Nathan Chen
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Hmmm, I don't really get the PCS scoring but I'll take it... GO TEAM NATHAN - VINCENT!! 
You guys killed it.
Also, nice interview: http://olympics.nbcsports.com/2018/03/20/nathan-chen-figure-skating-world-championships/
You guys killed it.Also, nice interview: http://olympics.nbcsports.com/2018/03/20/nathan-chen-figure-skating-world-championships/
Okay, SP is the cleanest he has ever done, but still a little tentative, his vibe from his opening pose is more determined and settled than OG. And seems a bit calculated through this performance (somehow reminds me a bit of Boyang), I guess, maybe it is because his jumping form is not that reassuring. Maybe lingering ankle issues. from repo it is 50/50 so it is understandable.
it really is a very long season for Nathan.
But, he looked more handsome then ever in this outing. Even that Vanilla Vera
cannot do any damage to his ever increasing good looks.
:luv17:
it really is a very long season for Nathan.
But, he looked more handsome then ever in this outing. Even that Vanilla Vera
cannot do any damage to his ever increasing good looks.:luv17:
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YASSSSS, I'M SO HAPPY I CRIED
That's Nathan we know, a clean SP OMG what a gift!!! Do you understand it was the LAST NEMESIS ever? AND HE DELIVERED IT SO WELL
I was shocked by the negative GOEs but we'll look at the judges scores later because, to me, they all were clean!
AND OMG DO U KNOW HOW HAPPY I AM ABOUT HIS TRIPLE AXEL
It has been his Nemesis for yearsm now he NAILED it
Oooh, I'm so emotional rn, gotta rewatch it! Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGvWXx-Pv-s
That's Nathan we know, a clean SP OMG what a gift!!! Do you understand it was the LAST NEMESIS ever? AND HE DELIVERED IT SO WELL
I was shocked by the negative GOEs but we'll look at the judges scores later because, to me, they all were clean!
AND OMG DO U KNOW HOW HAPPY I AM ABOUT HIS TRIPLE AXEL
It has been his Nemesis for yearsm now he NAILED it
Oooh, I'm so emotional rn, gotta rewatch it! Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGvWXx-Pv-s
lt looks to me that after landing his opening lz combo, it really took lots of energy from him, that it took a while for him to recuperate. His interpretation is pretty on point (chill but with swager) until after his lutz combo then after 2 spins (resting period) he is back on track.
Maybe 4lutz is really energy consuming for Nathan.
Maybe 4lutz is really energy consuming for Nathan.
SP press conference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy65fSPazFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy65fSPazFw
Yes. He had to fight for every landing today.
I believe he will be better in the long. The SP must have been somewhat nerve-wrecking for him, after the experience at the Olympics.
4F is a whistle though.
For 3A he muscled just a tiny bit, and I was glad he landed his opening lutz combo, his lutz condition was not that good in this comp.
He could hold the landing position on 4F. He got two -2s on 4F.
-2 is because (i am assuming the -2 are given from Judges of his rivals nationality), he barely had enough height in his 4F to squeeze in revolution. but the flow and effortlessness of 4F is great
his quad jump landings are really something he can work on in the future, if he can hold his landing longer with flow, it will help his GOE.
4F is a whistle though.
For 3A he muscled just a tiny bit, and I was glad he landed his opening lutz combo, his lutz condition was not that good in this comp.
It seems to me in the OP his 4lz alone was worse than 4lz/3T combo. very funny!!
I am not sure I agree with your argument. If the landing position is not held, I am not sure the judges will give out positive GOE. That is the last image everyone sees in a jump.
That hop he did after landing 4F seems to suggest that he did not have enough flow out of the jump so he had to do that.
And no, judge #2 who gave him -2 on 4F was very generous on PCS.
yes landing holding an edge and with fab flow out seems is the No1 bullet that judges give out crazy GOE, yet Nathan seems never cared about it.
I don't know if it is an ability issue or just he never care of it. Sometimes, even with perfect landing position, Nathan seems choose to have a short landing, he does not milk the landing
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Congrats to Nate! It's nice to see he got the Olympics monkey off his back. Onto the free!
From what I saw, he was not really on today. Like I said, he had to fight for every landing today.
If you go back to his better performances, he did hold his landing position better.
The score reflected that.
He did a much more difficult program than Kolyada, but just barely beat him by less than 2 points.
Nathan scored higher (SP) at SA 2017 with a stepout on 3A.
To be honest, his landings today made me nervous. But I also know that skating this SP must have been nerve-wrecking for him.
In a way, he had a lot to prove today. I am glad that he managed to land everything.
I am pretty sure that he will be better in LP.
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I agree. The 4F is also somewhat questionable on rotations. I wouldn’t score any of the jumps positively in terms of GOE due to the landings, but Nathan also avoided making a “serious error,” so theoretically, I could also give him a 10 in any PCS category. TES and PCS are supposed to be independent — high TES isn’t supposed to guarantee high PCS, nor should a skater who makes a technical error be unduly punished again in PCS (the point of mandatory negative GOEs was to prevent that, I believe). Of course, it’s also arguable that it’s entirely justified to lower the Performance mark in the event of a fall (as a fall inherently disrupts the skater’s performance), but I think most people would agree that half a point is reasonable and two is punishing a skater twice.
I think Nemesis has become a weaker programme over time (too much of the original choreography has been eroded), and this wasn’t Nathan’s best performance, but his scores strike me as fair to generous, depending on your opinion of the 4F and how to treat the landings. He wasn’t the cleanest he’s ever been, but he did what he needed to do: keep all body parts but his feet off the ice. His program was more technically difficult than Kolyada’s but not performed nearly as well, so the gap in points between them is fair.
I was really worried when I saw Nathan’s layout, as landing the 4Lz and 4F close together has historically been difficult, so kudos to him for pulling it off, even if it was a bit shaky! And he’s gone back to his original takeoff technique on the 3A! Good call.
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