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Javier Fernandez

It's still completely mind-boggling to me that he prepared for competition in just three weeks. I mean, I knew that before, but I kind of thought he started training quads and all that on his own before coming to Canada. But according to Sandra, appearantly not in the slightest? This is just amazing.

(I'm not a figure skater obviously, so these are just my thoughts)
Javi was doing four numbers in ROI so he had to be in shape stamina-wise. He "just" wasn't doing the most difficult jumps. But he's been doing quads for 10 years so that must count for something. And he was doing a lighter version of MOLM in shows (not just ROI) and Malaguena was his program for two seasons. So I think that also helped. To feel comfortable with the programs...
And his approach: 1) his absolute confidence in Brian 2) his believe "when I do it once, I know I can do it" approach Sandra talked about 3) he really really wanted to win but hadn't he won it wouldn't be the end of the world for him (probably unlike the Olympics, where he wanted to podium so much).
This quote is from the NBC interview: "I could definitely have failed to win this seventh European title. You never know what may happen. But it was realistic. Had I not won, I had a back-up as well: I could have thought to myself that I came to this competition to retire, not to win. I’m glad I didn’t have to! (Smiling)"

Here is the link to the interview, it's very intersting https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2019/01/28/javier-fernandezs-last-bow-to-europe-and-the-world/

ETA: So given these reasons I think it was not impossible, but still so incredible. I was so worried about Javi and his results there.
 
Just wanted to make a statistic of the EC podiums during 2013-2019, how the other skaters fared during Javier´s domination:

2013 Fernandez/Amodio/Brezina
2014 Fernandez/Voronov/Menshov
2015 Fernandez/Kovtun/Voronov
2016 Fernandez/Bychenko/Kovtun
2017 Fernandez/Kovtun/Kolyada
2018 Fernandez/Aliev/Kolyada
2019 Fernandez/Samarin/Rizzo

It seems that Kovtun was on the podium 3 times = most consistent after Fernandez...
 
I am still trying to compose myself I cannot watch yet Javi's gala performance.
Hopefully tonight I get the courage to indulge.
 
Last week we kept discussing the relationship between his training time, the last competition and what he has been like before. In a strange way, everything was just like in the past 4 years, and yet it was a competition like no other ever before. He was training to do 6,5 minutes of programs in one competition and not to get in form to be at his best in the Worlds or some other long term aim. The knowledge that it was the last one must have both weighed him down and given him extra energy to make it through. I wonder also what would have happened if the SP result would have been better? He seemed to get so angry about it that (as I have said several times) his attitude and focus and sharpness were at another level after it.

Have used a couple of evenings to look up and dl all the videos and clips etc. of last week and the events in Spain. Before cleanup, almost 500. That will take some time to go through!

Posted my Javi Top 5 from the Euros in the competition section, but decided to put it here also:

1. Getting that 7th title
2. Prometo
3. Man of La Mancha
4. Malagueña
5. The angry practice on Friday afternoon after the somewhat frustrating result of the SP - he was good the whole week, but that was supersupersupersharp (must have sown a tiny seed of doubt to the minds of his rivals...)

Looking through all the media reminded me also of some "bubbling under" moments such as in the Tuesday morning practice when Marie-France Dubreuil came over to say hi and when Javi saw her, he went all flirtily smiley whilst on the ice - z_petra has a good series of pics on that moment. It was also the most relaxed Javi in practice all week. The buddy pic with Kevin Aymoz is another moment. When he climbed up the stands to hug his parents afterwards third. There were lots of great moments last week!

Also, completed Javi's final quadruple jump tally in international competitions: 162. He retired with the highest number in his name. Positive GOE 64,8%, 3 (!) UR calls (well, really just two because the one he got in the SP last week...). His success rate is at 87% of what could have been done if he had done every quad planned.

Shoma is second with 155 jumps and will probably overpass Javi after 4CC and Worlds. Positive GOE rate at 56,1%, 6 downgrades (so, in reality 149 quads) and 18 (!) UR calls. 92% completion rate.

Hanyu is third with 140 with the highest positive GOEs at 66,4%. He has 3 downgrades (effectively 137 quads) and 8 UR calls. 88% completion rate.

The others I did not bother to look up because everyone else is quite far away from these three.

Finally, I recommend reading this tribute to Javi's skating, parts 1 and 2.

