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Plushenko will honour us with his presence in 2010!

seniorita said:
I m curious to read that report especially for this show since i saw him taking pics with everyone and signing everything staying late, this is not the first time i see him and i never witnessed that behavior, at least to me and my friends he was very polite and warm. Maybe he is rude to rude people.
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Hi, folks! I attended the show in Wolfsburg on 25th of April, and it was great. Want to tell you something about "arrogant" Plushenko: I went to the show with a greek aquaintance of mine who told Evgeni that she`d come over from Greece to see him; so he took his bracelet off and gave it to her. She was sooo delighted. For me that`s a very warmhearted and kind gesture...
 
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Hi, folks! I attended the show in Wolfsburg on 25th of April, and it was great. Want to tell you something about "arrogant" Plushenko: I went to the show with a greek aquaintance of mine who told Evgeni that she`d come over from Greece to see him; so he took his bracelet off and gave it to her. She was sooo delighted. For me that`s a very warmhearted and kind gesture...
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How kind of him to do that! :rock:
 
Doesn't Plushy have to get special dispensation from the ISU by proving he could not skate in the interim because he was busy doing shows?
 
Dont skaters have the right to take a break from isu competitions without losing eligibility?didnt sasha and a bunch of ice skaters that come back in every olympics have shows inbetween?I thought the rule was about skaters who compete in the season and deny a competition to go to a show instead..
He had both knees surgery in summer 2007, only season he could come back was this one that just passed. Maybe someone knows the actual rules, i never thought this was an issue.
 
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seniorita said:
Dont skaters have the right to take a break from isu competitions without losing eligibility?didnt sasha and a bunch of ice skaters that come back in every olympics have shows inbetween?I thought the rule was about skaters who compete in the season and deny a competition to go to a show instead..
He had both knees surgery in summer 2007, only season he could come back was this one that just passed. Maybe someone knows the actual rules, i never thought this was an issue.
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Long before you were born senorita, figure skating competition included a law of being amateurish - nothing, not even working non skating in a rink which was consideed making money and therefor non amateur. But that changed, and yes, professional show skating is nowperrmitted

Nothing wrong with Sasha and Evgeni doing shows. What was wrong was that during that period, they did not skate ISU competitions. They must submit a request to skate in the GPs since there were no injuries preventing them from show skating. I'm sure they will get it permission, but would Stephane Lambiel? I doubt it. He has two World Champion gold medal and a silver Oly medal. But then again, he is not seeking anything at this point in time. Look for a TBA at COR.

None of this has anything to do with the Olys because the Olys will accept selections from the Federations.
 
seniorita said:
Dont skaters have the right to take a break from isu competitions without losing eligibility? didnt sasha and a bunch of ice skaters that come back in every olympics have shows inbetween?
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As Joe says, the rule is just about the Grand Prix. Plushenko, Sasha, or anyone else can come back for the Olympics provided they are sent by their federations (and also provided they did not do any non-ISU sanctioned competitions, which I don't think there are any anymore.)

For the Grand Prix, the rules are that to be eligible you have to fall into one of the listed categories, based on last season. This means either finish in the top twelve at Worlds, finish in the top 24 in ISU world standings, or in the top 75 season's best scores (plus a few others, like Worlds Junior and Junior Grand Prix medalists who are moving up to seniors).

Athletes who did not compate last season do not fall into any of these categories, so they cannot do the Grand Prix -- but they can still do the Olympics, Worlds Championships and other competitions.

Except that -- Cup of Russia could invite Plushenko and Skate America could invite Sasha to their own Grand Prix event.

Then there is the new rule that Joe mentions (post 345) in the post previous, about skaters coming back from injury. By any common sense reading of the rule, neither Plushenko or Sasha (or Michelle Kwan) qualifies for a GP event outside their own country. But maybe someone ike Daisuke Takahashi could qualify.
 
