Michael Jackson Dead

[Tonichelle]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that Michael wasn't exactly "all there". I don't think he ever had a chance to grow up normally and that effected him. Interviews Dateline has shown lately have him talking of some of the things he went through while his father managed the Jackson 5. Using Michael as the "performance example" sitting on the sideline during rehearsal holding his belt and hitting the child(ren) when they missed a step, turn, or note... Michael said he wasn't the one who got most of the whacks, but his dad made a point to say the others needed to be ore like him. That's a whole lot of pressure for an 8 year old boy. He's been part-adult, part-child since the early days... and no one expected more or less...

but then there are the songs that HE wrote, and some of the things he did/said... that makes you think he was perfectly 'normal' the lyrics speak deep down... and the dancing is all out adult (and way different than what he did as a child star lol)... so I just don't know...

emotionally I think he was all over the map, and he was exploited by all of those around him. Family and friends... as well as those parental "fans"...

what was telling in an unshown (until now) interview where Michael was saying from an early age he was taught how to be responsible with money, that every week a check would come and his dad would save most of it and give Michael a small allowance and he'd by "candy and gum"... now, in those days the check wouldn't be what Michael got later in his career but it wouldn't be pennies... and there's no way he'd blow a ton on candy at age 12 (which is the age he referred to hismelf as)... so how much of an allowance did this kid really get? Papa Joe's pocket?

And then they're in Vegas and his buying out this store of all of these gaudy things for one of his homes.... and no one is telling him it's "too much" (either price or for whatever he wants to do) and looking at the way he crammed his Neverland home... it just doesn't add up to wise spending and it's no wonder he was in debt!


it's not so much that I'm trying to nitpick, but it just goes to show that success in one's field does not make that person A success... yes Michael was "special" and "talented" and "great" at what he did, but aside from his kids was he truly happy? I don't think one could say he was even content with what he had.

 

[Dee4707]

And then they're in Vegas and his buying out this store of all of these gaudy things for one of his homes.... and no one is telling him it's "too much" (either price or for whatever he wants to do) and looking at the way he crammed his Neverland home... it just doesn't add up to wise spending and it's no wonder he was in debt!

It was during the documentary that he goes shopping in Las Vegas. I think they said he spent several million.

it's not so much that I'm trying to nitpick, but it just goes to show that success in one's field does not make that person A success... yes Michael was "special" and "talented" and "great" at what he did, but aside from his kids was he truly happy? I don't think one could say he was even content with what he had.

Toni, I totally agree, what a troubled soul.

 

[SeaniBu]

Sean, I said this and stand by my opinion. I'm sorry you're bothered by it but that just it, it is my opinion.

There is no need to make peole feel like they can't occasionally show "spirt" without being ridiculed about it. That is what makes it you doing the "cool" thing and standing up for patretisum only when it comes in question.

To me patriotism is a value a person possesses forever.

And that I stated also - Read this carefully, particularly the last part ...

What you are saying disassociates the aspect of good when people come together in a time of crises - and that is condescendingly degrading to the culture who came together in a time of sorrow. Showing support to each other and the message we may seem disassociated from each other, but in a time of need most will show they were there all along.

All I can think is you feel more special than the other patriotic Americans, and this make you feel better??? I am sure your intent is good.

... comradely during a time of trouble. When there is trouble that is amongst people - people will rally together and show their support.

This has been one of the defining factors in the evolution of man, so I would say get used to it. And note you are doing that in which you profess.

Then parents need to make sure their children are safe. It's a value a parent possesses.

It was a joke Dee Thanks for the info though.

Kinda sounds like you are saying it is fine if someone "does something bad to children" because the parents should have .... ????? I 'spose it's OK to break the law because the police should have done something about it. Beer manufactures fault for drunk driving ... ooh I got it, the Mods at G.S. fault for not preventing every rude post... wth
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[Ladskater]

When you think about it, who of us could withstand the kind of adulation and attention that Michael Jackson received from his fans, press and just curious by-standers in general without being affected? It would be pretty difficult to lead a "normal life" under the spotlight. His passing, like Elvis Prelsey's does cause a fervor as he had reached such notoriety. However, one must keep things in perspective. The media of course will milk it for all it is worth. That's the price of being famous. One can only hope Michael Jackson's children will receive some guidance.

 

[CzarinaAnya]

Sean, I said this and stand by my opinion. I'm sorry you're bothered by it but that just it, it is my opinion. To me patriotism is a value a person possesses forever.


Then parents need to make sure their children are safe. It's a value a parent possesses.

You know maybe I am the fool. The women I was with at lunch and you may know something more about the child's sincerity about losing her father. All I know is it made me cry and that's not an easy thing to do. I lost my mom over a year ago and I hope that no one judged my sincerity over losing my beautiful mom.

No, I wasn't questioning her sincerity, AT ALL. I was questioning any coaching going on by the family. I said that I know she must be grieving for him.
Of course she was nervous. That'd be pretty scary to talk to that many people at once.

 

[heyang]

No, I wasn't questioning her sincerity, AT ALL. I was questioning any coaching going on by the family. I said that I know she must be grieving for him.
Of course she was nervous. That'd be pretty scary to talk to that many people at once.

From what I saw, I believe Paris's 'speech' was unplanned. If you watch her while Marlon is speaking, she's whispering to her aunts and Janet is nodding her head to her. Then, one of the brothers announced that Janet wanted to say something and Janet corrected him by tilting her head towards Paris.

The only prompting going on was their trying to tell her how to use the microphone (believe me, a lot of people don't realize how closely and directly you need to speak into a microphone of that type.)

There's no way I would've been able to speak like that in front of just my family at a funeral, let alone hundreds of thousands of people.

The producers of the show said that they told the Jackson family that they were welcome to speak at the end of the memorial service, but had no idea who would actually do so or what they would say.