Jason Brown
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Oh just a bunch of meanies in various social media....
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Somebody on FSU has already decided it's < and not clean. And I'm sure others will say the same. And others will say it's only once and it's not in competition. And if he lands it in competition they will still say he can't be competitive with Hanyu et al because he's only doing a 4T and they're doing multiple quads. And if he manages to make it to worlds and medal they'll probably say it was a fluke or the judges were biased. 
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It's not your bias talking. That was every bit as good as any Joshua has landed, as any Artur has landed, heck, there's a King out there who would be smiling approvingly watching this. It is STUNNING.
*makes notes* I have a list of various Australian animals to be tossed to my favourites, should they make the Worlds team.
A known Jason Hater. They will grasp at anything and everything.
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Somebody on FSU has already decided it's < and not clean. And I'm sure others will say the same. And others will say it's only once and it's not in competition. And if he lands it in competition they will still say he can't be competitive with Hanyu et al because he's only doing a 4T and they're doing multiple quads. And if he manages to make it to worlds and medal they'll probably say it was a fluke or the judges were biased.
Yeah... that is pretty much the narrative.
It is slightly short, but it is also clearly passed the 1/4 short mark making it clean. If some people want to start arguing 1/5 short is UR... well let them think that.
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I didn't realize s/he was a known Jason hater but I figured you had already responded adequately. Also, I know you're a technical stickler and will always state the truth as you see it, so I knew there was no way you would have called it clean as a whistle if it wasn't!
Of course we all have our favorite skaters and those whose skating we don't like, but I still find it really hard to understand how people can take it to the level they sometimes do. Besides Jason, Patrick Chan is another one who seems to draw a lot of ire.
Speaking of Patrick Chan, his new SP was recently posted on YouTube:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TELI674xQU0
The thing I find most amazing about this actually takes place before he starts the program: he does a few crossovers and then just glides around and around in circles before he gets to his starting position. Wow. But the reason I'm posting it here is because I wondered if it reminded anyone else a bit of Jason's short program. This is Sabinfire's Skeleton Program video (because I really can't stand to watch the falls at Glacier Falls):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=1mDRO8WnZJo
Thoughts? Their use of the upper body is quite different, Jason's style is a bit more show biz with the split jump (or " hokey" as some would say
), and I dare say Patrick's speed and flow are better at this point. But the music and choreography share similarities, and based on Kori's comments about the FS in her TSL interview, I'm wondering if this was a deliberate choice on Team Koro's part or just a coincidence. It will be interesting to see how both programs and performances have evolved by season's end.
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Somebody on FSU has already decided it's < and not clean. And I'm sure others will say the same. And others will say it's only once and it's not in competition. And if he lands it in competition they will still say he can't be competitive with Hanyu et al because he's only doing a 4T and they're doing multiple quads. And if he manages to make it to worlds and medal they'll probably say it was a fluke or the judges were biased.
Pretty much - if you want to get an idea of what they will say about Jason, you need only look at what people are saying about Liza. Including in her case that her jumps aren't that good - not really Even if Jason becomes World Champion, they won't stop. Even if he has a conistent season, they will say that they still don't consider him to be consistent - not really. And besides, now he's World Champion, he'll have an awful season after it, obviously. And he's no Artist, and shouldn't win thngs, if judges did their job properly, which they don't, being incompetent and/or corrupt. And so on, and so forth. (ETA - Minus the part about her being a loose, abandoned woman because she took a photo of herself in a swimsuit, and presumably, even if they did, they wouldn't actually go into his fan fest thread to do it.)
(Oh, and I feel terribly like an overage school-gossip, but apparently Liza thinks Jason is handsome.
)Anyway, congratulations to Jason on the quad - which I haven't seen, as it's on Instagram. However, I'm quite happy to take it on faith, as I never doubted. It was just a matter of time, but I knew he'd get it. (Yes, I enjoy saying "I told you so", but I'm far happier about what I was right about, so to speak.
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Don't for get "Home Field Advantage" coming up. And then they will move on to he does not point his toes/has bad lines... that attack always really makes me laugh as you can tell they are getting desperate for anything people might agree with. And the pony tail will be insulted as well. Then it will be to smile less/be more of a man...whatever the hell that means. Ohh and his programs are not *that* difficult, they are actually just basic moves really (done insanely well right on top of one another in and out of jumps...)