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Athletes who did not compate last season do not fall into any of these categories, so they cannot do the Grand Prix -- but they can still do the Olympics, Worlds Championships and other competitions.
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i had that in mind thats why i got confused before, joe i thought you meant that they need to justify why they skate in shows,with no injury and not in ISU competitions, i didnt got that the question was only for grand prix events but for any competition. I had never heard of it before and it seemed brand new information!(scary one :p)
I know about losing eligibility when they skated to pros until some years ago, wasnt that also a debate about yagudin if he wanted to come back because he had participated in a pro competition?

I dont know why they would be different to lambiel, i suppose they would not accept the injury reason neither from plush or sasha, and although lambiel was injured this year he still skated in numerous shows, so it is the same for him, only misfortune for lambiel if he wanted to do one, is that he has no grand prix event organised by his federation to invite him.
I knew plush cannot use the exception injury or no fault of their own with surgery or not because it is not the case like Takahashi, and to be honest i m more than sure he would not do any other grand prix even if he could, but only Cop if they invite him, if he accepts even that ..and if he comes back..lol, thats lots of Ifs.:laugh:

as far as i know plushy has not mentioned anything specific for grand prix, but if i see at the end of may a Tba in Cop i will jump on a cloud!

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Long before you were born senorita, figure skating competition included a law of being amateurish - nothing...
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lol, that sounded like the beginning of a fairytale!:party2:
 
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He he - I think all figure skating outside of the comps are fairy tales. :laugh:

But Sasha and Evgeni are eligible to skate the Olys based on their results in 2006. No problem except their Federations have to recommend them as part of the team. No real problem for Evgeni but Sasha has to go through US Nationals to qualify, otherwise many questions raised.

Evgeni will skate the Olys easy if he wants to.
 
i think he needs to pass also from russian nationals, otherwise in russia also there will be problems, especially since voronov and lutai are capable to go, lutai seemed to start having good results this season. I think (i hope) he wont land his feet directly in vancouver. It wont look good.
But i dont know about grand prix, on one hand he needs to go to competitions to test his programs but on the other hand cop is before nationals, he will want to compete first time after 3 1/2 years in a grand prix facing international skaters?i dunno.Euros seem better opportunity.
He is scheduled to 4 training camps and melisa and dennis said they will begin choreographing him again first days of june, so he will know his condition by summer. ah automn is still far:frown:
 
He should go to CoR first to test himself. If Russian Nationals is like US Nationals, it will be more important than a GP event.
 
My impression is that Russian nationals are usually not much of a factor at all in chosing the Russian World and Olympic teams.

Alexei Yagudin routinely skipped Russian Nationals (he won four World Championships and an Olympic gold medal, but he never won the National Championship of his own country.)

Instead, the Russian Federation (Piseev) just sends who they want to. If there is any test event, it is Europeans. All Plushenko really has to do is convince the powers that be that he is ready for Vancouver -- the more so since Russian does not have a medal contender in men's this year.
 
^^ True. But I am thinking maybe Russian Nationals is a better place than CoR where he can make a statement to all the Russian people, No?
 
I think in yagudin years he was the world champion.. etc, it was normal to skip his nationals, while as you said for selection of skaters russian nationals are not as important as usa ones, piseev(:disagree:) is not very encouraging for plushy comeback and since he has not competed 3 seasons, i doubt he will send him directly without passing tests. And it will cause big complains and stuff, while i suspect Plushy will come back only if he is on form so he will be miles ahead from voronov and lutai, it wont be fair for the other two to skip nationals.
 
no but i m glad you laugh anyway.:)
i wrote Plushy will come back only if he is on form (meaning level of his olympic status), then he will be miles ahead of the other 2 russians, it is common sense and simple mathematics.
 
I don't have time to read thru this thread. Has Plushenko made an official announcement that he will return to competitive skating?
 
why? it is only 24 pages:laugh:
yes he has made official announcement and resumed training in beginning february, cancelled his tour and did only some shows, he looked in very good form, but thats all for now :rolleye:
 
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