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Mikhail Kolyada

vorravorra said:
Falling on 4Lz is still expected. With his height and speed on 4Lz it's hard to stop the momentum, he needs to develop better control of the jump. That fall unfortunately still seems to affect his 4T - I wonder if something could be done about the latter at least. Doing 4T first is not really an option since 4Lz requires too much energy to do it as a second quad.

I still wonder if he might have let his attention drift away from 3A a bit in training since it is a good jump and according to Valentina he does it in practice easily, and that might have played a role.

I understand him wanting to rehabilitate himself by doing a 3A in the EX, but why try to go for a 4T after that? That EX wasn't even meant for three jumps. No wonder he couldn't rotate it and almost hit the boards.
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I was wondering about it too - it is unfortunate it didn't work and hence didn't do much for his confidence. I'd say it just was one of those competitions where the luck was not on his side (though medal wise it was). I wonder if they are planning to compete in some small competition before Worlds?
Plushenko commented on Euros here:
https://russian.rt.com/sport/articl...igurnoe-katanie-intervyu#.WJDEIVhNdRc.twitter

Kolyada:
'He upset me. His style is very close to mine. Possibly he should have not done a 4lz, then the skate would have been cleaner and hence the result – different. But in the end he finished in the top three at Euros which can be called an excellent result. If Kolyada lands his lutz I don’t envy his competitors'.
 
I guess he is trying now to make his 4T more consistent as a second jump, or forth or fifth jump in the programms. Last year he fighted with it a lot, it was just two tournaments in the season where he did it well as a first jump in the both programms. From the beginnig of this season he did it very good as a first jump (with an exeption of his SP in Japan), I think now he tries to make it more consistent and uses to do it as a second jump, or a jump he could do at the second half of the programm, and uses every opportunity to try it. So far, it does not work, but he is a stubborn person, I think.
 
http://www.rtr.spb.ru/vesti/vesti_2014/news_detail_v.asp?id=19016
Short video from the local channel - Mika is back to Saint-Petersburg, he says that he is satisfied with the result but not with his perfomance there. Then Valentina remembers like he came to her at the age of 5.5, she immediately noted his amazing jumping ability, and that he was funny and merry too. Then it was shown and told that he taped his boots with a scotch tape, he does it everytime, they remembered that his buttonhook on the boot was broken once right during the perfomance in the Russian Nationals. Now he is prearing for the Worlds, his minimal task is to do a clean perfomance.
 
Glad he's thinking of clean skates instead of results. Usually results follows good skates, not the other way around, so that mindset is very positive! Wish him same succes on skating clean as he had last Worlds :)
 
cathlen said:
Glad he's thinking of clean skates instead of results. Usually results follows good skates, not the other way around, so that mindset is very positive! Wish him same succes on skating clean as he had last Worlds :)
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I agree skating clean is the key but with his 4lz being still so raw it is such a gamble. I wonder if they put 4T first would it make any difference... A lot was said here about the pressure of competing as new Russian champion being the reason for problems at Euros but I think the 4lz is 'responsible' for that even more. It must be very tough to start the program with an element you have no confidence in whatsoever, to fall and to have to skate on the program trying to block it out. Mika is a fighter having done that well under circumstances.
The competition at Worlds this year will be such that same score as last year might be only good enough for top 10. I guess we'll have a better idea next week at 4CC what is going to be like.

Now that Stanislava is going to Junior Worlds, some of Valentina's attention inevitably will shift on to her and the timing of Junior Worlds is a bit unfortunate just 10 days before Helsinki. Mika could do with some minor competition before to get more mileage on 4lz but there are not that many in February/March?
 
https://vk.com/video-24618099_456239216

This is a somewhat extended version of the video from post 1146. There is a little bit of "character" stuff with Valentina talking about what Misha used to get up to around 10 years ago - for instance, at the Panin Memorial before the draw he set off firecrackers in his hands [to see what happens???] and burned his face (fortunately not his eyes). But the worst thing that happened to him was obviously the leg fracture that nearly ended his career. Misha once again talks about quads and how they are necessary these days and they require some risks to be taken.

Of course Misha risk-taking (not of the professional variety) didn't end 10 years ago. Photos from a few years ago of him climbing roofs were seriously scary - he seemed to have no fear of heights whatsoever (and after narrowly avoiding dropping several floors he broke his leg on a twizzle. But I think it still made him revise his attitude).
 
Tutto said:
I agree skating clean is the key but with his 4lz being still so raw it is such a gamble. I wonder if they put 4T first would it make any difference... A lot was said here about the pressure of competing as new Russian champion being the reason for problems at Euros but I think the 4lz is 'responsible' for that even more. It must be very tough to start the program with an element you have no confidence in whatsoever, to fall and to have to skate on the program trying to block it out. Mika is a fighter having done that well under circumstances.
The competition at Worlds this year will be such that same score as last year might be only good enough for top 10. I guess we'll have a better idea next week at 4CC what is going to be like.

