Mikhail Kolyada

[Lana05]

I don't think anyone has tried more quads than Misha in Russia this season. If you count Kvitelashvili, he has gone for 5, but I can't think of someone actually attempting 6+ :scratch3: Aliev's coach talked about it but it never materialised due to his injury and such.

I think Erokhov will try 5 quards, he does 3 in fs at junior events and can add 3lz-4t(he decided to maximize points without risking and putting difficult quards like 4Lz and 4F) and 4S

 

[vorravorra]

I think Erokhov will try 5 quards, he does 3 in fs at junior events and can add 3lz-4t(he decided to maximize points without risking and putting difficult quards like 4Lz and 4F) and 4S

Erokhov may try 5 quads at senior events with two in the SP plus three in the FS, like Kvitelashvili does now, we'll have to see.

 

[vorravorra]

He has a chance to win it, for sure. But it's all about him. If he delivers, It'll be hard to stop him.

In his latest interview https://rsport.ria.ru/interview/20171105/1128261383.html Misha says that he will go to the GPF in a calm state of mind because he knows it's unlikely he'll get a medal unless someone makes mistakes and he is perfect. (It's rather improbable that nobody will make mistakes, so if he is perfect he has a definite chance, but there is the small matter of actually being perfect and he clearly feels that he is not up to it yet.)

He also says that he lands at least 3/5 quad lutzes in training. (Better than before, still not enough to expect it reliably in competitions. His problem right now seems to be that he starts to lose his axis and lean backwards after the highest point of the jump. When he manages to keep it within limits, he lands the jump.)

 

[Lana05]

Misha's 4Lz-3T from CoC practice:

https://vk.com/video-24618099_456239408

Quad salchow can be found in here:

https://vk.com/videos-24618099?z=video-24618099_456239399%2Fpl_-24618099_-2

4Lz-3T GIF https://vk.com/doc14299407_453429224?hash=0230ac2dcde0dbe36f&dl=9eddf1d6bc1acc73d9

 

[coldblueeyes]

I don't think anyone has tried more quads than Misha in Russia this season. If you count Kvitelashvili, he has gone for 5, but I can't think of someone actually attempting 6+ :scratch3: Aliev's coach talked about it but it never materialised due to his injury and such.

I was talking about men in general in this particular sentence. He's at the same level of quads Javi is, but a bunch of other guys have 4-5 quads in one program and such.

In his latest interview https://rsport.ria.ru/interview/20171105/1128261383.html Misha says that he will go to the GPF in a calm state of mind because he knows it's unlikely he'll get a medal unless someone makes mistakes and he is perfect. (It's rather improbable that nobody will make mistakes, so if he is perfect he has a definite chance, but there is the small matter of actually being perfect and he clearly feels that he is not up to it yet.)

He also says that he lands at least 3/5 quad lutzes in training. (Better than before, still not enough to expect it reliably in competitions. His problem right now seems to be that he starts to lose his axis and lean backwards after the highest point of the jump. When he manages to keep it within limits, he lands the jump.)

I also think Misha is taking things as they come, because he does need to get used to more pressure, not just to battle full on against the top guys, but in the off chance of him having a good SP like in China, and the others falling apart, he puts himself in contention. And then delivering again will put increased pressure on him.

And yeah, we can actually see when he's going to land the jump in the air, at least it seems very clear from the position of his back and hips whether he'll manage to land or not. This regarding the lutz, because he's managing to salvage other jumps, including his 4t at the FS in CoC

 

[skatenewbie]

Wow his 4Lz is seriously so huge, i think it was the biggest and highest among others... he completes 4 rotation quite high before his legs touch the ice, its clearly seen in that gif. i think he can pull off 5Lz< lol.

