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Looking for Advice before Rainbo Appt.

s_jung

Spectator
Joined
Aug 18, 2023
Hello,
I posted a few months ago about several issues I was experiencing with my skates and my feet. At that time I was told to go to Rainbo and skip the skates (Freestyles) that were ordered in for me at another shop. Unfortunately, I felt obligated to take them and had limited money. As expected, these skates have caused me more issues. I am hoping for some advice about some skates that may be better for my feet. I have been told, here, that the techs at Rainbo are knowledgeable and I will take their advice. I have an appointment to get fitted there this upcoming Saturday. However, I would like to have some sort of idea on what may be good for me so I am better prepared. I am also seeing a podiatrist Oct. 2 (in addition to treatment over the years for some of the feet issues). I am not sure whether I should postpone the fitting until I see the podiatrist, or order skates and bring them to the podiatrist later if I end up needing custom orthotics. I do not think the podiatrist is a sports specialist.
I am also going to PT to improve leg, knee, and ankle strength. I have a coach now, but he suggested that I go to a soft boot because my feet are too sore and swollen to do the skills I used to be able to do with other skates (crossovers, spiral, some spins, etc) due to escalating pain. I do not think this "soft boot" is good advice in light of my situation and stature. But maybe I am wrong on that.
I am hoping it is okay to proceed with the fitting on Saturday before I see the podiatrist? If so, here is my info:
Stats: I am an adult, 5'7" and 150lbs. The shape of my feet are greek and I never wear high heels because they are too painful for the ball of my feet. I have broken down arches and have rolled my right ankle many times. I have a bad pronation problem. I have a size 9 street shoe and my skates are an 8.
Things I hate about the Freestyles: 1) overly aggressive padding where my achilles attaches to my heel makes getting a decent ankle lock near impossible. I also seem to lose the lock when I walk to the rink. 2) When skating forward, I feel like I am on the rocker and am very unstable due to seesawing action. My coach thinks this too high of a heel for me and I agree. I would really like a lower cut boot but it may be just this heel height issue. 3) There is way too much room on top of my toe box. The front halves of my feet completely lift when doing a dip so I am on my heels. 4) My skates feel too narrow on the ball of my feet and I get numbness, tingling, burning, and swelling in the front half of my feet. 5) The skates feel too big, despite being told by two different fitters that I am this size in Jacksons. 6) The blades feel huge.
I have tried multiple inserts and DIY wedge and insert combos and nothing has helped for more than 20 minutes.
After researching skates, I thought that Riedell or Risport might be decent options. Ideally, I can find something somewhat reasonable for my feet while I build up more strength, but there does not seem to be a lot of mid-level skate options. Thank you for any help.
 

Ic3Rabbit

Former Elite, now Pro. ⛸️
Record Breaker
Joined
Jan 9, 2017
Country
Olympics
Hi again!
I would look into Risport RF3 Pro or Royal Pro. You could also look at a rapid custom (synergy elite) Jackson boot, that way they would be made more for your foot needs and you would have the more narrow heel to keep you locked in, but the front of the boot could be made a little wider to deal with this issue. Many of us need a larger/wider toebox than heel.
I would not look at Riedell or Edea for your feet, they will be too narrow. A Graf boot could possibly fit, and I can suggest those if you are interested.

As far as what you coach said: NO do not do that! You need the stiffness of the boot to keep your feet from getting worse, and I have been told this by Top Sport Orthopedists and Podiatrists (I've had my share of injuries over my career lol). Anyway, many coaches (especially ones at lower level of coaching are not good with suggesting boots and such for their students, and also if they don't have experience with it as a skater themselves and/or if they did not compete at an advanced level they probably also do not have experience/understand).

If there are any other questions you have, just ask.

Good luck! :)
 

Coach Aimee

PSA Ranked
Rinkside
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Jul 3, 2016
I have an appointment to get fitted there this upcoming Saturday. However, I would like to have some sort of idea on what may be good for me so I am better prepared. I am also seeing a podiatrist Oct. 2 (in addition to treatment over the years for some of the feet issues). I am not sure whether I should postpone the fitting until I see the podiatrist, or order skates and bring them to the podiatrist later if I end up needing custom orthotics. I do not think the podiatrist is a sports specialist.
I would wait until after you see the podiatrist as sometimes custom orthotics require a different size skate to accommodate them.
 