E
 
Well, I meant to bring it here myself anyways, so here goes:

Out with an epic bang, winning a 7th consecutive gold medal - unprecedented and unsurpassable in modern figure skating - to become a living legend. And with a wave of the hand he is gone...

I guess I can say I was born a figure skating fan. I can't remember not watching it. I inherited the love for the sport from my parents, and then took it further, spending weeks poring over VHS tapes in order to learn about jumps, spins and lifts, rewatching my favorite programs so many times that I can still recall them in detail decades later. I realized pretty early on that as impressive and exhilarating I found the jumps, I was really captivated by the inspired performances - the beauty and harmony of movement, the expression of music through choreography, the authenticity of emotion - and found my favorite skaters among those who were able to seamlessly add the highest quality athletic side without ever letting it overpower the performance, and who kept growing and evolving constantly, able to surprise me from one year to the next.

I spent a good 20 years being an avid fan of the sport itself before Javi came along. I remember seeing him live for the first time, at his second Europeans back in 2008, raw and rough around the edges, landing jumps like a cat many others would have gone down from, with mediocre programs, but somehow charming. I was a fan by the time he showed up with his Pirates of the Caribbean program and the drunken Jack Sparrow step sequence a couple of years later, rooting for this Spanish boy burning up the ice with his charisma, still unrefined, but landing triple axels and quad toes and salchows like no one's business, not abandoning the character or performance style for a second. And then my mind was blown when he moved to Brian Orser and learned sophistication, lightness, fluidity, body posture. I can't remember any time when he didn't show up from one season to the next with more quality to his skating and more nuance to his performance, musicality oozing out of every cell in his body. He was my all time favorite by a long long way by the time Black Betty came along.

He has done rock, jazz, opera comedy, Sinatra, Chaplin, Presley, each with a distinct flavor. I could get goosebumps sitting in the 25th row of an arena because he invited the entire audience into the world he created so easily that I was sometimes taken aback by a jump he did out of absolutely nowhere, almost forgetting I was watching a competition with the highest stakes. As he was maturing with age and experience, he gradually crossed the boundaries of sport to evolve his skating into performance art. No one in figure skating will ever come close to the electrifying, breathtaking perfection of his flamenco, which got the audience buzzing and yelling with excitement before he even moved from his opening pose. His last competitive programs brought out the lyrical beauty from his skating with such softness, harmony, power and emotional authenticity that made my throat constrict the same way when I watch really good actors on stage. He took his Man of La Mancha on a climactic journey from dashing and glamorous to tenderly romantic to genuinely heroic, a man’s story condensed into just four minutes, when most others struggle to connect with their music at all.

And in the meantime, the precision, quality and speed of his skating has improved to such a level that his simplest edge exercises to warm up for a practice session were wonderful to behold. His quads out of his world with their power, length and height. His Ina Bauer into triple loop utter perfection. As he was doing his program runthroughs in Minsk, other skaters in his practice group stopped and just stood by the boards to watch. He has so much talent he was able to win despite being away from competition for almost a year and showing up with less than three weeks of training.

The truth is, Javi has become figure skating itself for me over the years. The greatest of all time. The heart and soul, as it says on that blue banner of ours. And now that he is gone, I simply can't believe that the figure skating world can just keep moving. It has stopped for me, as if those 20 years before Javi never existed.

:sad21::cry:
 
:luv17::love: tureis... I thought I was past the point of getting sniffly and teary, but apparently not. I saw (again) the series of pics by Joosep Martinsson this morning and it is difficult to get work done (again)...

I loved the TSL with Sandra, btw. Two things struck me particularly - loved the emphasis on realness and credibility of Javi's performances. He has lived fully, through good and bad times, he has real experience to base his performances on. Prometo is the most amazing example of this... When you compare even such stuff as Super Javi/Aerobics Clss from 2014 and 2018, you can see how he is more real in the latter, the exaggeration of 2014 is gone despite him still being over the top. What I would want to ask David and Brian is really when they realized that Javi can be a supreme lyrical skater and how did they get him to try it for real with Danny Boy.

Second thing is that she - albeit not having known Javi for very long - talked about how she really could not tell what makes him tick and that there is a mystery to him. He sees to be completely open about himself, but I agree with her, it is difficult to get what he really is. Over the years I have read and heard many things being said about him, and I think have been able to witness him growing up, changing. What we get to see are fleeting moments, usually filtered through journalists's and other people's interpretations, he shows his public persona which might be close to what he really is, but still probably there is at least a thin sheet of a protecting role there. There are things that everyone says about him, of course.

