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I thought the purpose of attending Challenge Cup is for the ISU rank points? To get a better draw (later groups) at Worlds. He missed an entire season last year, and this year there hasn't been any events to get points from until CC.
 
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I rather hoped it wouldn't. :)
Lets hope the best is saved for a proper occasion ;)
Not sure was the Challenge Cup really worth losing a week of training at home, but they know best...
Whoever says that Mika's inconsistent, is sooo wrong, Mika always does poorly at small comps in February is is a tradition with him obviously :)
Though to think about it - 2 mistakes in total and 185 points LP actually isn't that bad a result, he really spoilt us this season...
I am wondering what's the story with 4sal, I thought trying it was the whole purpose of this comp? What are they planning for Worlds?
The pressure to retain 2 spots for Russia (forget 3!) is solely on Mika now and it could well be they would want to play it safe, what are your thoughts?
I think he should skate clean, skip the 4S.
 
I thought the purpose of attending Challenge Cup is for the ISU rank points? To get a better draw (later groups) at Worlds. He missed an entire season last year, and this year there hasn't been any events to get points from until this.
Unfortunately, not, no ranking points this season by ISU decision. He still will be disadvantaged at Worlds having missed last season, alas.
 
Oh. So I guess CC is just so he get some experience skating "outside Russia" this season, then.

He's currently ranked 32nd, but after crossing out the names of those who aren't going or have retired, he is around 17th or 18th.
 
Wasn't this his first fall all season in programs? I think that's a feat altogether.

And judging by his scores, and considering that CC was a more strict competition all around, he's on the way to scoring 100+ and 200+ in his programs if clean (we know he can score that on the SP from past seasons, and he lost around 10 points on the TES in the FS, and a clean Misha could definitely reach 94+, which would land him close to that 200+ mark)

Do I expect him to skate clean and do that? Not really, no. But hopefully he can capitalize on the good season he's had so far.

Now, the salchow, I'm not sure what the plan is. But he's worked on the flip, because the entrance is a bit different now. I think they're just planning things for the future. One way or another, anything he can add to his arsenal is good.
 
I must say I feel (relatively) calm watching Mikhail skate these days. Even if he makes a mistake or two, I never feel as if he's going to let the program get away from him.
Yes, exactly! I'm not nervous for him anymore, well, still a bit thrilled while waiting for him to skate, but overall he's different in this sense. When he popped his Axel in SP at CC, I wasn't devastated. Because I knew he'll put himself together for next start. It's a definition there, not just hoping or praying anymore.

This season is a build-up for his reputation. I think he'll choose to skate clean. And maybe, try 4S in World Team Trophy (if happens). I'll be fine with it either way. The wish for fighting for three spots thing is long gone for me anyway. In the end, I just wish him to show a beautiful performance, to wow people even without audience alongside the boards.
 
I’m pretty sure he fell once before on a triple axel. I appreciate you all being so optimistic! I guess this isn’t the thread for it, but we knew Kolyada would be named to world’s men’s team, but I’ve never heard of the other skater. I wonder what the fed is thinking. Just not even trying to get three spots for men at Olys? Ah, I think I just answered my own question. Anyway, I sure would have loved to have seen Dimi there. Maybe he still will be as first alternate. This seems so overtly pessimistic of fed.
 
I’m pretty sure he fell once before on a triple axel. I appreciate you all being so optimistic! I guess this isn’t the thread for it, but we knew Kolyada would be named to world’s men’s team, but I’ve never heard of the other skater.
Did you watch any of the Russia Cup series? Semenenko is their Junior National champion (end of January), and more importantly, Russia Cup Final champion (end of February) which basically was the deciding factor. He is on an upward trajectory.
 
I guess this isn’t the thread for it, but we knew Kolyada would be named to world’s men’s team, but I’ve never heard of the other skater.
Semenenko has three different kinds of quads (4Lo, 4T, 4S) on his pocket. He had won Russia Cup Stage 4 and final in this season. So on the aspect of technical difficulty, he has some advantages and potential to score decent amount. He's quite a jumper but less a performer (skating sill wise). Yes, being in the earlier group in participation of worlds might hurt him in second component, and lacking the SS is probably not gonna help either, but he has proved he can deliver when others cannot. He's a young star, and I think sending a young star, in some ways, can help develop the talent. Help them get the experience they need, to adjust more, before next Olympic season.

Overall I don't think this decision is stupid from RusFed, it's reasonable and fair. It's not like Dima doesn't have the history of bombing in worlds. What's done can't be undone. Let's hope for the best!
 