Now that Stanislava is going to Junior Worlds, some of Valentina's attention inevitably will shift on to her and the timing of Junior Worlds is a bit unfortunate just 10 days before Helsinki. Mika could do with some minor competition before to get more mileage on 4lz but there are not that many in February/March?
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You make it sound like Stasya had been a Cinderella until now having to contend with whatever scraps of attentions were left over :biggrin:. Valentina must have attended to her a lot prepare her for Senior and Junior Nationals and I am sure she knows how to distribute her attention fairly. She is not the first coach to have more than one successful student, plus Misha is reasonably independent. Maybe in a perfect world Valentina could devote all her attention to Misha (but then again, that may be too much for him).

The fact that Junior Worlds are in Taipei makes me rather worried because we all remember what a long plane trip and jet lag did to Misha. And Stasya had some trouble when she had to skate in Harbin (as did some other skaters on the Russian team who complained of sleepless nights and the like). Maybe seasoned competitors have developed strategies for coping with it but it's not easy when you are just starting out.

The quad lutz may explain the pop in the FS at Euros, but what about the SP? The problem began there. The FS pop sounded very much like a consequence of that first pop, leading to worry, overthinking and loss of confidence.

I think the top 10 would be an acceptable result this season if it comes to that. It is still very much a work in progress. Misha and Maxim's main task is to retain two quotas and such a placement would guarantee Misha two Grand Prix spots. As long as he does not make stupid mistakes and give away points like he did at Euros I will be satisfied and he should be too to a reasonable extent at least. And it's not like skating that program without avoidable mistakes under pressure is asking too much of him - he has already done that.

Last season Misha took part in a competition between Euros and Worlds, what was it? He so badly there though that I am not sure such an experience would be a net positive.
Someone on FSO was kind enough to put together a list of competitions for February/March:

14 - 19 Feb Bavarian Open (Oberstdorf, Germany)
16 - 19 Feb Olympic Hopes (Brasov, Romania)
21 - 25 Feb Open Ice Mall Cup (Eilat, Israel)
23 - 26 Feb Challenge Cup (The Hague, Netherlands)
28 Feb - 5 Mar Cup of Tyrol (Innsbruck, Austria)
10 - 12 Mar Coupe du Printemps (Kockelscheuer, Luxembourg)
 
vorravorra said:
You make it sound like Stasya had been a Cinderella until now having to contend with whatever scraps of attentions were left over :biggrin:. Valentina must have attended to her a lot prepare her for Senior and Junior Nationals and I am sure she knows how to distribute her attention fairly. She is not the first coach to have more than one successful student, plus Misha is reasonably independent. Maybe in a perfect world Valentina could devote all her attention to Misha (but then again, that may be too much for him).

The fact that Junior Worlds are in Taipei makes me rather worried because we all remember what a long plane trip and jet lag did to Misha. And Stasya had some trouble when she had to skate in Harbin (as did some other skaters on the Russian team who complained of sleepless nights and the like). Maybe seasoned competitors have developed strategies for coping with it but it's not easy when you are just starting out.

The quad lutz may explain the pop in the FS at Euros, but what about the SP? The problem began there. The FS pop sounded very much like a consequence of that first pop, leading to worry, overthinking and loss of confidence.

I think the top 10 would be an acceptable result this season if it comes to that. It is still very much a work in progress. Misha and Maxim's main task is to retain two quotas and such a placement would guarantee Misha two Grand Prix spots. As long as he does not make stupid mistakes and give away points like he did at Euros I will be satisfied and he should be too to a reasonable extent at least. And it's not like skating that program without avoidable mistakes under pressure is asking too much of him - he has already done that.

Last season Misha took part in a competition between Euros and Worlds, what was it? He so badly there though that I am not sure such an experience would be a net positive.
Someone on FSO was kind enough to put together a list of competitions for February/March:

14 - 19 Feb Bavarian Open (Oberstdorf, Germany)
16 - 19 Feb Olympic Hopes (Brasov, Romania)
21 - 25 Feb Open Ice Mall Cup (Eilat, Israel)
23 - 26 Feb Challenge Cup (The Hague, Netherlands)
28 Feb - 5 Mar Cup of Tyrol (Innsbruck, Austria)
10 - 12 Mar Coupe du Printemps (Kockelscheuer, Luxembourg)
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Well, I noted that Stanislava was with Olga at her JGP events as these clashed with Mika's GPs, so obviously Mika has been indisputable No 1 so far, but Junior Worlds is the first major international event for Stanislava, I'd imagine Valentina will go with her. In no way I question Valentina's ability to handle both her top students only saying that the timing is a bit unfortunate. One can't be in two places at the same time, so Valentina will be away for a week in a crucial run-up to Helsinki but I am sure they will be well prepared for that.
It was the Hellmut Memorial (or Cup?) in Vienna and yes the event was badly organised and even worse attended and the ice was awful so I don't think they would go there again. Wasn't there some local St Petersburg's competition around that time - I remember Liza tested her 3A at before Worlds? It would be great if he could land that 4lz in some comp before Helsinki to get a confidence boost!
 