Sometimes I see things I really cannot agree with based on just having watched him for a long time. Like this photo in Twitter, claiming that the messy spot is Javi's. While it can be so, it does not make sense with the guy I have watched fold a T shirt just so (the UCAM presser where he and Carolina Marin were given the shirts at the beginning, he even corrected the folding a couple of times); the guy who unwraps a huge bag of gifts after the Euros in Ostrava on the floor of the hotel room and when he gets up, there is not a scrap of paper, yarn, plastic anywhere to be seen (the LaLigaSports backstage video); the guy who at practices blows his nose and religiously takes care that the tissue ends up in the trash... I can fully believe that he forgets his skates or parts of his costume to various places, but messy he ain't...

He was out last night with Sonia Lafuente and other people and had shaven the goatee, but not the mustache. A photo in her IG story. Not a good look even on Javi.

These fab summer pics I saw for the first time, but they are old, in fact. He is wearing the Miki ring and the necklace, so 2016 maybe? Lovely anyway!

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Eppen and Tureis, thanks so much for your wonderful material about Javi!!!

While thinking of his awesome career I keep wondering how did he manage to leave the competitive career without injuries??? Did he ever have to withdraw because of an injury? I don¨t remember it happening. So many skaters have had to leave the sport much earlier as their body could not do it anymore. Javi has been jumping quads for such a looong time... Is it his natural jumping technic, which has helped or what?
 
Eppen and Tureis, thanks so much for your wonderful material about Javi!!!

While thinking of his awesome career I keep wondering how did he manage to leave the competitive career without injuries??? Did he ever have to withdraw because of an injury? I don¨t remember it happening. So many skaters have had to leave the sport much earlier as their body could not do it anymore. Javi has been jumping quads for such a looong time... Is it his natural jumping technic, which has helped or what?

To me it seems he was quite economical with his resources, never overextending himself, instead keeping a steady pace. And some people are just built more sturdy than others and perhaps have a little luck in never spraining an ankle in some silly accident at home, etc etc.

What are his plans for the immediate and mid term future concerning skating?
 
:luv17::love: tureis... I thought I was past the point of getting sniffly and teary, but apparently not. I saw (again) the series of pics by Joosep Martinsson this morning and it is difficult to get work done (again)...

Oh those Joosep Martenson photos are gorgeous. Especially the Prometo ones which almost glow with the emotion and deep sincerity...

I'm always reminded with Javi - as I am with Yuzu and a couple a couple of others, just a couple because it is rare - of a lovely quote I read once about an favourite actress... "She had a heart. It photographed." So true of Javi, with that huge, generous heart (he was for me so much one of the driving forces, maybe the strongest, in the way the rivalry and among the top men in the last couple of years included such brotherly friendship and unstinting sportsmanship, and such a dearth of shade or backbiting. He set the tone). He's a very special man as well as a brilliant athlete. Okay, okay, and so good-looking, which leads to...

He was out last night with Sonia Lafuente and other people and had shaven the goatee, but not the mustache. A photo in her IG story. Not a good look even on Javi.

Eeep. Grow the goatee back, Fernandez :laugh:
 
In his senior career, he never had to WD from any competition because of injuries. He has had problems with his knees before some competitions based on his social media posts, but they were cleared before the competitions. Boston was the closest I know of where he might have withdrawn. In Ostrava he fell during the FS and had to cancel the gala because of the injury he got. That went away before Worlds. He did get some treatment for a hip/pelvis problem in the summer of 2016, some kind of inflammation IIRC. During the following season, he started to hold his left hand on his hip during programs, a completely unchoreographed move which he had never done before - and he still does it. We are wondering if there is some problem there. Sometimes he rubs his knees (esp. the right one) in practices, warm-ups etc. But nothing big apparently ever. So, probably well built to take the beating skaters have to endure?

