it was over, leave it there and continue on. I’m really proud of that and I’m proud that I tried it.

(on when he decided to do quad in short) It was right after the U.S. Championships. Kori looked at me and was like, ‘when we go to Four Continents, you’re going to do a quad toe.’ And I was like, ‘ok, if you say so.’ It’s one of those jumps that’s really coming along and at home it’s getting more and more consistent. There is no better time to try it than right now and leading up to worlds and try to see how it goes. If it does get more consistent for worlds, I can look back and know that I’ve tried it before in competition.

We weren’t really focused on score today. We were focused on what I can do with what we’re putting out. We had no idea where I would stand. For the long it’s a new day to start fresh.


Video of his SP (thanks sarinfire!):http://youtu.be/rHyOMa6iL0M
 
He can nail the wonderful Lp even though get on the podium is quite difficult at this point. Still nice try Jason.
 
Mrs. P said:
Quotes from Jason post SP: (http://www.usfigureskatingfanzone.com/uncategorized/2015-four-continents-championships-4ccseoul/)

I am excited. My goal was that I wanted to integrate a quad and do it to the best of my ability in that moment and once it was over, leave it there and continue on. I’m really proud of that and I’m proud that I tried it.

(on when he decided to do quad in short) It was right after the U.S. Championships. Kori looked at me and was like, ‘when we go to Four Continents, you’re going to do a quad toe.’ And I was like, ‘ok, if you say so.’ It’s one of those jumps that’s really coming along and at home it’s getting more and more consistent. There is no better time to try it than right now and leading up to worlds and try to see how it goes. If it does get more consistent for worlds, I can look back and know that I’ve tried it before in competition.

We weren’t really focused on score today. We were focused on what I can do with what we’re putting out. We had no idea where I would stand. For the long it’s a new day to start fresh.


Video of his SP (thanks sarinfire!):http://youtu.be/rHyOMa6iL0M
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Great to here that he is proud about it - he deserves to be.

Maybe one of the big problems with this jump for him is just that he has too much respect for it. It's a huge thing, and you can't blame anyone for getting tight going into it, even in practice. Now that he did it out in competition, maybe he'll have a more relaxed mindset and approach in practice - knowing that he managed to stand up on it befreo an audience. And maybe that's what he needs to get it up to the next level. There are some reports from people who saw his attempts at open practices (mainly nationals), all saying "it didn't look so good". But if he says it's going well at home, maybe it's the expectations and pressure getting to him when there are people watching him.
Anyway, I think they did the right thing. Now he can go rock it in the LP, and I'm optimistic he'll get the quad in the upcoming seasons (needing more than one season to master a quad is perfectly fine!) :)
 
I don't think the SP is a big deal. Even if he doesn't medal at 4CC... so what? As much as it sucks--considering the level of competition--4CC carries little prestige. Since unlike, say, Josh, Jason doesn't need the high placements to get into later groups at Worlds, it's actually a good place to try new things.

I only wish it hadn't ended up as a downgrade, since the idiot rules seem to prefer fully rotated falls... Hopefully rotation doesn't become a constant problem.
 
Sandpiper said:
I don't think the SP is a big deal. Even if he doesn't medal at 4CC... so what? As much as it sucks--considering the level of competition--4CC carries little prestige. Since unlike, say, Josh, Jason doesn't need the high placements to get into later groups at Worlds, it's actually a good place to try new things.
I only wish it hadn't ended up as a downgrade, since the idiot rules seem to prefer fully rotated falls... Hopefully rotation doesn't become a constant problem.
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Can anyone tell me if the judging at 4CC has much weight over other competitions? I still see skaters that have been 4CC champions get bad score at Worlds, Olympics...
If that's the case then I don't think it's that worrying for Jason. Better here than at WC.
 
^ Who are you referring to Meoima, Kevin?
I don't think this SP here is going to change anything about the PCS he'll get at worlds. He'll probably move up with his LP anyway, and if he makes top 6 that's fine.
 
Li'Kitsu said:
^ Who are you referring to Meoima, Kevin?
I don't think this SP here is going to change anything about the PCS he'll get at worlds. He'll probably move up with his LP anyway, and if he makes top 6 that's fine.
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Kanako Murakami... Then Takahito Mura. I remember they havn't gotten the boost for winning this title. What I want to ask is, if one does not well at 4CC, does that affect their score at WC right after that?
 
