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mzheng said:
Kimmie won. OK. She skated her butt off. And delivered a clean 7 triple program. But her skating leave A LOT to be desired. If this type skating (unfinishsed, jorinish, awkward stroking, etc.) keeps winning. I'm done with amature FS competetion. Not going to waste time.

I agree...she brought it and deserved to win, yes, but I STILL found her rather blah...well, guess she's just not my type of skater. But she brought it when none of the favorites could so kudos to her. Since I'm not far from her hometown let's see how much hype she gets here now.
 
Looks like SC was about to go into pieces there. And after that interview with Peter, I think I actually feel for her now...
 
Well, you know what? Kimmie didn't expect to win. It's not like she beat out other great performances. All she did was what she has been trained to do up to this point. She skated her best and no one could beat her. If unpolished, but technically strong programs win in the future over well-skated, polished programs, then I will be discouraged, but I am not ready to be too upset yet.
 
Results

The results were right but that doesn't make me happy. Kimmie is a nice kid, but she is very juniorish, despite the seven triples and combos. Unfortunately, Fumie, who I love, didn't do well enough to beat her, so that's that. Sasha's competitve career is probably over. I don't see her continuing like this. I can't tell you how much I long for the return of Michelle Kwan, if that's even a possibility. I have never appreciated someone so much in my whole life.
 
Although Kimmie M deserved the win today I would like to know how she elevated her PCS by over 7 points in four days. I call that a miracle!!!!
 
Red Dog said:
Looks like SC was about to go into pieces there. And after that interview with Peter, I think I actually feel for her now...
Well RD, my heart went out to Sasha. Her eyes told the whole story. I think she really tried and I am not quite sure why she can't have good steady jumps. If she stays in skating I hope she gets help with the technical part of her skating. I don't think her skate was as bad as made out to be. I hope she doesn't quit skating but if she does I wish her well in whatever she does with the rest of her life.

Dee
 
Well on another thread a few days ago I wrote that my interest in FSing is waning because of junior skaters medaling at senior events with junior presentation and skewed PC scores and after watching the Ladies LP I feel that more so than before. Good for Kimmie as she's a nice kid and skated well but she bores the heck out of me. Happy for forever Fumie getting her first silver at the big show. Poor Sasha what will she do now? Two panels for each set of marks is the answer for make the scores more wed to reality. Oh well, there's always tennis.
 
Just read this post

"When will Sokolova be rewarded properly ?
She was wonderful. She should have been 2nd after the short. And now this when she should be first.
Meissner PCs are hugely inflated. She has still a junior style.
Cohen should be in front of Suguri.
What the heck have the judges in their eyes tonight ?"


I agree about Kimmies PCS but I think Elena has a horrible stroking style...It really isn't stroking and I thought she was way over marked!!!!!My favorite of the day was Kiira KORPI ! Love the just and the style!!!! She has a lot of great qualities in her skating!
 
Meissner's win reminds me of Sarah Hughes's OGM in 2002. She came out and laid down the gauntlet technically with 7 triples and two 3/3s. The more polished skaters simply didn't do enough to keep pace. I've thought for a long time that she had a killer competitive instinct and she showed it here. Hopefully she will be able to continue to improve, instead of going downhill as Sarah did.

Meissner does need more work in her overall presentation. She is mechanical on the choreography, so-so with the spirals and somtimes fails to hold her moves. Sasha, Fumie or even Rochette could beat Kimmie with less technical content as along as they skate clean and inspired with a good program. None were up to the task in this event, however. Meissner is the strongest COMPETITOR I have seen in quite some time. I thought her coming out party would be 2007, but she has started a year early.

I am a fan of Sasha but her performance in this event was awful. She looked like Arakawa in 2005 -- she just didn't want to be on the ice. Even her spirals were wobbly and the jumps were such a mess I don't know where to start. I can't get too worked up about Sokolova finishing 4th, however, because I never saw anything in her skating other than jumps and still don't. Her positions are awful and she skates with no musicality, no choregraphy and no speed. I agree that her stroking is terrible.
 
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Was Mao Asada too young to compete at worlds as well or did she not qualify from japan federation?

I don't know why I can't see this comp on tv prolly due to womens ncaa being on but I don't know if I'd want to watch it anyway. Kimmie winning is kind of disappointing just because she reminds me of a young MK and I'm just soo past teenyboppers bouncing around doing small jumps yet technically difficult ones. Maybe she'll mature into something great in the future but we'll see. Good for Kimmie. At least she has brought back US dominance to ladies skating.

I"m sooo disappointed for SC. I don't know why she can't do it when she needs to and it's just so sad considering that she's a really wonderful skater to watch. I hope she tries it for one or two more years even though I read somewhere she was thinking of hanging it up to do stage or something.

Fumie. Nice resurgence winning the silver.
 