Then there is the "economical with his resources" side - loved this expression! But let's be straight - he was described as lazy for years, although that has gone away since Sochi. But he does not do excessive numbers of the big jumps in practices, at least not during competitions. Apparently Hanyu was disappointed that he did not see Javi do massive numbers of quad sals when he first came to Toronto. The usual competition practice consists of a warm-up doing stroking excercises, getting ready to jump with wallies etc. Then he does the jumps he needs for that practice starting from easier ones and ending with the quads. Sometimes he throws in a 3Lo or 3T or 3S before doing other jumps. The 3F-Eu-3S combo went before 3Lz (when he still did a lutz), then Axels and last quads. The easier jumps he usually cleared in the first try, if there were mistakes, he repeated the jump. If the quads or the axels did not work, there were a couple of tries, 3 or so max. Then Brian made him do sth else before returning to the jumps. At that point, he quite commonly got it done. If the quads were ok in the first try, that was it, no more. RTs maybe without jumps or some parts on one day, another set the next etc. The only time I have seen him do sth like 10 quads in one practice was in Moscow last year when Brian had not yet arrived from Canada and he was on his own... Last season, the practices were almost scarily perfect (which did not always turn into great competitions, though).

What we know of this year is that he will do the Japanese leg of Stars On Ice in March, Fantasy on Ice in Japan in the summer and then Fire on Ice in November in Slovakia and Czech Republic. Then there will be Revolution on Ice in Spain with more than 5 cities planned. No info yet about what, where or when. He has also talked about summer camps, seminars in different parts of the world. I would expect him to have his own camp in Spain, maybe teach at Brian's Canadian camp in August, who knows what else. Then they are working on getting ROI abroad and doing a flamenco/Spanish culture based show going in Asia. Moving on from athletes life is not always easy, but his first semi-retirement year has been pretty good for Javi and he looks to be excited about his future plans.

LaLigaSports interviewd Brian in Minsk and it can be read here in Spanish(an English translation from Twitter).

Javi section from the new Hanyu documentary is also up with English subs.

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Sometimes I see things I really cannot agree with based on just having watched him for a long time. Like this photo in Twitter, claiming that the messy spot is Javi's.

Hint: just look at the colors of the skate guards. ;) As far as I can remember Javi has only ever used black ones.

One of the many things I loved about Sandra's comments was how she said Javi broke the rule. You're not supposed to skate like he had and win Europeans with just 3 weeks of training. I guess something similar applies to Javi's quads. Perhaps you're not supposed to be able to manage all these quads in competition without doing them to death in training. But Javi broke that rule too, which I am sure was an essential reason why he was able to compete for so long, through pains and injuries for sure, but not critical ones.
 