(Oh, and I feel terribly like an overage school-gossip, but apparently Liza thinks Jason is handsome.
The lady has good taste... and you are not the only one who saw that and smiled.
Anyway, congratulations to Jason on the quad - which I haven't seen, as it's on Instagram. However, I'm quite happy to take it on faith, as I never doubted. It was just a matter of time, but I knew he'd get it. (Yes, I enjoy saying "I told you so", but I'm far happier about what I was right about, so to speak.
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Try the alternate version to see if it works. Plus this one has a fun slidey bar you can mess with.
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I'm just happy that Jason is making progress on the quad. Now the next steps are to land it consistently and then in a program - along with doing everything else well.
I still think the men's competition at U.S. Nationals is anyone's game. I'm not even going to predict what till happen right now - and probably still won't in January.
I still think the men's competition at U.S. Nationals is anyone's game. I'm not even going to predict what till happen right now - and probably still won't in January.
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Seriously, that landing is fine. He's not landing completely backwards - but how many skaters do that on their quads? It's not 1/4 revolution short, so everything is good. But let them bicker, soon they'll be even unhappier with their Jason hate
And I still don't get why anyone could hate Jason, he's so adorable and nice! Some people are strangekarne said:
That's a sweet idea
What animal is Josh?
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So, true. And how could I forget homecooking?! 
Well, no fear - even if I did, they (darkly emphasising "they") won't!Oh, I'm glad.
Seriously, though, I had to fight the urge to run over here immediately and tell everyone about it. (I never did that kind of gossip when I was in school - hated it, in fact - so, of course, it has to break out in my middle age instead.) Thanks, but it did not work - there are roundabout ways for me to look at Instagram pictures that work, but not videos. My old computer cannot manage them, it seems. Oh, well. Someone may upload it on Youtube - or I can wait till he lands it and has it ratified in competition. It will be all the sweeter.
Jason is actually quite predictable, LOL.
Exhibit A = 2010-2011 season/2013-2014 season.
JGP/GP = In 2010 he won silver in one JGP then dropped to 6th in the other after having a bunch of URs (then valued at DG). In 2013, he won bronze in one GP and 5th in the other after struggling on his 3As.
Nationals = In 2011, he was 11th after the SP, but then did a clean FS that got the audience giving him a standing ovation. Forum folks wonder where this kid come from and why NBC didn't bother to show him. In 2014, he does a clean FS that got the audience giving him a standing ovation and people wondering where this kid came from.
General reception: Ah, he's a promising skater. What a great skate! Wooooooo.
Exhibit B = 2011-2012 season/2014-2015
JGP/GP/Nationals = 2011: Jason does pretty well,but with no 3A. He manges to win JGPF. People whine about him not having a 3A but still winning JGP medals BUt then falls 3 times at nationals. 2014: Jason manages silver at Skate America, sturggles at Cup of Russia, wins national despite UR 3A in FS.
Jr. Worlds/Worlds = Peaks at this event with clean programs. GEts at the podium at junior worlds in 2012 and get 4th at Worlds.
General reception: Despite solid results, long-winded conversation ensures whether he'll ever get the 3A or 4T and people predict that he has peaked because he dosen't have the technical content.
Exhibit C = 2012-2013 season/ 2015-2016
2012-2013: Struggles at JGP. Gets beat by junior upstart Boyang Jin in first JGP. People state this is the end and he doesn't make it to seniors. Tries out 3A in second JGP with mixed results. Reports that he gets the 3A in practice four days at JGPF Success with a ratified quad at JGPF in the SP but gets off the podium after waxeling in FS. Falls on his 3A in both programs at Nationals. Then peaks at Jr. Worlds wth 3 3A in two programs and wins the FS and the silver medal overall with a record junior men score.
2015-2016: So far: Is a hot mess at Glacier Falls, gets beat by Nathan Chen. All quads are <<. Everyone predicts doom. Jason pulls of 4T in practice a week before Senior B.
