Ladies SP

[Joesitz (RIP)]

Here is the ISU layout of the Ladies SP:

http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpjpn08/SEG003.HTM

I really didn't expect Ashley to do so well. Must see the On Demand.

Kind of weird to see her Tech Scores higher than Mao. Did Mao leave out a few things?

 

[hazey]

I can only find Asada's sp vid now, so can't comment on others yet - but wow, Asada "floats" over the ice more than last season and her spread eagle-to-2A plus the way she comes out of the jump is . I don't like her hesitation before the 3lz though. But I'm just kind of stunned, because she doesn't seem to be skating, more like flying? The speed was amazing. Spins can improve, as usual. Can't wait for the other ladies' vids to be up. =) Thanks everyone who contributed to the pbp!

 

[propronia]

protocols
http://web.icenetwork.com/documents/2008/11/28/56636/1/gpjpn08_Ladies_SP_Scores.pdf

Asada's lutz is called "true" this time (+0.6 GOE). Downgrading of the 3F-3Lo could be a little strict but it's a great achievment. Go for 200 tomorrow!

 

[cosmos]

protocols
http://web.icenetwork.com/documents/2008/11/28/56636/1/gpjpn08_Ladies_SP_Scores.pdf

Asada's lutz is called "true" this time (+0.6 GOE). Downgrading of the 3F-3Lo could be a little strict but it's a great achievment. Go for 200 tomorrow!

Can't believe it!! It was a flutz. Too generous

 

[Okami]

Kind of weird to see her Tech Scores higher than Mao. Did Mao leave out a few things?

I suspect Mao had her loop downgraded and her spiral sequence probably received level 1.Her score is about the same as at Worlds, where she appeared to be skating flawlessly, but low levels kept her TES low.

ETA: And it turns out I was right. Thank you, proponia, for the link.

I just downloaded a HQ video, and while 3-3 was definitely underrotated (I think she waited just a bit too long before taking off), the height on her flip and her lutz were fantastic!

She looked a bit tired and her non-jump elements looked a bit weaker than usual (I think she worked really hard on her jumps and might be a bit overtrained), but I'm totally impressed with her skating skills and floating quality.

But I'm just kind of stunned, because she doesn't seem to be skating, more like flying? The speed was amazing.

Totally!

 

[Bennett]

thank you for the link to the protocol! i really appreciate it

 

[frozenhell]

Just watched Mao's sp on youtube. Well, I guess ISU just opened hellgate. Mao didn't even recieve ! and Wagner recieved only ! when she doesn't even try to make it look like a lutz. I wonder how many Mao clips will bombard youtube within next 24 hours.

 

[Yogudin]

You misunderstood her comment. She did not mention TSS. She said that she evaluated today's performance at 70 points out of 100 points.

I am so sorry for that I misunderstood Mao's comments. I had deleted my comment!

 

[cosmos]

Just watched Mao's sp on youtube. Well, I guess ISU just opened hellgate. Mao didn't even recieve ! and Wagner recieved only ! when she doesn't even try to make it look like a lutz. I wonder how many Mao clips will bombard youtube within next 24 hours.

ITA.

Sorry, I posted Mao's flip capture. I was confused.

 

[MissIzzy]

Just watched Mao's sp on youtube. Well, I guess ISU just opened hellgate. Mao didn't even recieve ! and Wagner recieved only ! when she doesn't even try to make it look like a lutz. I wonder how many Mao clips will bombard youtube within next 24 hours.

It's NHK, what do you expect? They probably were lenient on Ashley to make it look less suspicious.

 

[frozenhell]

ITA. I wouldn't upload a clip on yputube. But, this is a capture somebody did.
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2328/11824577/21010510/345019878.jpg

I don't know whether Mao is attempting lutz or flip in this picture, so I won't make conclusion from this picture but when I wathced Mao's sp, I had no doubt that she would get ! for her lutz, so I was really suprised. ! for wagner makes even less sense. I couldn't see her sp yet but at COC she didn't even try to make it look like an outside edge, so I don't know how she managed to escape that dreaded e in just 3 weeks.

 

[Bennett]

It's NHK, what do you expect? They probably were lenient on Ashley to make it look less suspicious.

I do not think that we need to develop a conspiracy theory. I do not think that they have any reason to think up such a sly ruse.

 

[Okami]

It's NHK, what do you expect? They probably were lenient on Ashley to make it look less suspicious.

Or maybe Ashley actually improved. Stranger things have happened. At TEB Mao's Lutz was a bit worse, and it received "!". Here it was visibly better.

 

[LKR722]

Ashley's program was beautiful!! I hope she can skate a good long program.

 

[Love_Skate]

ITA.
Sorry, I posted Mao's flip capture. I was confused.

Yes, as you corrected, the capture above is a flip in her 3F-3L.

Here is the capture of her flutz posted in another thread. It deserves !.
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.p...3c335f58db343a

We can judge with our eyes, but we know it will make us more and more frustrated with the inconsistent tech panel and the current judging systems.

 

[cosmos]

I don't know whether Mao is attempting lutz or flip in this picture, so I won't make conclusion from this picture but when I wathced Mao's sp, I had no doubt that she would get ! for her lutz, so I was really suprised. ! for wagner makes even less sense. I couldn't see her sp yet but at COC she didn't even try to make it look like an outside edge, so I don't know how she managed to escape that dreaded e in just 3 weeks.

You're right. It was flip. I was confused. Really sorry.

 

[fourclover]

Haven't posted in ages. I'm SOOOOO excited for Ashley Wagner. I knew it! I saw how she was different from Rachel or Caroline or Mirai (all those baby ballerinas) who can't really express the music like Ashley does. I LOOOOOOVE Ashley's SP music ('Somewhere in Time'). I dare to predict that Ashley will medal in Vancouver Olympics.

I like Yu-na too but I think she really really needs to lose weight to get her edge back. Yu-na has a small frame and what would normally look 'fit' to someone with a medium build with wider hips looks a bit heavy on Yu-na. I like her LP although I thought I'd hate it because of the music Scheherazade.

I was shocked to see Mao skate at TEB with all the mistakes in both SP and LP but kinda expected she'd pull herself together at NHK. I saw some people complaining about Mao's LP music Masquerade. I love that music and her costume! TT knows what she's doing...

But Ashley! Sooo excited for her. I love her skating style - really smooth transitions, really flows at the same time very powerful and spunky. Ashley and Yu-na are the only ones who really skates with the music. She's going to be one of the top skaters very soon. She IS a top skater already. I was getting bored of Yu-na and Mao being the only top levels skaters out there. Ashley will challenge them both artistically as well as technically. I wish skaters like Miki Ando who has zero artistry would go away.

 

[flying camel]

Wow, I could not believe the results. I'm so happy Ashley skated great. She must have been so happy in the Kiss & Cry. I hope she skates a great LP.

 

[HCOSurfer]

Ashley

 

[Tonichelle]

So very proud of Ashley! She made me sit up and take notice in 2005 when she was a novice, and she hasn't disappointed me yet!