Nathan Chen

[discode]

Oh yeah, not a huge fan of having my posts moved either. I was talking amongst fans here and not with the general forum. Not saying everyone has to agree with me, but I feel I know the users here am more comfortable talking about things here. Thankfully nobody seems to care about this incident so I'm in the clear and don't have to deal with people responding to me.

 

[luckyu2]

I have a question as to what is the rationale to move some conversations regarding the current Nathan interview to the Edge?

Have fans being asked about their posts being moved to the main forum?

Typically, when posts are being moved to another thread, it is indicated where they are going to in the warning message. I had no idea this happened especially considering this is moving posts from a FF to the Edge. Very obsurd .

 

[1111bm]

Oh yeah, not a huge fan of having my posts moved either. I was talking amongst fans here and not with the general forum. Not saying everyone has to agree with me, but I feel I know the users here am more comfortable talking about things here. Thankfully nobody seems to care about this incident so I'm in the clear and don't have to deal with people responding to me.

Typically, when posts are being moved to another thread, it is indicated where they are going to in the warning message. I had no idea this happened especially considering this is moving posts from a FF to the Edge. Very obsurd .

This!
I'm not interested in and not comfortable talking about this topic with non-Nathan fans. That was kind of the beauty of being able to address the issue in his FF.
And I don't appreciate the moving of it to the general forum. Very disappointing move.

 

[AxelLover]

What do you guys think Nathan should do to maximize the chance that the "olympic SP disaster" doesn't happen again in Beijing? I believe he should start the program with either the 4Lz or 4F (whichever he finds easier by the time of the olympics) and then just do 4T+3T. Even safer variant would be to put the +3T right after the first quad (as long as the landing of the quad allows him to do so). Then even if he failed the second quad, he would at least not lose points for having no combination.

However, no matter what layout he chooses, the most important factor will be his mental state.

 

[luckyu2]

What do you guys think Nathan should do to maximize the chance that the "olympic SP disaster" doesn't happen again in Beijing? I believe he should start the program with either the 4Lz or 4F (whichever he finds easier by the time of the olympics) and then just do 4T+3T. Even safer variant would be to put the +3T right after the first quad (as long as the landing of the quad allows him to do so). Then even if he failed the second quad, he would at least not lose points for having no combination.

However, no matter what layout he chooses, the most important factor will be his mental state.

If I get to pick, it would be in the order of 4F3T, 3A and 4T so he has enough energy to focus on other elements of the program. However, if by GPF he is comfortable with maximizing the layout and stays healthy, I can see him going for the similar layout to worlds.

 

[sheetz]

I don't follow gymnastics but I was intrigued when Biles said she got the 'twisties', which seems strikingly similar to what happened to Nathan at PC. If you watch his failed jumps from the SP and TE you could see that his air positions were just way off and not like the way he normally jumped them. But somehow he managed to sort things out in the day between the SP and FS. Quite remarkable!

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A little more from Nathan's interview with Alex Cabrero

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The Tokyo Olympics look different than in years past. We chat with KSL Olympic veteran Alex Cabrero about what the games looks like this year for the media and athletes.

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[sheetz]

Oh yeah, not a huge fan of having my posts moved either. I was talking amongst fans here and not with the general forum. Not saying everyone has to agree with me, but I feel I know the users here am more comfortable talking about things here. Thankfully nobody seems to care about this incident so I'm in the clear and don't have to deal with people responding to me.

Couldn't you just delete your posts that were moved? If Joe deleted his post then would the entire thread disappear?

 

[lurkz2]

I don't follow gymnastics but I was intrigued when Biles said she got the 'twisties', which seems strikingly similar to what happened to Nathan at PC. If you watch his failed jumps from the SP and TE you could see that his air positions were just way off and not like the way he normally jumped them. But somehow he managed to sort things out in the day between the SP and FS. Quite remarkable!

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A little more from Nathan's interview with Alex Cabrero

KSL+: A Look Behind the Scenes at The Tokyo Olympics - KSLTV.com

The Tokyo Olympics look different than in years past. We chat with KSL Olympic veteran Alex Cabrero about what the games looks like this year for the media and athletes.

ksltv.com

I don't think so because, unlike gymnastics, skating does not have required tumbling elements where you somersault and being able to differentiate between floor and ceiling becomes critical.

Nathan himself said he found gymnastics elements a lot scarier than skating elements, though I don't remember from what interview.

 

[sheetz]

I don't think so because, unlike gymnastics, skating does not have required tumbling elements where you somersault and being able to differentiate between floor and ceiling becomes critical.

Nathan himself said he found gymnastics elements a lot scarier than skating elements, though I don't remember from what interview.

Right, I realize due to the nature of gymnastics losing your spatial awareness is a lot more dangerous than it would be for skating, but I'm wondering if what he was experiencing was similar?

 

[figureskatingandrainbows]

Right, I realize due to the nature of gymnastics losing your spatial awareness is a lot more dangerous than it would be for skating, but I'm wondering if what he was experiencing was similar?

Adam Rippon posted a video where he said something like the 'twisties' happened to him on some days, especially before certain competitions, that would affect his jumps and movement in the air. I'm guessing that it's definitely way more serious for gymnasts, but skaters can experience something similar where their jumps are off in the air because of some sort of mental block.