Well, I meant to bring it here myself anyways, so here goes: Out with an epic bang, winning a 7th consecutive gold medal - unprecedented and unsurpassable in modern figure skating - to become a living legend. And with a wave of the hand he is gone... I guess I can say I was born a figure skating fan. I can't remember not watching it. I inherited the love for the sport from my parents, and then took it further, spending weeks poring over VHS tapes in order to learn about jumps, spins and lifts, rewatching my favorite programs so many times that I can still recall them in detail decades later. I realized pretty early on that as impressive and exhilarating I found the jumps, I was really captivated by the inspired performances - the beauty and harmony of movement, the expression of music through choreography, the authenticity of emotion - and found my favorite skaters among those who were able to seamlessly add the highest quality athletic side without ever letting it overpower the performance, and who kept growing and evolving constantly, able to surprise me from one year to the next. I spent a good 20 years being an avid fan of the sport itself before Javi came along. I remember seeing him live for the first time, at his second Europeans back in 2008, raw and rough around the edges, landing jumps like a cat many others would have gone down from, with mediocre programs, but somehow charming. I was a fan by the time he showed up with his Pirates of the Caribbean program and the drunken Jack Sparrow step sequence a couple of years later, rooting for this Spanish boy burning up the ice with his charisma, still unrefined, but landing triple axels and quad toes and salchows like no one's business, not abandoning the character or performance style for a second. And then my mind was blown when he moved to Brian Orser and learned sophistication, lightness, fluidity, body posture. I can't remember any time when he didn't show up from one season to the next with more quality to his skating and more nuance to his performance, musicality oozing out of every cell in his body. He was my all time favorite by a long long way by the time Black Betty came along. He has done rock, jazz, opera comedy, Sinatra, Chaplin, Presley, each with a distinct flavor. I could get goosebumps sitting in the 25th row of an arena because he invited the entire audience into the world he created so easily that I was sometimes taken aback by a jump he did out of absolutely nowhere, almost forgetting I was watching a competition with the highest stakes. As he was maturing with age and experience, he gradually crossed the boundaries of sport to evolve his skating into performance art. No one in figure skating will ever come close to the electrifying, breathtaking perfection of his flamenco, which got the audience buzzing and yelling with excitement before he even moved from his opening pose. His last competitive programs brought out the lyrical beauty from his skating with such softness, harmony, power and emotional authenticity that made my throat constrict the same way when I watch really good actors on stage. He took his Man of La Mancha on a climactic journey from dashing and glamorous to tenderly romantic to genuinely heroic, a man’s story condensed into just four minutes, when most others struggle to connect with their music at all. And in the meantime, the precision, quality and speed of his skating has improved to such a level that his simplest edge exercises to warm up for a practice session were wonderful to behold. His quads out of his world with their power, length and height. His Ina Bauer into triple loop utter perfection. As he was doing his program runthroughs in Minsk, other skaters in his practice group stopped and just stood by the boards to watch. He has so much talent he was able to win despite being away from competition for almost a year and showing up with less than three weeks of training. The truth is, Javi has become figure skating itself for me over the years. The greatest of all time. The heart and soul, as it says on that blue banner of ours. And now that he is gone, I simply can't believe that the figure skating world can just keep moving. It has stopped for me, as if those 20 years before Javi never existed. :sad21::cry:
Hi, long time figure skating fan and long time GSF lurker here. I usually don't post on figure skating forums (too much drama) but your posting just moved me so much, as you put into words a feeling I guess a lot of us know so well. I used to closely follow a now retired skater (feels a hundred years ago) and when he ended his career I was so sad, as I thought there would never be another one whose skating would spark such joy and excitement for me. I even stopped watching figure skating for a couple of seasons. But then along came Javi and though I wouldn't have thought it possible, I once again fell in love with skating through his wonderful programs and heartfelt performances. So I guess what I want to say is, although there will never be another skater quite like Javi, please don't give up on figure skating as a whole just yet. In the end, it gets us back anyway - once a figure skating fan, always a figure skating fan. And I'm sure there are still a lot of sublime show performances by Javi to look forward to :)
 
Hint: just look at the colors of the skate guards. ;) As far as I can remember Javi has only ever used black ones.

Coz you can get weird about things... I used a good half an hour of of my life checking what color guards Javi has been using... (Easy enough because I have well-organized data set in all the billions of videos of Javi.) In the early years, red, red and yellow, red and white, around Morozov-Orser switch orangey red, sometimes red and blue, then predominantly black more recently. But never that kind combo of blue and maybe yellow or green? So, deffo not Javi's bag and things. :noshake:

And anyway he probably would have the roller carry-on with him (or a backbag, easier to use with a bike), not a bag like that (although it looks a bit like the bag(s) he has been using as a prop in Aerobics Class).

E, feeling more than just a little stalkery here... :slink:
 
I posted this on their fan thread, but I thought I might post here as well.

Posted by Aleksandra Boikova:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtIlAgABPzo/

Via Google translate:
I have never had any idols in figure skating, they were just my favorite figure skaters. Xavi is one of them
Yesterday I saw him live for the third time and, unfortunately, (at competitions) the final one. When my partner at the time of his hire said that 45 seconds remained until the end of his program, I burst into tears This was one of the best events for the entire European Championship.
Muchas gracias @javierfernandezskater


Posted by Dima Kozlovskii:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtIhrqKBLSP/

He wrote:
Thank you SuperJavi @javierfernandezskater for your career�� It was amazing������ You are one of the BEST skaters in history⭐
 
Hi, long time figure skating fan and long time GSF lurker here. I usually don't post on figure skating forums (too much drama) but your posting just moved me so much, as you put into words a feeling I guess a lot of us know so well. I used to closely follow a now retired skater (feels a hundred years ago) and when he ended his career I was so sad, as I thought there would never be another one whose skating would spark such joy and excitement for me. I even stopped watching figure skating for a couple of seasons. But then along came Javi and though I wouldn't have thought it possible, I once again fell in love with skating through his wonderful programs and heartfelt performances. So I guess what I want to say is, although there will never be another skater quite like Javi, please don't give up on figure skating as a whole just yet. In the end, it gets us back anyway - once a figure skating fan, always a figure skating fan. And I'm sure there are still a lot of sublime show performances by Javi to look forward to :)

Thank you so much for coming here to post! It really means a lot. :luv17:

I've had a couple of big favorites before Javi too and gone through that same phase you mentioned when for a while there wasn't that much enjoyment and enthusiasm after they had retired. I don't think I would ever turn my back completely on figure skating, and I'm sure there will be others whose skating I'll grow to appreciate and even love. But I do believe the kind of heavenly perfect match that Javi's skating was for me probably happens once in a lifetime, so the astronomical hole he is leaving behind will never disappear.