 

[Tutto]

Late to join in but congratulations to Mika!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hap93:

New interviews with Mika:
http://fsrussia.ru/intervyu/3335-mikhail-kolyada-priyatno-chto-dvizhemsya-v-vernom-napravlenii.html
http://fsrussia.ru/news/3329-mikhail-kolyada-vyigral-etap-gran-pri-v-kitae.html

Some points:

- After the SP where he managed to get into a zone and it felt like flying, it was very difficult to do the same in LP, especially being in 1st after the SP. The anger helped him to come back with 3A-3T after doubled 4S, a popped axel he thinks was caused by a split-second loss of concentration, relaxed too soon after a successful 4T
- Judges came over to congratulate and praise him (Wow is it a common thing?) that meant a good deal to him
- Very appreciative of his work with Lambiel saying that it made him to look at skating from a different perspective
- GPF is a surprise, he loves Japan and looks forward to it

I was wondering too about Tallinn Trophy as mentioned earlier in the thread. On one hand it is too close to GPF on the other if to skip it it would mean 5 weeks not competing at all. To use it as a dress rehearsal of GPF? Tallinn is only a short hop from St Petersburg after all...

So sorry have no time to translate more

 

[xeyra]

An interesting thing about Tallinn Trophy is that it's rumoured to be used as a test event for the new GOE range (-5 to +5). Might be interesting to compete in there for that reason alone, and it still gives him close to 2 weeks before GPF. He might want that competition to further develop his confidence now that he's managed to crack 100+ in the SP and qualify for the GPF.

 

[coldblueeyes]

I think the logistics for Tallinn Trophy are not atrocious, and five weeks right now would be way too much time in this schedule he's maintaining - he did Nepela/two weeks/Finlandia/two weeks/Rostelecom/two weeks/Cup of China, and then three weeks to Tallinn, and two more to GPF, then two weeks to RN, before pretty much a month before Europeans.

If he's healthy, it wouldn't be bad to have all that experience in competition before the next year with Olympics/Worlds. He is progressively competing better each time.

 

[Tutto]

An interesting thing about Tallinn Trophy is that it's rumoured to be used as a test event for the new GOE range (-5 to +5). Might be interesting to compete in there for that reason alone, and it still gives him close to 2 weeks before GPF. He might want that competition to further develop his confidence now that he's managed to crack 100+ in the SP and qualify for the GPF.

Very interesting info, I wonder how it will be done and would the scores be factored back to the current system?

 

[xeyra]

Very interesting info, I wonder how it will be done and would the scores be factored back to the current system?

I assume the competition would still be used for ranking points since those only concern placements in the competition, but I'm not sure if it would be possible to factor back to the current system so I assume PBs wouldn't be counted.

 

[beki]

I too hope he goes to Tallinn Trophy, because it seems like he's gaining important experience from each competition. The first time he's in a new, different situation seems hard for him, so more competitions will help him practice how to react.

More than ever, I think Valentina is the right coach for him. The biggest challenge is building his confidence and keeping him from getting discouraged, and that requires a nurturing, trusting relationship, not a strict one.

 

[Heleng]

This is a wonderful fan page, with considerate, level-headed, respectful, and enthusiastic fans of Mikhail! I really need to spend more time in here than in the general forum, LOL. Thanks, vorravorra and coldblueeyes, for your thoughtful posts and helping to put things into perspective, and to everyone who shares in their excitement, insights, articles, translations, videos, etc. And sincere apologies for my vent, which I'm honestly not in the habit of. Everyone has skaters that resonate with them emotionally and aesthetically more than others for whatever reason (Mikhail is one of those skaters for me) and I just don't see why being a fan of one skater should exclude appreciating his/her competitor. (Among Mikhail's Russian competitors, I love Voronov too and think Aliev is a lovely skater who shows great promise.) Anyway, enough of this and on to sharing in celebrating Mikhail's showing at CoC! I've watched multiple generations of figure skaters, well before the current scoring system, and his sp created one of those beautiful moments that will always remain etched in my memory. And for me it wasn't just his brilliant quad Lutz, but also how brilliantly he skated the rest of the program. If there was any doubt before, he really put himself on the map! It sounds like he and his coach (she seems a lovely person and highly intelligent coach, I'm so impressed by how she's patiently guided him his entire skating career and love watching her in the k&c!) know exactly what he needs to work on to improve his elements and consistency. It's great that he's realistic and level-headed about the GPF. I'm so excited for him for this season and cheering hard for him to fulfill his potential!!!

 

[coldblueeyes]

This is a wonderful fan page, with considerate, level-headed, respectful, and enthusiastic fans of Mikhail! I really need to spend more time in here than in the general forum, LOL.
I'm so excited for him for this season and cheering hard for him to fulfill his potential!!!

