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Oda stopped for DUI

Yes, he means Oksana Baiul - it was only Oksana Grishuk I believe who used the name Pasha for awhile.

As for the adults with him (not sure how old Oda is) it's very difficult to stop someone who wants to drink, and sometimes equally difficult to stop them from driving. The only person responsible for how much someone drinks is the person putting the glass to their lips.
 
Oksana's DUI is really in a different category from all the others mentioned here. She is indeed an alcoholic; her problems with substance abuse were very serious. What's encouraging is that she did eventually learn, did get sober, and now seems to be doing fine.
 
The more I think about this the hairy it becomes.

This was drunk driving, sorry it just was.
However, like almost everything there are levels of offense.
He was certainly not as drunk as he could have been and he was weilding a moped not a Hummer.
On the other hand he acted without thought for others or himself and the end result does not justify the action (hey nobody got hurt so driving drunk isn't any big deal!).

If I am the federation I am up a creek without well a moped. They can't be seen to be easy on offenses not matter how small they turn out to be in the end, yet this is pretty clearly a young man who acted out of youthful ignorance and probably learned a VERY hard lesson. They need for their athletes to be role models (and BTW tough they just are. RANT ON: I have watched enough adults in model roles for children sacrifice to be the best person they could be for the children to know that if you don't like it, get out. Maybe it ain't fair to you, cramping your style 'cause you can't act like a twit in public, but the money, fame and priviledge ought to sooth any sore nerves!!!!! RANT OFF)

Skating ain't like baseball - you can't suspend someone for six games and then let them play out the rest of the season. He has only got a couple of events and some really odd ball rules around those. I wonder if there is a money making event (Japan Open for example) they could yank him from or make him pay a nice fine to a skating community or do some community service time on behalf of the fed or something. He pays a price but not one so stiff as to screw up a whole season! He apologized, make him pay his fine to society and to his supporting sport and move on. Now he does this again and all bets are off, youthful ignorance be darned.
 
pista04 said:
What is this world coming to, lol. First Hilton, then Lohan, now Oda!
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Considering how popular skating is in Japan right now, it looks like Nobu's getting the same amount of media coverage as Lindsay and Paris when they were charged with DUI.

The big difference is at least Nobu admitted he made a serious mistake and is willing to accept responsibility for it, unlike the abovementioned celebrities charged with the same offense in the US. :(

GoldMedalist said:
Again, should smokers not drive if they haven't had a cigarette recently? Because, imo, that's just as "bad" in comparison to this very low amount of BAL in terms of how your brain is functioning.
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Unlike drinking and driving, I've never heard of anyone getting killed or seriously injured in a "smoking and driving" accident.

As much as I like Nobu, I can't condone drinking and driving under any circumstances, and I would rather see a goverment err on the side of being too harsh, as opposed to being too lenient.

I just hope Nobu's learned his lesson and never makes the same mistake again.
 
astimegoesby said:
Unlike drinking and driving, I've never heard of anyone getting killed or seriously injured in a "smoking and driving" accident.
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Of course you wouldn't, they don't record if a person was a smoker or not when a car accident happens. I just KNOW from experience that a smoker who hasn't gotten their fix is way more distracted than someone with a small amount of alcohol in their system. Of course, Oda apparently had 2x as much alcohol in his system than we originally thought.
 
astimegoesby said:
Unlike drinking and driving, I've never heard of anyone getting killed or seriously injured in a "smoking and driving" accident.
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All right, here is another one then. How about a medical intern driving home after a 40 hour shift. The estimate is that 1 sleepless night impairs one's driving ability about as much as 0.1% alcohol. (I'm not making excuses for Oda, I'm just pointing out there are many ways a person can be quite impaired yet still driving legally).
 