But in the end, I'm just so grateful I've had the privilege of watching him grow into this wonder of a skater over the 9 years I've been a fan, his performances and all the memories and experiences they've given making me so much richer as a person.
 
Well, I meant to bring it here myself anyways, so here goes:

Out with an epic bang, winning a 7th consecutive gold medal - unprecedented and unsurpassable in modern figure skating - to become a living legend. And with a wave of the hand he is gone...

I guess I can say I was born a figure skating fan. I can't remember not watching it. I inherited the love for the sport from my parents, and then took it further, spending weeks poring over VHS tapes in order to learn about jumps, spins and lifts, rewatching my favorite programs so many times that I can still recall them in detail decades later. I realized pretty early on that as impressive and exhilarating I found the jumps, I was really captivated by the inspired performances - the beauty and harmony of movement, the expression of music through choreography, the authenticity of emotion - and found my favorite skaters among those who were able to seamlessly add the highest quality athletic side without ever letting it overpower the performance, and who kept growing and evolving constantly, able to surprise me from one year to the next.

I spent a good 20 years being an avid fan of the sport itself before Javi came along. I remember seeing him live for the first time, at his second Europeans back in 2008, raw and rough around the edges, landing jumps like a cat many others would have gone down from, with mediocre programs, but somehow charming. I was a fan by the time he showed up with his Pirates of the Caribbean program and the drunken Jack Sparrow step sequence a couple of years later, rooting for this Spanish boy burning up the ice with his charisma, still unrefined, but landing triple axels and quad toes and salchows like no one's business, not abandoning the character or performance style for a second. And then my mind was blown when he moved to Brian Orser and learned sophistication, lightness, fluidity, body posture. I can't remember any time when he didn't show up from one season to the next with more quality to his skating and more nuance to his performance, musicality oozing out of every cell in his body. He was my all time favorite by a long long way by the time Black Betty came along.

He has done rock, jazz, opera comedy, Sinatra, Chaplin, Presley, each with a distinct flavor. I could get goosebumps sitting in the 25th row of an arena because he invited the entire audience into the world he created so easily that I was sometimes taken aback by a jump he did out of absolutely nowhere, almost forgetting I was watching a competition with the highest stakes. As he was maturing with age and experience, he gradually crossed the boundaries of sport to evolve his skating into performance art. No one in figure skating will ever come close to the electrifying, breathtaking perfection of his flamenco, which got the audience buzzing and yelling with excitement before he even moved from his opening pose. His last competitive programs brought out the lyrical beauty from his skating with such softness, harmony, power and emotional authenticity that made my throat constrict the same way when I watch really good actors on stage. He took his Man of La Mancha on a climactic journey from dashing and glamorous to tenderly romantic to genuinely heroic, a man’s story condensed into just four minutes, when most others struggle to connect with their music at all.

And in the meantime, the precision, quality and speed of his skating has improved to such a level that his simplest edge exercises to warm up for a practice session were wonderful to behold. His quads out of his world with their power, length and height. His Ina Bauer into triple loop utter perfection. As he was doing his program runthroughs in Minsk, other skaters in his practice group stopped and just stood by the boards to watch. He has so much talent he was able to win despite being away from competition for almost a year and showing up with less than three weeks of training.

The truth is, Javi has become figure skating itself for me over the years. The greatest of all time. The heart and soul, as it says on that blue banner of ours. And now that he is gone, I simply can't believe that the figure skating world can just keep moving. It has stopped for me, as if those 20 years before Javi never existed.

:sad21::cry:

I've had a couple of big favorites before Javi too and gone through that same phase you mentioned when for a while there wasn't that much enjoyment and enthusiasm after they had retired. I don't think I would ever turn my back completely on figure skating, and I'm sure there will be others whose skating I'll grow to appreciate and even love. But I do believe the kind of heavenly perfect match that Javi's skating was for me probably happens once in a lifetime, so the astronomical hole he is leaving behind will never disappear.