I think this is what a lot of fan fests are like, but this place is good to vent too. However, we shouldn't bother with spite or anger or hatred because skating is a beautiful sport, and when we start to go down that road we lose the fun of following competitions and the skaters themselves as they evolve.

And let's all keep on cheering for him!

 

[vorravorra]

Misha's interview translated:

https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/samokhvalovs-interview-with-kolyada-when-i-need-a-kick-i-notify-chebotareva.102232/

 

[vorravorra]

Late to join in but congratulations to Mika!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hap93:

New interviews with Mika:
http://fsrussia.ru/intervyu/3335-mikhail-kolyada-priyatno-chto-dvizhemsya-v-vernom-napravlenii.html
http://fsrussia.ru/news/3329-mikhail-kolyada-vyigral-etap-gran-pri-v-kitae.html

Some points:

- After the SP where he managed to get into a zone and it felt like flying, it was very difficult to do the same in LP, especially being in 1st after the SP. The anger helped him to come back with 3A-3T after doubled 4S, a popped axel he thinks was caused by a split-second loss of concentration, relaxed too soon after a successful 4T
- Judges came over to congratulate and praise him (Wow is it a common thing?) that meant a good deal to him
- Very appreciative of his work with Lambiel saying that it made him to look at skating from a different perspective
- GPF is a surprise, he loves Japan and looks forward to it

I was wondering too about Tallinn Trophy as mentioned earlier in the thread. On one hand it is too close to GPF on the other if to skip it it would mean 5 weeks not competing at all. To use it as a dress rehearsal of GPF? Tallinn is only a short hop from St Petersburg after all...

So sorry have no time to translate more

I wish people would stop talking about a flawless SP at CoC. Misha screwed up a spin (and he really shouldn't screw up spins with his level of mastery of the element). It's like a huge proportion of people don't realise spins and other non-jump elements also count (which Misha talks about in his interview).

 

[coldblueeyes]

I really like how he talks in the interview that he should train more, and all in all he's so aware of everything he needs to do. Misha knows where he's at in the Russian field, he knows what he can and cannot do regarding quads, really, the three he has now are the only quads he'll ever have, and how much he needs to achieve more in competition. But I do find interesting how he talks about Valentina, and the way she's not demanding of him, or maybe it's just the way I see it. It's not like it isn't working, they do have a god rapport.

 

[Lana05]

People says that he was lucky to get gold there but in fact Misha could overtake both Hanyu and Chen and got a gold if he skated clean. So it's not about luck, it's only about how Kolyada skates. He has everything to get over 300 now.

 

[vorravorra]

I really like how he talks in the interview that he should train more, and all in all he's so aware of everything he needs to do. Misha knows where he's at in the Russian field, he knows what he can and cannot do regarding quads, really, the three he has now are the only quads he'll ever have, and how much he needs to achieve more in competition. But I do find interesting how he talks about Valentina, and the way she's not demanding of him, or maybe it's just the way I see it. It's not like it isn't working, they do have a god rapport.

I didn't get the impression that Valentina is not demanding, including from what other students have said. From the way Stasya talked about her she's got the kind of authority where students just do what she tells them without endless questioning. In Misha's case I think he is pretty independent and self-motivated, and Valentina often has to hold him back from being too rash if anything according to what both of them have said. He wants to try things he is not quite ready for, she lets him, he fails and listens to her next time. At least at the present age he doesn't act up for the sake of acting up where he needs to be put in his place by punitive methods. But it's true that Olga is tougher than Valentina and more inclined to play the bad cop.

 

[coldblueeyes]

I didn't get the impression that Valentina is not demanding, including from what other students have said. From the way Stasya talked about her she's got the kind of authority where students just do what she tells them without endless questioning. In Misha's case I think he is pretty independent and self-motivated, and Valentina often has to hold him back from being too rash if anything according to what both of them have said. He wants to try things he is not quite ready for, she lets him, he fails and listens to her next time. At least at the present age he doesn't act up for the sake of acting up where he needs to be put in his place by punitive methods. But it's true that Olga is tougher than Valentina and more inclined to play the bad cop.

Well, maybe it gets lost in translation a bit. But the thing is, he's not a kid, he already has responsibility over himself, so in a way it makes sense that Valentina lets him have his way and then makes him understand what's wrong and how to work on it.