MCsAngel2

On the Ice
Joined
Apr 10, 2019
I'm going to disagree a bit with Ic3Rabbit here. Part of your problem is the Jacksons are too high a volume boot for your foot, and for all the things that they can do with customs or semi customs, reducing the boot volume has never been something I've heard of. I don't think they can do it.

Riedell has low volume boots AND they have (I think) the lowest heel height of any of the boot makers. HOWEVER, it sounds like you have a width disparity between the ball and the heel beyond the average, and I think you would need to get a custom boot. I would just make sure you clearly tell Rainbo about this and that you need to be certain that they measure both the ball and the heel for width.

Disclaimer, I have zero experience with Risport so I cannot offer any opinions on that.
 

Ic3Rabbit

Former Elite, now Pro. ⛸️
Record Breaker
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Country
Olympics
^That is the reason why Risport was suggested as first choice. Riedell stock on the other hand is going to be too narrow for her foot needs. As far as Jackson, a custom/semi-custom could be done that allows for lower volume as well as shorter heel, different soles etc. (And I say semi-custom b/c Jackson does have multiple levels of custom available to them now for skaters needs).

Of course, a full custom would be best but I hesistate to suggest that at this point since they aren't cheap.
 

Minz

It's not over till it's over
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Nov 13, 2020
Country
United-States
Of course, a full custom would be best but I hesistate to suggest that at this point since they aren't cheap.
Also, from what I understand, several brands have several-month wait times on custom boots.
 

s_jung

Spectator
Joined
Aug 18, 2023
Hi again!
I would look into Risport RF3 Pro or Royal Pro. You could also look at a rapid custom (synergy elite) Jackson boot, that way they would be made more for your foot needs and you would have the more narrow heel to keep you locked in, but the front of the boot could be made a little wider to deal with this issue. Many of us need a larger/wider toebox than heel.
I would not look at Riedell or Edea for your feet, they will be too narrow. A Graf boot could possibly fit, and I can suggest those if you are interested.

As far as what you coach said: NO do not do that! You need the stiffness of the boot to keep your feet from getting worse, and I have been told this by Top Sport Orthopedists and Podiatrists (I've had my share of injuries over my career lol). Anyway, many coaches (especially ones at lower level of coaching are not good with suggesting boots and such for their students, and also if they don't have experience with it as a skater themselves and/or if they did not compete at an advanced level they probably also do not have experience/understand).

If there are any other questions you have, just ask.

Good luck! :)
Thank you Ic3Rabbit! I will definitely look into the Risports you mentioned. Yeah, I did think it was very strange that my coach suggested soft skates. Especially since they are a high level coach!
 

s_jung

Spectator
Joined
Aug 18, 2023
I would wait until after you see the podiatrist as sometimes custom orthotics require a different size skate to accommodate them.
Thanks Coach Aimee. I probably will not commit to anything at Rainbo until I can verify with both the podiatrist and the fitter that the ones I choose are the most appropriate considering the input from the other.
 

s_jung

Spectator
Joined
Aug 18, 2023
I'm going to disagree a bit with Ic3Rabbit here. Part of your problem is the Jacksons are too high a volume boot for your foot, and for all the things that they can do with customs or semi customs, reducing the boot volume has never been something I've heard of. I don't think they can do it.

Riedell has low volume boots AND they have (I think) the lowest heel height of any of the boot makers. HOWEVER, it sounds like you have a width disparity between the ball and the heel beyond the average, and I think you would need to get a custom boot. I would just make sure you clearly tell Rainbo about this and that you need to be certain that they measure both the ball and the heel for width.

Disclaimer, I have zero experience with Risport so I cannot offer any opinions on that.
MCsAngel2, I appreciate your suggestions. I hope I do not need a custom boot, but I have so many foot issues that I may not be able to avoid it. Also, I've never had my heel width measured, just length and width of the ball of the foot. So, that may have contributed to some of my issues with the Freestyles!
 
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