But in the end, I'm just so grateful I've had the privilege of watching him grow into this wonder of a skater over the 9 years I've been a fan, his performances and all the memories and experiences they've given making me so much richer as a person.

Thank you tureis for putting into words what Javi has meant for me as well. I've been trying to "explain" it since last year's europeans, but I could not do it as well and as beautifully as you did. The "astronomical hole he is leaving behind" is, "sadly", SO true and SO real... I feel it as well. Gosh, I fu**ing feel it. And I'm so "happy" other people feel it as well, not only Spanish, because it is a testament of his greatness and his impact in the figure skating world, and not only in Spain. Gosh, the hole, the hole... :cry:
 
It is the end of an era and there will never be another one like Javi :cry: But as tureis said, we must be grateful that we got to follow him through the years. And I'm glad that Javi got to finish his career at the top of his game as the champion he is, and didn't have to end it due to injury, etc.
 
Thank you to the international community for doing the English subs for this conversation with Diaz, Estefanel, Hurtado, Lafuente and Raya on Javi... Worth using 15 min of your life to this, if you are a Javi fan!

Fan art is sometimes a bit embarassing (and even the better ones very often leave me asking "who is this supposed to be?!"), but this person captured the otherwordly etherealness of Prometo into this watercolour. The stick figures were to the point, too.

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Thank you tureis for putting into words what Javi has meant for me as well. I've been trying to "explain" it since last year's europeans, but I could not do it as well and as beautifully as you did. The "astronomical hole he is leaving behind" is, "sadly", SO true and SO real... I feel it as well. Gosh, I fu**ing feel it. And I'm so "happy" other people feel it as well, not only Spanish, because it is a testament of his greatness and his impact in the figure skating world, and not only in Spain. Gosh, the hole, the hole... :cry:

Thank you so much!

Being from Spain, Javi may not have had the sort of built-in fan base a Russian or an American skater does, but it's also a huge part of the reason why he has such a universal appeal that far transcends nationalities. His is such a remarkable, against-all-odds story it's impossible not to root for him, and through him believe that greatness really can come from anywhere if one has a dream, and the courage and perseverance to pursue it.

And it was most evident at competitions just how universally loved Javi is. Seeing that was always one of the most memorable aspects of following him around the continent for me, and it has all culminated in Minsk. There were people from Spain of course, but the vast majority of those Spanish flags were from fans all over the world, ours included. I had the most remarkable, heartwarming, emotional roller coaster ride of a week meeting Javi fans from China, Austria, Russia, Norway, Hungary, Taiwan, France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Latvia, Slovakia, and of course Belarus.

The volunteers actually moving other banners around to make room for our Javi banners, repeatedly saying Javi is so wonderful his banners must have the best spots. The most amazing local girl coming up to us just to ask if she can help with the banners because she loves Javi. Then as it turned out she happened to sit right behind us the whole week and we talked, laughed, stressed and above all, cried together in our overwhelming combination of joy and sadness. People coming up to us to take photos of the banners every single time we carried them, giving thumbs up with a beaming smile, saying a few words in whatever language that always started with "Ahhhh Javi!" As I was taking the Miss you Javi banner down, the group of people who were sitting right behind the banner literally tore it out of my hands to take selfies with Javi's various photos, caressing his two-dimensional face. Not to mention the many Russians screaming in support for their own and then screaming twice as loud for Javi 10 seconds later. The ISU protocol being broken so that Javi could be introduced last during the free skate warmup. The arena being full for his victory ceremony. Nobody left until the end. I have never seen that before. Never. Javi's mama and papa having to stay behind well after the ceremony because so many people went up to them to hug them in congratulations. The complete silence that settled on the entire arena as he glided to the center of the ice for Prometo. And then all 15000 people rising from their seats at once to give him a standing ovation. The evening after the gala we went out for farewell dinner with some Javi fans and the TV started to show the gala after a while. It was on mute and people paid no attention, but as Javi started to skate, people turned their heads to watch. Two waitresses stopped and stood by the wall throughout the whole performance, the TV still on mute.

I hope he was able to take in as much of this love and admiration as possible. The power of it was utterly and completely overwhelming even as a fan.
 
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