Kamila Valieva: Anti-doping Case and Follow-ups

[AlysaLiuStan]

Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case - USADA chief

The United States could prosecute the Russians involved in figure skater Kamila Valieva’s doping case under the American Rodchenkov Act, the head of the U.S. Anti Doping Agency (USADA), Travis Tygart, told Reuters on Friday.

www.reuters.com

Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case, USADA chief says​

The RADA bill was signed into U.S. law in 2020 and empowers American prosecutors to seek fines of up to $1 million and jail terms of up to 10 years, even for non-Americans, if actions have affected American athletes’ results.

 

[moonvine]

Yeah that actually is a very popular thing. Why I have absolutely no clue but it is. People don't have better things to do with their time? Like if I hated someone I would want to avoid their face or hearing things they say at all cost not actively follow them

Exactly, I only follow people I love and want to hear from.

 

[Magill]

Nah, Kami is beloved child in Russia, and no matter what actually happen next, putting blame on her will be last thing anyone in charge will do.

Zhenya Medvedeva was the beloved child of Russia and Eteri's second dautghter and we all know the rest ...

 

[plushyfan]

Ah, THIS is conspiracy. Ok, i guess.
And what about other replies in this thread?
Right now BASED ON FACTS there are ZERO evidence for DOPING (in a sense of using banned substance to improve results). Like we already see in other cases athlete can test positive without using banned substances (as subproduct of some other drug for example) and in such cases CAS usually go in athlete favor.

But here we already "established" as a fact that not only Kami use doping to improve her performance, but also that all other Russian skaters use it, and "actually" doping is the single and only reason of their performance. But of course all this is "FACTS" and not some weird conspiracy of QAnon-level.

I agree with you in general, but I believe IF the Eteri team used this doping that is because of a very different reason. Not to improve the peformance but to endure the sea of workouts, endure all-day exercises, and recover faster.

 

[dorispulaski]

The forum speculated in the US pairs thread about whether doping was involved in Jessica Calalang's case a lot.

There would have been more speculation if GS had not put a damper on gossip, since the reason C&J were not competing was not known at that time.

Frankly, no one but fans of US pairs would have seen much discussion, because we are talking about the second or third place pair in a country that struggles to be able to send 2 pairs to World's, and only cares about any skating much, except in Olympic years. Even in the US, pairs is the least favored discipline, so even American reporters were not much interested in why Calalang & Johnson did not go to Worlds.

Kamila Valieva is the skater projected to win the Olympics by almost everyone. I although I really don't follow the ladies much and never have, even I know it is worldwide the most popular discipline, and skating is one of the premier Olympic sports. Of course all Olympic sports reporters were interested in what was going on, so of course articles were written, and Valieva's identity leaked out, which should not have happened.

Unfortunately, she was the only minor in the team event, on a team which had earned a medal, so when it was revealed that info was not forthcoming about why the medal ceremony was delayed, and it was revealed the delay was because the case involved a minor, every reporter knew who it was.

IMO, anonymity is what every person accused should be given until their case is resolved. Like Calalang, later study might prove Valieva and her coaches did nothing wrong. But, unfortunately, because of Valieva's pre-eminence in her sport, it was impossible for her identity to be kept secret.

Her case does point out, though, that minors should not be competing with people who are not minors, as the rules are currently structured.

All competitors in every event should be playing under the same rules.

I don't care whether we define a person's age for majority in sport as younger than it is now, or whether we raise the age to compete in seniors to match the age of majority, or whether we make the rules for non minors to match the rules for minors.

Some way, the rules need to be the same for all.

 

[badknees]

Can the IOC suspend athletes? or WADA? Why do they have to rely on Russia's now lifted suspension?

 

[Mista Ekko]

The time difference between Beijing and Moscow is five hours. It's very possible that Kamila knew before she skated the FS. Especially considering her emotions after she skated. By then, the starting orders had been posted and it was too late to substitute her out. I wonder if RUSADA held up on suspension to allow her to compete?

I remember wondering why she looked like she's in anguish after that FS,
she has never had that response at the end of a skate before, So could be that.

 

[plushyfan]

The fact that all other Russian skaters competing in the team event were hiding in their hotel rooms on Wednesday tells the story... they obviously did not know which one of them was caught...

No, this is a malicious opinion without any basis.