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vorravorra said:
https://vk.com/video-24618099_456239216

This is a somewhat extended version of the video from post 1146. There is a little bit of "character" stuff with Valentina talking about what Misha used to get up to around 10 years ago - for instance, at the Panin Memorial before the draw he set off firecrackers in his hands [to see what happens???] and burned his face (fortunately not his eyes). But the worst thing that happened to him was obviously the leg fracture that nearly ended his career. Misha once again talks about quads and how they are necessary these days and they require some risks to be taken.

Of course Misha risk-taking (not of the professional variety) didn't end 10 years ago. Photos from a few years ago of him climbing roofs were seriously scary - he seemed to have no fear of heights whatsoever (and after narrowly avoiding dropping several floors he broke his leg on a twizzle. But I think it still made him revise his attitude).
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Oh well, well-behaved timid kids rarely progress to the champions! I remember Mishin said he was always on a lookout for 'hooligans' :laugh: I also read somewhere that Mika is a daredevil on his bike but I can't vouch for this info. One can imagine what Valentina must have been through with young Mika - life certainly could not be dull!
 
Tutto said:
Well, I noted that Stanislava was with Olga at her JGP events as these clashed with Mika's GPs, so obviously Mika has been indisputable No 1 so far, but Junior Worlds is the first major international event for Stanislava, I'd imagine Valentina will go with her. In no way I question Valentina's ability to handle both her top students only saying that the timing is a bit unfortunate. One can't be in two places at the same time, so Valentina will be away for a week in a crucial run-up to Helsinki but I am sure they will be well prepared for that.
It was the Hellmut Memorial (or Cup?) in Vienna and yes the event was badly organised and even worse attended and the ice was awful so I don't think they would go there again. Wasn't there some local St Petersburg's competition around that time - I remember Liza tested her 3A at before Worlds? It would be great if he could land that 4lz in some comp before Helsinki to get a confidence boost!
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Championship of St. Petersburg? It's on 28 Febuary - 3 March. The other possible one is the St. Petersburg Cup Final, but it's a bit too late (21-24 March).

I guess as big fan of Stasya I am a bit touchy about the implication that she should remain less important. This competition is a chance for a breakthrough for her - exactly what Misha got last season at senior Worlds. At a minimum, she needs to get a high score to secure two senior Grand Prix spots for herself - once again, exactly like Misha last season. And she does not have a safety cushion, both because she has not made a name for herself yet and because ladies' skating is much more competitive in Russia. One thing she has easier is that she does not have to worry about quotas (unless, God forbid, there is a repeat of last season's situation).

That said, I am not implying that Misha should be neglected and I am pretty certain that won't happen, especially considering the kind of relationship Valentina and he have. I think Valentina will try to be away for as short a time as possible for Junior Worlds. Stasya has said that she normally travels with her mother so it should be easier.
 
Tutto said:
Oh well, well-behaved timid kids rarely progress to the champions! I remember Mishin said he was always on a lookout for 'hooligans' :laugh: I also read somewhere that Mika is a daredevil on his bike but I can't vouch for this info. One can imagine what Valentina must have been through with young Mika - life certainly could not be dull!
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That's interesting. I have never heard bikes mentioned in relation to Misha. The impression I got is that Misha changed his attitude to taking unnecessary risks somewhat after his leg fracture (and growing up, I suppose).
 
vorravorra said:
That's interesting. I have never heard bikes mentioned in relation to Misha. The impression I got is that Misha changed his attitude to taking unnecessary risks somewhat after his leg fracture (and growing up, I suppose).
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I think I read it in the comments section on sports.ru a good while back, probably when Mika was only coming in the spotlight. Well judging by the recent photo Mika switched to somewhat safer 4-wheel vehicle now :)
 
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Apparently Misha had been planning to take part in the Russian Cup Final, but declined at the last moment due to back problems. They are saying it's nothing serious, muscle spasm and edema due to excessive strain, his spine is fine. But they need to take it easy for a bit. Misha is being treated with massage and acupuncture and they are only doing triple jumps at the moment. Their priority is to restore his health.

http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20170210/1116138174.html
 
vorravorra said:
Apparently Misha had been planning to take part in the Russian Cup Final, but declined at the last moment due to back problems. They are saying it's nothing serious, muscle spasm and edema due to excessive strain, his spine is fine. But they need to take it easy for a bit. Misha is being treated with massage and acupuncture and they are only doing triple jumps at the moment. Their priority is to restore his health.

http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20170210/1116138174.html
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Oh no!!!!!!!! Damn the 4lz!
Get well soon Mika!!!!!!!!
 
Tutto said:
Oh no!!!!!!!! Damn the 4lz!
Get well soon Mika!!!!!!!!
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I suppose it is one of those "could be worse" things :ohwell: Misha had talked about how hard the quad lutz was on the back it was hard not to feel apprehensive. But apparently they had arrived at the same conclusion we had - Misha needs competitions before Worlds. He might still be able to make the Championship of St. Petersburg if everything goes well and he wants to. Let's hope everything goes well and send him good vibes! :ghug:
 
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