Cat Fight!
Oh, boy! Cat fight between Peach and Rgirl over John Z and Jordan!
Well, Peach, I must say you got me beat for Jordan with your limberness and your hot tub. I've never had a hot tub, and though I was quite a bendy girl back in the day, no more. But I was always amazed at how few guys knew how to make the best use of bendiness. I've even been with bendy boys and it was never as much fun as guys who knew how to use their...well, I better stop there, except to say "Richard Francis Burton."

(And no, I'm not 140 years old, lol.) Go get him, Peach--in a year, natch.
As for John Z., if that's his porn collection, well, obviously gorgeous, but either not my type or needs a whole lotta teaching. Besides, he and Sylvia are armore molto bella! Peach, sounds like you already know him, so sorry guys, cat fight over before it began.
Here's what I thought of the QE JZ episode:
First of all, to have the money for that apartment and not at least get some advice from a decorator? Don't tell me that place didn't need serious help. It wasn't a garbage dump, but the times QE has had a married guy on, the apartment or house has always been clean or at worst cluttered. How about those white chairs with the lime green seats and fringe that John said he and Sylvia made?

I haven't seen crap like that since my mother went crazy antiquing things in the '60s. It was sweet that they tried to make things for the apartment themselves, but...
As others have mentioned, John is not known as a snappy or even decent dresser. Not that he or anybody has to be a fashion plate all the time, but wearing a track suit to take Sylvia out to dinner? Yeesh, not good, especially when you're that good-looking, and even more especially because they're such a gorgeous couple.
Favorite line: "Sweet home Alabama! You're a hottie!"
Favorite queen moments: Carson trying to squeeze into Sylvia's sequiney pink bikini top costume. Jai and Carson putting on Sylvia's make-up.
Favorite gay humor observation: Thom holding up the pink plug-in air fresheners and saying, "They're like very gay guns."
Favorite figure skating reference: Obviously, Carson as Tonya and Jai as Nancy doing Nancy getting her knee whacked.
Favorite newlywed moment: Finding the boring porn tape.
Favorite newlywed touring skaters moment: All the unopened wedding gifts.
Favorite double entendre: Carson about to put some of the ointment they found on John's arm, it suddenly squirting halfway across the room onto Ted, and Carson responding, "Oh, I'm sorry. I had no idea I was that close." ROFLMAOAPMP.
Favorite "awww" moment: The whole show from the time Sylvia came back home. Everything they said, everything they did, it was just one "aww" after another.
Best Big Finish Ever to a QE Show: John and Syliva having Wollman Rink all to themselves on that gorgeous night. It's like when Bambi falls in love and he starts scampering around. Those guys always get at least a little teary-eyed at the end of the show, but never this much.
Obviously I'm biased toward these skaters, but even factoring that out, I thought this was the funniest show they've ever done, the show with the most gorgeous people, and the show with the most genuinely sweet and tender moments. No wonder Sylvia felt like a princess! Plus it's not like either was doing anything wrong, there were just some things they tried and didn't get right (the apartment) and things they wanted to be better at (John wanting to express his love for Sylvia in all ways and fix those feet). BTW, if he keeps up those foot/leg massages and pedicures, not only better for Sylvia, but his feet will feel better and I think will reduce the risk of foot problems that could affect his skating. Number one in my ratings.
Joesitz said:
Living in NYC and quite familiar with the Gay scene, I do not believer that John needs any help from the Fab Five. I'm sure they would bow to those good looks and take advice from him
Joe
So Joe and others who agreed with the above quote, after seeing the show, what's your assessment? Do you think the Fab Five helped John better himself in terms of his stated goals? Do you think John will stick to the majority of the changes/resolutions? If so, which ones?
Rgirl