How it could go based on past season trajectory = At Ondrej Senior B next week, he'll get one UR and get DG on the other attempt. At Skate America, he'll get another one ratified, but will completely pop it in the SP, At Ice Challenge continues to struggle with it but will get at least one ratified. Has it down by NHK Trophy and peaks at Nationals and Worlds. (ha! That's how I'd like it to go obviously)
See, predictable.
Exhibit A = 2010-2011 season/2013-2014 season.
JGP/GP = In 2010 he won silver in one JGP then dropped to 6th in the other after having a bunch of URs (then valued at DG). In 2013, he won bronze in one GP and 5th in the other after struggling on his 3As.
Nationals = In 2011, he was 11th after the SP, but then did a clean FS that got the audience giving him a standing ovation. Forum folks wonder where this kid come from and why NBC didn't bother to show him. In 2014, he does a clean FS that got the audience giving him a standing ovation and people wondering where this kid came from.
General reception: Ah, he's a promising skater. What a great skate! Wooooooo.
Exhibit B = 2011-2012 season/2014-2015
JGP/GP/Nationals = 2011: Jason does pretty well,but with no 3A. He manges to win JGPF. People whine about him not having a 3A but still winning JGP medals BUt then falls 3 times at nationals. 2014: Jason manages silver at Skate America, sturggles at Cup of Russia, wins national despite UR 3A in FS.
Jr. Worlds/Worlds = Peaks at this event with clean programs. GEts at the podium at junior worlds in 2012 and get 4th at Worlds.
General reception: Despite solid results, long-winded conversation ensures whether he'll ever get the 3A or 4T and people predict that he has peaked because he dosen't have the technical content.
Exhibit C = 2012-2013 season/ 2015-2016
2012-2013: Struggles at JGP. Gets beat by junior upstart Boyang Jin in first JGP. People state this is the end and he doesn't make it to seniors. Tries out 3A in second JGP with mixed results. Reports that he gets the 3A in practice four days at JGPF Success with a ratified quad at JGPF in the SP but gets off the podium after waxeling in FS. Falls on his 3A in both programs at Nationals. Then peaks at Jr. Worlds wth 3 3A in two programs and wins the FS and the silver medal overall with a record junior men score.
2015-2016: So far: Is a hot mess at Glacier Falls, gets beat by Nathan Chen. All quads are <<. Everyone predicts doom. Jason pulls of 4T in practice a week before Senior B.
How it could go based on past season trajectory = At Ondrej Senior B next week, he'll get one UR and get DG on the other attempt. At Skate America, he'll get another one ratified, but will completely pop it in the SP, At Ice Challenge continues to struggle with it but will get at least one ratified. Has it down by NHK Trophy and peaks at Nationals and Worlds. (ha! That's how I'd like it to go obviously)
See, predictable.
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Mrs. P is awesome. 
I think his quad looks fine, and I'm looking forwards to seeing his FS again.
I think his quad looks fine, and I'm looking forwards to seeing his FS again.
I saw those comments and wasn't surprised since people on that forum are very catty and mean spirited.Somebody on FSU has already decided it's < and not clean. And I'm sure others will say the same. And others will say it's only once and it's not in competition. And if he lands it in competition they will still say he can't be competitive with Hanyu et al because he's only doing a 4T and they're doing multiple quads. And if he manages to make it to worlds and medal they'll probably say it was a fluke or the judges were biased.
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I'm hoping that somehow his mastery of the quad comes quicker and more consistently than the 3A did.
Probably not, but a fan can dream!
Could be, though - there are a few skaters who seem to have an easier time with quads than 3As. (For example: Lambiel, Patrick Chan)
Nathan Chen recently said the 3A is harder (for him, anyway) since it's more about technique and the quad is more about power... but I think every skater is different. But I know it is hard for a skater to add any new element, especially one as difficult and unpredictable as a quad, to their competitive programs, and I expect some growing pains this season... but it will be worth it in the end because I do think Jason had already gone as far as quad-less programs can take you in the current field.
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Thanks, but it did not work - there are roundabout ways for me to look at Instagram pictures that work, but not videos. My old computer cannot manage them, it seems. Oh, well. Someone may upload it on Youtube - or I can wait till he lands it and has it ratified in competition. It will be all the sweeter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgVSAyBj5RY
If no one else is going to do it.