 

[Jontor]

Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case - USADA chief

The United States could prosecute the Russians involved in figure skater Kamila Valieva’s doping case under the American Rodchenkov Act, the head of the U.S. Anti Doping Agency (USADA), Travis Tygart, told Reuters on Friday.

www.reuters.com

Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case, USADA chief says​

The RADA bill was signed into U.S. law in 2020 and empowers American prosecutors to seek fines of up to $1 million and jail terms of up to 10 years, even for non-Americans, if actions have affected American athletes’ results.

Well they can try. Surely American laws only work in America right? As far as I know, China is not part of the US.

 

[AlysaLiuStan]

Well they can try. Surely American laws only work in America right? As far as I know, China is not part of the US.

I think Eteri is American

 

[NaVi]

Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case - USADA chief

The United States could prosecute the Russians involved in figure skater Kamila Valieva’s doping case under the American Rodchenkov Act, the head of the U.S. Anti Doping Agency (USADA), Travis Tygart, told Reuters on Friday.

www.reuters.com

Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case, USADA chief says​

The RADA bill was signed into U.S. law in 2020 and empowers American prosecutors to seek fines of up to $1 million and jail terms of up to 10 years, even for non-Americans, if actions have affected American athletes’ results.

Does anyone know for a fact if Eteri is a US Citizen? If so she could be subpoenaed by Congress.

 

[moonkat]

I think Eteri is American

Dual-Citizenship is possible...

 

[Amei]

Does anyone know for a fact if Eteri is a US Citizen? If so she could be subpoenaed by Congress.

What a great use of the American tax dollar ...not

 

[Autumn Leaves]

Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case - USADA chief

The United States could prosecute the Russians involved in figure skater Kamila Valieva’s doping case under the American Rodchenkov Act, the head of the U.S. Anti Doping Agency (USADA), Travis Tygart, told Reuters on Friday.

www.reuters.com

Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case, USADA chief says​

The RADA bill was signed into U.S. law in 2020 and empowers American prosecutors to seek fines of up to $1 million and jail terms of up to 10 years, even for non-Americans, if actions have affected American athletes’ results.

That’s outrageous and it is not how international law works, is it? What would give them the right to persecute foreign citizens? A stupid law they have passed?

I can pass my own law that if my neighbour annoys me, he owes me his house, but it can never be enforced.

By all means, fine and jail Kamila, US, if you have no shame left. But that’s not going to make your mediocre skaters better or more successful.

 

[NaVi]

Dual-Citizenship is possible...

Both the US and Russia allow for dual citizenship.

 

[Imagine]

Does anyone know for a fact if Eteri is a US Citizen? If so she could be subpoenaed by Congress.

Congress? Lol, are you American? Congress doesn't care about Eteri or any of this. If I were Eteri, I'd be packing my Louis Vuitton bags and getting the heck out of Russia though. They're looking for a scapegoat, and Eteri is a frontrunner. Now they can finally get rid of the irritating lady who's had their women's skating program by the balls for years.

 

[bigsisjiejie]

Well they can try. Surely American laws only work in America right? As far as I know, China is not part of the US.

True. In a practical sense, it could make travel to or through the USA by complicit parties dicey, as they could be subject to arrest and prosecution. But this would be a difficult type of case to actually prosecute, IMO. This Act was really a Congressional grandstanding play, feel-good but pretty worthless.

 

[moonvine]

My prediction:

It will be mailed to them. They'll make sure the team medal situation isn't resolved before many of the participants have left.

No matter how this turns out, the ISU/IOC isn't going to deal with a medal ceremony where attention will be focused on who is (or is not) on the medal stand.

That's so sad. I wanted to see ALL the athletes - Russian, American and Japanese - have their moment in the sun.

 

[Tomadeur]

Hajo Seppelt said in the ARD (german broadcaster) that Filipp Shvetskiy the national team doctor of the russian figure skating team was previously involved in doping cases and that at trainingcamps of Team Tutberidze cans with pills containing vitamins were given.

That doens't mean anything yet, but apparently not only ITA/IOC and WADA are looking at the case but investigative journalists also.

I am really curious about the report from RUSADA as to why the provisional suspension was lifted.

 

[doreen95]

Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case - USADA chief

The United States could prosecute the Russians involved in figure skater Kamila Valieva’s doping case under the American Rodchenkov Act, the head of the U.S. Anti Doping Agency (USADA), Travis Tygart, told Reuters on Friday.

www.reuters.com

Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case, USADA chief says​

The RADA bill was signed into U.S. law in 2020 and empowers American prosecutors to seek fines of up to $1 million and jail terms of up to 10 years, even for non-Americans, if actions have affected American athletes’ results.

Russian citizens are not under the legal authority of the US... that's simply ridiculous