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Meoima said:
Kanako Murakami... Then Takahito Mura. I remember they havn't gotten the boost for winning this title. What I want to ask is, if one does not well at 4CC, does that affect their score at WC right after that?
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Last season was all about the Olympics. I don't think all too many people really cared about 4CC last season... it didn't hurt Denis to only get 4th there or even 12th or something the year before. He still ended up with silver and bronze at his next bis events. Yuzu was also beating by Kevin and it didn't see to change anything about their scores. So I don't think it'll hurt Jason at all.
 
I hate that a rotated fall would be worth more, because I would rather be happy he stood up on it. But ohh well. He got through, it is what it is. I still maintain 4CCs is a good place to try it. With luck he can go into worlds without people pestering him about the quad. He tried it, he never will have to face the pressure of first quad attempt again. With luck his next quad attempt won't merit a news article on its own and will be less stressful. Getting that first attempt and the attention that goes with it out of the way is huge for him. Now maybe he knows better what he needs to do in his own mind and body to take it the next step.

It will come with time.
 
Li'Kitsu said:
Last season was all about the Olympics. I don't think all too many people really cared about 4CC last season... it didn't hurt Denis to only get 4th there or even 12th or something the year before. He still ended up with silver and bronze at his next bis events. Yuzu was also beating by Kevin and it didn't see to change anything about their scores. So I don't think it'll hurt Jason at all.
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Also a huge thing to consider is peaking. U.S. Nationals was only about 3 weeks ago. I think he put a lot of stock in skating well at Nationals and making the World team (I mean aiming for 40+ clean SPs and FS in the month leading up for the competition), so it was going to be really tough to taper and then try to peak again so soon. So I think maybe dangling a new challenge in front of him kept him motivated.

Also now he has a fancy new layout with a 3-3 in the second half and now that he's done it with a quad, probably doing it without won't seem so difficult.

As an athlete you have to keep your own goals in mind and not get tripped up on the forest from the trees.
 
StitchMonkey said:
I hate that a rotated fall would be worth more, because I would rather be happy he stood up on it. But ohh well. He got through, it is what it is. I still maintain 4CCs is a good place to try it. With luck he can go into worlds without people pestering him about the quad. He tried it, he never will have to face the pressure of first quad attempt again. With luck his next quad attempt won't merit a news article on its own and will be less stressful. Getting that first attempt and the attention that goes with it out of the way is huge for him. Now maybe he knows better what he needs to do in his own mind and body to take it the next step.

It will come with time.
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:yes: I am happy - and proud - that he stood up on it. I admire someone more for standing up on a bad jump - than falling on a "good" one. (Also, I never have - nor never will - understand how a jump that someone fell on could be "good"? Or if it was "good" - what the excuse for falling on it could be? But it's the modern mindset. I recall a thread that discussed the best 4Ts - and a few people mentioned Plushy of course. But others countered by saying that just because his quads were consistent, didn't mean they were particularly good. And how much better others' quads were - when they didn't fall on them. But I digress.)
 
And just from a physical health standpoint, falls are brutal to the body, even an athlete. It's just not worth putting your body through that kind of abuse--- so if you can avoid falling, I see that as a good thing. It's not for IJS, but from a stay healthy for your career, it is. :yes:
 
Mrs. P said:
Also a huge thing to consider is peaking. U.S. Nationals was only about 3 weeks ago. I think he put a lot of stock in skating well at Nationals and making the World team (I mean aiming for 40+ clean SPs and FS in the month leading up for the competition), so it was going to be really tough to taper and then try to peak again so soon. So I think maybe dangling a new challenge in front of him kept him motivated.

Also now he has a fancy new layout with a 3-3 in the second half and now that he's done it with a quad, probably doing it without won't seem so difficult.

As an athlete you have to keep your own goals in mind and not get tripped up on the forest from the trees.
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Yes, that's also true. Jason also had to deal with the huge pressure of being the fave for nationals, so that must have been draining as well. And than he did it, so that's probably a whole roller coaster ride of emotions. If you look at his season as a whole, he's doing a really good job.
Besides that, I'll be happy as long as he is happy :)
 
Mrs. P said:
And just from a physical health standpoint, falls are brutal to the body, even an athlete. It's just not worth putting your body through that kind of abuse--- so if you can avoid falling, I see that as a good thing. It's not for IJS, but from a stay healthy for your career, it is. :yes:
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That is the thing that might bug me most about IJS, is it encouraging people to do something unsafe for points? I can't help but feel like you do, that falling is bad for the body, and it is hard to not see an under-rotation as safer.
 
I'm very sorry for Jason.
I do not understand the method of score
Could someone explain to me how can happen that someone falls twice and finished on the podium? It depends on the cup or on jury?
 
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