Men's LP...play-by-play coverage/comments
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How many jumps are you allowed to repeat? Takahashi did two lutz, two triple toeloops and two triple axels, but since on of the toeloops was in a combination, shouldn't the lutz count then? or have I've gotten the system completely wrong.
Well, hope he can come back and do a great job next year since we won't be seing him in the worlds.
And congratulations to Lambiel!
Those tears at the medal cermony really got to me..he's got to be one of the happiest medalists at this olympics. So happy for him!
Well, hope he can come back and do a great job next year since we won't be seing him in the worlds.
And congratulations to Lambiel!
Those tears at the medal cermony really got to me..he's got to be one of the happiest medalists at this olympics. So happy for him!- Joined
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slutskayafan21 said:
One thing to express an opinion on an inflated score, it is entirely different to accuse a skater (which you did) or a federation (which you did as well) of PAYING OFF JUDGES.
poor taste, IMHO.
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Antilles said:
No, one was in a combo..
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Engwaciriel said:
I think we've solved the mystery. I believe you're only allowed to repeat two jumps, whether they're in combo or not doesn't matter for this rule. That is why the triple lutz was invalid, was because since he didn't get credit for the quad he did two triple toes, and had also already done two triple axels, so when he did the second triple lutz, no points.
Good to know Buttle won it fair and square.
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That's why I was so confused. I was at work and peeking instead of working and then got all upset. I'm happy with the medal winners. I just wish Johnny could have medaled, oh well, it was up to him.sk8fanconvert said:
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I'm going to watch it again tonight to see what I see. I can't recall his program at this point. I was matching element to element with Jeff. I thought he would have been behind Buttle but not by much. I didn't realize his spins were 3s and 2s compared to Jeff's 3s and 4s. I did think his second mark should have been quite weak.
Just checked the isu website (it's a PDF file so I can't C & P) and it says two of any jump, not three. Up to three combos.
This is the link:http://www.isu.org/vsite/vfile/page/fileurl/0,11040,4844-168609-185827-89562-0-file,00.pdf
The ISU site also has the protocals but not different from NBC on that jump except says triple lutz and starred as executed but not counted. I'm still stumped!
Just checked the isu website (it's a PDF file so I can't C & P) and it says two of any jump, not three. Up to three combos.
This is the link:http://www.isu.org/vsite/vfile/page/fileurl/0,11040,4844-168609-185827-89562-0-file,00.pdf
The ISU site also has the protocals but not different from NBC on that jump except says triple lutz and starred as executed but not counted. I'm still stumped!
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I'm depressed. I can't believe Johnny couldn't at least hold on to the Bronze after being second. ;o(
Slutskayfan21, Evan, Matt, Plushenko
I don't rip skaters apart Slutskayafan21 and accuse people of taking or giving bribes. It's reprehensible and unworthy of this site. See St-louis-blues comment to you, above this posting. Calling Mao Asada an immature skater is a valid comment. You on the other hand want to vilify Evan and you keep at it, not in just one post, but many. He doesn't deserve that, in fact none of the skaters deserve that.
Plushenko definitely deserved his win, inflated PCS or not, poorly designed program or not. Congrats to him. I thought Matt was wonderful and I admire him more than any other male skater. His music was gorgeous and so was his whole program. He is such a joy to watch. He truly is a great stylist and a skater's skater. Evan was also great. His spins were excellent and he showed considerable courage to come back like that after a tough SP. I feel really badly for Johnny, but maybe he will stay in and be back in 4 years for another shot at a medal. I hope he keeps competing because he has tremendous style and talent. His program was infinitely better than Plushenko's I will say that.
I don't rip skaters apart Slutskayafan21 and accuse people of taking or giving bribes. It's reprehensible and unworthy of this site. See St-louis-blues comment to you, above this posting. Calling Mao Asada an immature skater is a valid comment. You on the other hand want to vilify Evan and you keep at it, not in just one post, but many. He doesn't deserve that, in fact none of the skaters deserve that.
Plushenko definitely deserved his win, inflated PCS or not, poorly designed program or not. Congrats to him. I thought Matt was wonderful and I admire him more than any other male skater. His music was gorgeous and so was his whole program. He is such a joy to watch. He truly is a great stylist and a skater's skater. Evan was also great. His spins were excellent and he showed considerable courage to come back like that after a tough SP. I feel really badly for Johnny, but maybe he will stay in and be back in 4 years for another shot at a medal. I hope he keeps competing because he has tremendous style and talent. His program was infinitely better than Plushenko's I will say that.
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Were you mean Matt's 2nd lutz in combo?Sk8n Mama said:
When I watched, his program absolutely amazing, so many transitions into jumps. Always something happens in the program yet so smooth. But I was wondering if his 2nd lutz which was in a combo (3Lutz/1Toe) was counted. Since I read somewhere 1toe is not counted as a jump, so if he did 3Lutz/1toe, it could be called as a single 3Lutz, which would disqualify this 2nd Lutz jump by Zayak rule.
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mzheng said:
No the one toe counts, but it's almost like nothing..he only did it to be able to do the lutz afterwards..I believer that Lambiel, in the euros, instead of stepping out of a jump he threw in a single toe..so it's veyr much allowed..
Any updates on the Takahashi mystery?