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Semenenko has three different kinds of quads (4Lo, 4T, 4S) on his pocket. He had won Russia Cup Stage 4 and final
Did you watch any of the Russia Cup series? Semenenko is their Junior National champion (end of January), and more importantly, Russia Cup Final champion (end of February) which basically was the deciding factor. He is on an upward trajectory.
Interesting to know. I don’t watch juniors because I have so many sentimental favorites that are nearing the end of their careers and I want them to go out on a good note. Plus I *love* redemption stories. It’s the same with tennis and the big three—and especially Serena. I’ll be able to switch to a new crop when they no longer have viable careers. Same with gymnastics. Women are seeming to crack the code of being able to do gymnastics longer and I’m envisioning a time when it won’t be just “elite” (meaning mid-teenagers) only get to go to Olys, while women’s college teams don’t. (But they DO get the big bonus of an education and probably free tuition and maybe had a life previously w/o living with a camp). I think a phenom like Simone Biles (and Ally Raisman) are showing gymnasts don’t need pixie-like body types and can be contenders in their 20s. Previously, only men in gymnastics and skating could have longer careers that survived puberty.

Once Misha, Dima, Shoma, and yes, Hanyu are gone, I’ll be able to look at up-and-comers. I do love Russian skating, though, and am generally rooting for them to do well in all disciplines.
 
I think he should skate clean, skip the 4S.
I agree, he just hasn't got enough mileage on the layout with 4S this season. Next season if they start with 4S or even 4lz it will be ready by Oly & worlds, now it is far too risky with Oly spots on the line. I don't want even to think of outcry if Russia loses 2nd spot, no matter what Mika will be the one blamed for the disaster, exactly as it was in Saitama, nobody blamed Samarin.
At the Team event it was obvious he also didn't have stamina for 3 quads, 2 3As program.
I was wondering if 4S is good enough in practice would it be wise to replace second 4T with 4Sal? He could then do two 3lz and avoid 3f which lets be honest can be costly for him as it was in Saitama. Amazingly his flip was not called at Challenge Cup - the video I saw was too bad to judge the edge?
 
I was wondering if 4S is good enough in practice would it be wise to replace second 4T with 4Sal? He could then do two 3lz and avoid 3f which lets be honest can be costly for him as it was in Saitama. Amazingly his flip was not called at Challenge Cup - the video I saw was too bad to judge the edge?
I don't know how this layout would work? Because he already repeats two kinds of jumps, toe and axel, so if you wanted him to do a second salchow, he'd need to not repeat another jump. The thing is, if he adds the salchow, he already doesn't need the flip anymore. As I commented in another post, the loop is a more important jump for him, because he will only not need it anymore when he adds the quad lutz.
But it was interesting to see the judges at CC giving him full credit for his flip. Is it getting better? Who knows. But I'd keep it for worlds if it means he's going to land it. A fall is far more jarring for the program than an edge issue.
 
Wasn't this his first fall all season in programs? I think that's a feat altogether.

And judging by his scores, and considering that CC was a more strict competition all around, he's on the way to scoring 100+ and 200+ in his programs if clean (we know he can score that on the SP from past seasons, and he lost around 10 points on the TES in the FS, and a clean Misha could definitely reach 94+, which would land him close to that 200+ mark)

Do I expect him to skate clean and do that? Not really, no. But hopefully he can capitalize on the good season he's had so far.

Now, the salchow, I'm not sure what the plan is. But he's worked on the flip, because the entrance is a bit different now. I think they're just planning things for the future. One way or another, anything he can add to his arsenal is good.
I noticed that too and guess what it was the only competition he went to without Mishin! ;)
According to some clever person on Russian forum who seem to understand that very complicated rule of how skaters are divided into groups at Worlds, Mika (if all remains the same - all the skaters arrive safely and get negative Covid tests in time and so on) is very unlucky to be the last skater who will draw for first 3 groups - he could even end in the first one! One position higher and he would be guaranteed to be in the 4th group - how is that for luck?!

@ our previous discussion, I think you are missing my point or I get confused with the rules. If he does only one 4T it would mean that he only repeats 3A, so he could do 4T, 4Sal, 2 3A and 2 3lz?
 
@ our previous discussion, I think you are missing my point or I get confused with the rules. If he does only one 4T it would mean that he only repeats 3A, so he could do 4T, 4Sal, 2 3A and 2 3lz?
He can only repeats two kinds of jumps. Otherwise he wouldn’t be jumping a flip anymore.
 
He can only repeats two kinds of jumps. Otherwise he wouldn’t be jumping a flip anymore.
For nearly this entire season, I thought the flip was a second lutz. That explains the discussion about the edge call.

I am no expert; after 50 yrs of watching skating, I only learned how to distinguish them, beyond easy ones like axel and lutz, last Olys—and the one I still can’t identify is the Salchow. So if I can’t, I know it’s a Salchow! (I know what the mechanics are, but watching live can’t do it.) At least we don’t have commentators interrupting to say what jump each is now that we have the box!
 
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