 

[1111bm]

What do you guys think Nathan should do to maximize the chance that the "olympic SP disaster" doesn't happen again in Beijing? I believe he should start the program with either the 4Lz or 4F (whichever he finds easier by the time of the olympics) and then just do 4T+3T. Even safer variant would be to put the +3T right after the first quad (as long as the landing of the quad allows him to do so). Then even if he failed the second quad, he would at least not lose points for having no combination.

I would love for him to do a 4F or 4Lz combo first, then as his second quad a 4T. Not gonna happen, I know but that would be ideal.

So Champs Camp is an in person event this year? I was hoping for another ISP type competition with videos being available.
His last year's ISP skates were so beautiful, and the video quality was good too.

 

[alexaa]

Typically, when posts are being moved to another thread, it is indicated where they are going to in the warning message. I had no idea this happened especially considering this is moving posts from a FF to the Edge. Very obsurd .

Usually posts are moved because they are more suitable for a new thread, and within the same sub forum. I’ve never seen posts moved out of FF to the main forum.

I’m going to ask the mod to move these posts back. Hopefully I won’t get banned for making a bid deal out of it.

ETA:

Is it possible to move the posts from Nathan FF back to the FF

I’m wondering why some of the posts from Nathan‘s FF moved to Edge? These posts were moved without posters’ knowledge. Some fans already indicated their unwillingness to have their posts moved moved to Edge, and considering deletion of their comments. So my question is why they are moved, and...

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[discode]

What do you guys think Nathan should do to maximize the chance that the "olympic SP disaster" doesn't happen again in Beijing? I believe he should start the program with either the 4Lz or 4F (whichever he finds easier by the time of the olympics) and then just do 4T+3T. Even safer variant would be to put the +3T right after the first quad (as long as the landing of the quad allows him to do so). Then even if he failed the second quad, he would at least not lose points for having no combination.

However, no matter what layout he chooses, the most important factor will be his mental state.

It really depends on what he feels. But yeah, that's my ideal too. I'd play it safe and just do his normal 4F/4T3T or even safer and do the combo first (which might not be great considering he's been doing the combo last for years, might throw him off for some random reason?) He doesn't need a massive SP lead or a SP lead at all to win. He just needs to get through it. His FS is his strength and where people can't catch him.

 

[Joe Mendoza]

What do you guys think Nathan should do to maximize the chance that the "olympic SP disaster" doesn't happen again in Beijing? I believe he should start the program with either the 4Lz or 4F (whichever he finds easier by the time of the olympics) and then just do 4T+3T. Even safer variant would be to put the +3T right after the first quad (as long as the landing of the quad allows him to do so). Then even if he failed the second quad, he would at least not lose points for having no combination.

However, no matter what layout he chooses, the most important factor will be his mental state.

I am sure Nathan and Raf will be cautious and measured in events leading up to the Olympics, but I would rather have him go all out during the Olympics - 4Lz 3A 4F3T

 

[Joe Mendoza]

Couldn't you just delete your posts that were moved? If Joe deleted his post then would the entire thread disappear?

Are we talking about me? Do I need to delete a post?

 

[alexaa]

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[sheetz]

Are we talking about me? Do I need to delete a post?

Yeah, we were talking about our posts that were moved to The Edge. I don't know what would happen if you deleted your post, which is the first in the thread.

Nathan Chen issues apology for interview

What are Dave Lease and Jonathan Beyer talking about Nathan in their recent TSL episode? I found nothing offensive in what Nathan said, he answered the question honestly and politely.

www.goldenskate.com

 

[LutzDance]

Usually posts are moved because they are more suitable for a new thread, and within the same sub forum. I’ve never seen posts moved out of FF to the main forum.

I’m going to ask the mod to move these posts back. Hopefully I won’t get banned for making a bid deal out of it.

I also DM'd them asking for the same thing. Hope they'll see it and neither of us gets banned

Also thank you bonita for sharing the video, although I can't help but complain that the channel did the skaters a disservice by switching out their music Nathan really has some nimble turns, nice edge work, and most impressive of all the ability to "disguise" very technical steps with whole body coordination and eloquent delivery of the choreography. Also something I noticed from watching fan cams as well as from the audience seat myself is that Nathan doesn't lose speed on his step sequences. He is not the fastest skater throughout the entire program but the ability to carry speed into those tricky clusters shows that he has the difficult elements under control.

 

[gsk8]

Hey folks,

There are times when the moderating team has to bulk move and this does not always allow time for explanation to each individual. The moderators are volunteers and are already overworked, tired, have real lives, etc.

In this case, the posts were moved to prevent any negativism or derailment in the FF. The FF is not for debates and we wanted to maintain the integrity of the thread overall. By creating a thread in the Edge and moving the posts, we 1) prevented the derailment of the FF (see guidelines below) and 2) opened up the topic for everyone to join in without having to worry about tip-toeing in the FF on this topic.

Fan Fests
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Please refer to the Fan Fest forum introductory post here.

 

[TontoK]

@gsk8 This is a reasonable explanation. Thank you for providing it. I am awestruck at the dedication of our volunteer moderators, who I believe do the very best they can without ill intentions. It is a job I would not have the time or patience to undertake, so I am thankful for those who have stepped up to the plate.

I understand the views of those who wish this decision had not been made, and I support their choice to delete their posts if they wish. I hope they don't... I haven't read anything that is unworthy of inclusion in a broader discussion. That being said, I didn't write those posts and don't get to make that call.