Meissner apparently feels "no pressure"
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I don't seriously think emily will be any where near a medal. I don't even see her in the top 6 unless there are mistakes.
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NO evidence whatsoever, except for the perfectly rotated, perfectly landed one she performed in the warm-up at 2005 Nationals.
But, go on...
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Crumbling maybe not, but Kimmie made some major mistakes on important jumps...It was a little more than just a hand down..
Nobody has said that Mao hasn't make mistakes/or Yu-Na hasn't made mistakes. But Mao has been very consistent in the short program, as has Yu-na and Miki Ando. In contrast, Meissner has had only one clean short this season, at Nationals. And that included a very questionably ratified triple/triple jump which I suspect wouldn't be ratified in Tokyo. Her long programs have included misakes too.
Of all the top ladies, Yu-Na Kim has been the most consistent. And she is apparently, landing her triple/triples in practice, and some say even triple loops. Basically, I think that in order to beat Yu-na, Kimmie is going to have to skate a lot better than she's skated this season. Because you can guarantee that Yu-Na will put out there at least a 5 triple program, like she's done all season. If not even more, if her loop is really getting stronger.
Personally, I think its not that one can't get away with mistakes its how many mistakes. And Kimmie's best perfromances this season wouldn't beat Yu-Na's average preformances.
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I personally witnessed Michelle Kwan land a beautiful 3Lutz/3Loop combination during practice for the exhibitions at Skate America one year ~ didn't mean a thing if she didn't land it outside of practice. People also witnessed her performing a perfect, beautiful 3Sal/3Loop (maybe toe loop, I don't remember) during warm-ups at Worlds ~ didn't mean a thing if she didn't land it during competition. For that matter, Tara Lipinski witnessed her landing a 3Loop/3Loop during a practice before a competition (and was very verbal about her displeasure that MK would attempt "her combo") ~ didn't mean a thing if she didn't land it in competition.
Kimmie landed a very iffy 3A two years ago and hasn't landed one since, except for practice and warm-ups. Doesn't mean a thing if she doesn't land them in competition.
I'm trying to find things about Kimmie's skating to like, but all this hype about one "landed" 3A surrounding her skating doesn't impress me. She needs to start attempting it every time she competes if she's going to use it in her PR and if her coach is going to continue to proclaim to all that Kimmie is upping the ante. If not, then she should forget about it and work on other areas of her skating. From what I've seen of Kimmie, she seems like a very likeable young lady and I appreciate her down-to-earth attitude, but her skating leaves something to be desired for my own personal taste.
JHMO. Back to lurkdom.
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Aw, don't go back to lurkdom.
I agree re Kimmie in general, as well as that she needs to put the 3A in her programs, like Mao, if she's going to keep talking about it. But it means SOMETHING that she's landing it in practice. Not sure what. Certainly that she has the technique. Maybe that she can't do it while also thinking about artistry and packing in the points and doesn't think it's makes sense, pointswise, to dumb down her program for that one jump.
I guess the point is that it's not just about the 3A but a generally high-points program that ALSO has a 3A.
I agree re Kimmie in general, as well as that she needs to put the 3A in her programs, like Mao, if she's going to keep talking about it. But it means SOMETHING that she's landing it in practice. Not sure what. Certainly that she has the technique. Maybe that she can't do it while also thinking about artistry and packing in the points and doesn't think it's makes sense, pointswise, to dumb down her program for that one jump.
I guess the point is that it's not just about the 3A but a generally high-points program that ALSO has a 3A.
Not sure I agree. It threw her off at TEB. I really don't think she absolutely NEEDS it...only put it in if you are CONFIDENT that you will land it. In Kim's case, probably better to just do her best and get on that world podium. People expect a lot more out of her now that she's the reigning champion, and she wants to shift the pressure to her rivals. She should remember that it works both ways- if THEY skate first and throw down the gauntlet the pressure could suddenly be on HER to deliver (like Czisny at Nationals- where did THAT performance come from???). She's playing with fire here 
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me either, but remember, she's a Hughes
right. i would say that she should aim towards top ten, but for some reason beyond me she is the judges pet and will prbably wind up more like top six.
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Please stop calling her Kim (at least during Worlds)! It's too confusing!
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me either, but remember, she's a Hughes
I hate when people say "She's a Hughes" I think that she has a lot of potential and is very talented
Please stop calling her Kim (at least during Worlds)! It's too confusing!
whoops...haha, it's a habit of mine...much quicker than typing "Kimmie" or "Meissner"...maybe I'll just use KM 
I didn't mean it in a derogatory way...it was supposed to be a joke because, you know, people counted Sarah out and look what happened. Just saying Emily could do the same
don't think it's likely though
Look, I"m not saying that I hold her free skate against her. It was her first ISU championship and the second one she did "win!" BUT, I was just pointing out to say that in that instance its not necessarily true that Kimmie "always steps up) because she has made mistakes in major competitions before (like this nationals/last years nationals etc) It's too soon to say that Kimmie is a pressure skater. Although I do think she is a good competitor.
As for the triple axel, she's landed it in practice, but I think the real question is what's the ratio: 1 out of 3 attempts 2/out of 3 attempts etc? If Kimmie cannot land it consistently in practice ,than she really shouldn't try it (unless she just learned that Mao hit everything/and or Yu-Na skated lights out/Miki hit quad.)
Mao Asada herself has shown that the triple axel is great when landed not great when not landed...And Mao's triple axel has always been more consistent than Kimmie's.
I second that. Since she's judges pet, I predict she will place better than how she'll actually skate. A top 6 finisher is within her reach.
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There's now a pic up of her practicing on LI on Sat. (while stuck due to weather) - she looks out of shape. I don't think she'll do that well this year - the field is too deep. Maybe it's just a bad photo (like Buttle's), lol.