GoldMedalist said:
Of course, Oda apparently had 2x as much alcohol in his system than we originally thought.
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Yes but as I posted on fsu

Nobunari is more likely to be alcohol tolerant because he is a skater and has a high percentage of muscle mass

Quote:
http://www.muhlenberg.edu/mgt/presoff/alcohol/studyguide/answers.html
Why do men and women differ in their sensitivity to alcohol?
A second factor is muscle mass; since muscle is highly perfused by blood, having more muscle results in more alcohol staying in your 'body container', resulting in less available for the brain.
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my oncle (a doctor) told me how some people have a natural BAC.
I didn't find any article (I don't know which keywords to put) but here's an interesting post from a forum.

http://flyertalk.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-35127.html
The fact is Alcohol is not a foreign substance to the body. One's own intestinal bacteria produces a small amount of alcohol, table sugar, along with other carbohydrates that we eat, contain alcohol-type molecules (OH). During the fermentation process, sugar is mixed with yeast, and the result is the production of alcohol (or precisely, ethyl alcohol (ETOH), the kind we drink" which is absorbed into our blood.

This means that most, if not all of us, has some amount of alcohol in our body at any given time. In other words if one is to believe MADD's propaganda that the only safe BAC is .00 then all of us are impaired each time we get behind the wheel. That includes you too Mojo.

It has been found that some people can have a natural BAC level as high as .01 or .02 and I suspect in some cases even higher. Got GASS, And that is why there is such a thing as the reliable blood alcohol detectable limit for DUI.
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While he might not have been drunk, he was impaired enough for the police to feel it necessary to pull him over. His test was taken after he slept on the train - not when he took the last sip. So, his alcohol level was probably higher when he got on the train. DUI - Driving Under the Influence vs DWI - Driving While Intoxicated. DWI requires equalling or exceeding the legal limit. Anything that hinders your ability to drive to the point that the police notice is DUI.

Also, Asian generally do not metabolize alcohol in the same manner as people of European descent. Many of my Asian friends become red in the face from just 1/2 a glass of beer. Most women also lack the enzyme that allows men to metabolize alcohol - so, if the male and female are the same size, the male will generally be able to drink twice as much as the woman.

If anything, punishing Oda in this manner should discourage him from acting so indiscretely again. If only Paris, Brittany, Lindsay, Oksana et al had people in their lives who were tough enough to attempt to stop this habit before they risked their lives and those of innocent others.

Also, Oda was on a moped. If he had been an accident, he could have seriously injured himself and lost his ability to skate. So, he wasn't even wise enough to consider the consequences to himself.
 
you have checkpoints in VA???? wow...

yeah Alaska is so backwater we don't do that (heck most of the time they aren't pulled over until they've hit someone and left the scene and the cop saw them do it *smacks forehead*)
 
That's why at the checkpoints, they should test your reflexes (like throwing you a ball) and balance. And then we would know exactly who is impaired or not.
 
Justlooking said:
That's why at the checkpoints, they should test your reflexes (like throwing you a ball) and balance. And then we would know exactly who is impaired or not.
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What if you are just simply aren't co-ordinated and rarely manage to catch balls?!

Ant
 
antmanb said:
What if you are just simply aren't co-ordinated and rarely manage to catch balls?!

Ant
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Maybe you shouldn't be driving risking others lives because of selfish intentions. Why make your lack of ability an issue for others to deal with.

The reason check points came about is because cops are GENERALLY (not all but most) lazy.

And if a world class skater can't perform balance and coordination, he was more "tanked" then let on.

Also I would like to see some studies talking about muscle mass helping "dilute" drinking's effects. I have heard different, as fat being a more diluting factor. Please direct for I would like to know more about this.
 
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SeaniBu said:
Maybe you shouldn't be driving risking others lives because of selfish intentions. Why make your lack of ability an issue for others to deal with.

The reason check points came about is because cops are GENERALLY (not all but most) lazy.

And if a world class skater can't perform balance and coordination, he was more "tanked" then let on.

Also I would like to see some studies talking about muscle mass helping "dilute" drinking's effects. I have heard different, as fat being a more diluting factor. Please direct for I would like to know more about this.
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Your post seems quite hostile when all i was asking was why on earth ask anyone to do that stupid crap you see in US films for testing reflexes when all you need to do is a roadside breathaliser test and the thing will tell you if there is alcohol in your system and whether the level of alcohol in your system is too high.

Throwing me a ball gives you absolutely no indication whatsoever about my sobriety.

Ant
 
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