I feel bad for Sasha but at the same time, you really start to believe that it's something mental that she just will not overcome. Not to underscore Kimmie's performance but honestly, other than the techincal, it was not a performance that most of us will remember forever. It was indeed the best performance of the night by far and she deserved to win. Like many others are expressing, this world championships was kind of a big bore as far as the Ladies are concerned. Sasha had this given to her in her hands. All she had to do was stay on her feet and down to the last jump, she couldn't do that. I'm also tired of seeing that not too many skaters are taking to opportunity to beat out a bad Sasha performance. In my opinion, that kind of performance should not have been on the podium but with all the others cracking as much as Sasha, it was what it was. Honestly, I'm happy with the result and I don't see Sasha continuing. As I've always believed, karma is a ***** and now Sasha is no longer the new face of figure skating. It's only going to get harder from here if she decides to stay since next year a few promising ladies are moving into the senior ranks, skaters like meier, korpi, sokolova, leung, rochette, and the other Americans continue to do well. Not to mention, I really hope Michelle is back, if jsut for one more season.
 
We can't have it both ways. Either we accept that 7 well executed triples will win, or we go back to the subjectivism and corruption of the old system...no thanks. I have said on several occasions that Kimmie is robotic...BUT...she is only 16..she loves skating..and in a couple of years when some maturity sneaks in..she may be one of the best ever. Remember MK at 15? How about Irina? MK had those awkward little legs and Irina had all the polish of a milkmaid. When these young girls look back and see just how many points Sasha gets for her style components...that may change the way they train. At least one can hope.
 
Question: Is Kimmie wearing a watch on the ice? I just kept trying to figure it out! There was a band on each wrist -so perhaps it was part of the costume, but it looked like a watch to me! (My husband said she had to do something to look older!)

I was surprised to see the result and not so thrilled. Sasha and Fumie have the goods to beat the younger jumping beans- but not tonight. It was a fair win. Kimmie put the cleanest package out there technically. Like everyone else, I think she is a nice girl. She doesn't bug me like Tara did. I just wanted her to mature a bit before she reached the top of the podium. I do feel for Sasha. I think this was her best chance at a World gold. However, I have been wrong many times.
 
I wish she would lose the watch while on the ice. I think it looks nurseish or something. Maybe it's a superstitious thing.
 
76olympics said:
Question: Is Kimmie wearing a watch on the ice? I just kept trying to figure it out! There was a band on each wrist -so perhaps it was part of the costume, but it looked like a watch to me! (My husband said she had to do something to look older!)
I think they are two gold bracelets, part of her costume (she's the Queen of Sheba).

http://www.usfsa.org/content/events/200506/worlds/action/meissner-fs.jpg

I think your husband is right. This whole Lori Nichol program (not to mention her make-up) is supposed to make her look older. Like when Lori did Michelle's Salome program when Michelle was 16.

BTW, did you notice that both the gold and the silver medal programs were by Lori? :rock:

MM :)
 
yelyoh said:
Well on another thread a few days ago I wrote that my interest in FSing is waning because of junior skaters medaling at senior events with junior presentation and skewed PC scores and after watching the Ladies LP I feel that more so than before.
Well, imo, it started with 'No Edges' Tara doing her bubble gum routine. The fuss that was made over her being only 15 when she skated like a 12 y.o.

In Kimmie's case, she is doing her best and not giggling all over her programs. There is time for maturity and together with Mao they will fight it out.

Sasha's worst enemy is Sasha. She is (was) the best skater in the contest. She lost and I blame her mind more than her skating. JMO

Joe
 
Lucy25 said:
Well, you know what? Kimmie didn't expect to win. It's not like she beat out other great performances. All she did was what she has been trained to do up to this point. She skated her best and no one could beat her. If unpolished, but technically strong programs win in the future over well-skated, polished programs, then I will be discouraged, but I am not ready to be too upset yet.
Well put. Kimmie may not have it all together just yet, but no one else brought it. All Kimmie did was her best, and no one else could match her. The fact that she already has good solid basic skating skills should "stand her in good stead" to quote Uncle Dick, and I think her presentation will improve. I also think that the confidence from winning here is goingto do a lot of good for her skating.
 
She is (was) the best skater in the contest.

Apparently not. To be the best you have to perform the best. Only Kimmie did that. This worlds was a true snoozer...the ONE skater that brought it to the table was the boring one!!
 
Red Dog said:
Apparently not. To be the best you have to perform the best. Only Kimmie did that. This worlds was a true snoozer...the ONE skater that brought it to the table was the boring one!!

You call two 3/3's and a 2/2/2 boring? A perfect, clean, 7 triple performance boring? I'd take that over a head case that can't skate clean. :rock:
 
I am now done repeatedly banging my head against the wall. She said "she didn't have anymore tears left to cry." that's sooo sad....

Hey Sasha, what doesn't kill you will only make you stronger.
Don't worry its only figure skating. I mean really you don't win competitions that involve skating on frozen water with pieces of medal strapped to your feet. (I wonder who actually ever came up with such a crazy concept anyway). Go take a nice little trip to Marguiritaville...you're 21.
Most kids at 21 are...lets just say the hallway of my dorm smells a little ? right now and I think I just got a little high walking to the bathroom.
 
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