Bennett, exactly that one.
Practice photos and videos [TEB 2008]
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I like this name best. I agree it's descriptive. I don't even like that spin anyway, whoever does it. It LOOKS broken, IMO.Another Takahiko picture:
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/photo/20081113-5267610-1-L.jpg
But personally, I'm more fond of the term "broken camel". Like "a pearl spin" it nicely describes how the spin actually looks like.
One more pic of Takahiko.
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20081114-00000004-reu_k-spo.view-000
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20081114-00000004-reu_k-spo.view-000
But why are YOU worried about this? I guess if TAT and Mao decide that she should jump two triple axels, there's certainly some reasoning behind this (or any other) decision. Or do you think they determine the jumps layout by tossing a coin?
Wow, suddenly a Daisuk-ish pic from this shy, reserved boy
BTW, I'm a bit worried about his nerves because he seems to be getting lots of media attention now. Even though he is participating in this event w Mao, the media is not all about Mao, but a lot of talks about Kozuka, too, whereas they tended to focus almost exclusively on Miki when she participated in SA with Yukari.
But why are YOU worried about this? I guess if TAT and Mao decide that she should jump two triple axels, there's certainly some reasoning behind this (or any other) decision. Or do you think they determine the jumps layout by tossing a coin?
Because I want Mao to do well.
The fact is that Mao has kind of a history of biting off more than she can chew at times. Remember the quad at Junior worlds. Or the Triple Axel in brakets in 2006/2007 that might have cost her the world championships???
I like Mao and I'd like to see her do well, and it seems like sometimes she goes for the risk instead of going for what she can do consistently...Maybe they are hoping if she does it more often her triple axel will get more consistent? Who knows, but I fear it could be really disasterous for her too... Because she only landed one clean triple axel last year...
It's one thing to take the risk once (it's worth it for her) it's another to do it twice. I just think it's not necessary for her to take this risk.
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But why are YOU worried about this? I guess if TAT and Mao decide that she should jump two triple axels, there's certainly some reasoning behind this (or any other) decision. Or do you think they determine the jumps layout by tossing a coin?
2 triple axels?!:scratch: I just wonder if she could land one clean in competetion
anyway, nice to see her practice vedio. I'm more earger to see her lutz( did she finaly do that? ) vedio than anything else
anybody pls provide some other skaters' vedios?? I prefer Joubert, Caroline and Joannie
2 triple axels?!:scratch: I just wonder if she could land one clean in competetion
anyway, nice to see her practice vedio. I'm more earger to see her lutz( did she finaly do that? ) vedio than anything else
anybody pls provide some other skaters' vedios?? I prefer Joubert, Caroline and Joannie
I agree that two 3As sound very ambitious given that her 3A was pretty inconsistent during the last two seasons. But I guess the consistency in her 3A may have gotten better during the off season? Yet, she's not gonna do it anyway here, according to reports. I saw videos on her lutz a while ago and it looked good. TAT said that she nailed it 7 out of 10 or something.
Perhaps there aren't many practice videos on other skaters out there? But practice reports would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
ETA
This year, I am worried that her tano jumps may get downgraded as Yukari's were when she did something similar at Worlds. I also don't think that CoP is rewarding difficult entrance or difficult air position too much.
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Probably I made myself a bit unclear. I don't mind you worrying about this or any other matter (which is naturally). I just don't see why would you question Tarasova's and Mao's competence in this kind of matters.
You know better than TAT what, when and why Mao should jump? Or maybe you think that TAT considers all this like some kind of joke (while you really care)? No, she doesn't. And you don't know better.
Whether Mao jumps this incredible layout or not, if there were not enough reasons to include two 3A in the FS, they wouldn't be included. Can you argue this point? Then why would you say:
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P.s.
The last question is a rhetorical one.
I remember Yukari did it with a triple at Worlds, while Mao does it with a double toe and a double loop. She takes less risk of UR called.
In the last two seasons, she had a growth spurt at the beginning of the season. Her consistency improved as the season went on. Starting from GPF, it became quite solid.
She popped it at Nats, because she was skating in a different pair of boots and according to he media the jumps just weren't happening in the practice. And at Worlds it was a wacko accident - the same thing happened to Nobunari Oda on 3A, or Daisuke Takahashi and Tatsuki Machida on 3L, and they have those jumps pretty consistent. But the landed it at JSC amd Japan Open, in addition to GPF and 4CC.
As for Worlds 2007 - I really don't think that the brackets hurt Mao any. To win, it would be enough if she got... a lvl2 layback. I think what hurt her more at both Worlds was busy choreo that make it easy for her to miss the rotations when she went with the flow of the music and did not count rotations.
The difference being, Yukari's jumps get often downgraded anyway. Mao's looked better than before she started doing 'Tano variation.
Nobunari did a 3S-2T with arm behind his back at his last Worlds and it was scored just fine. Nanoha Sato got bonus points for her 'Tano 2Lz and ended up placing fairly high (5, IIRC) at Japanese Junior Nationals 2006 in spite of not having even a single triple jump in that competition.
Thanks guys for your insights! Well, it's been a while since I saw her 3A combo and if it's even in tano, it would be like wow to me. I also remember that she got downgrade on 2T at the Japanese nationals where she did 3A-2T. So this made me worried a bit, on top of the relatively low success rate of a solo 3A. Besides, having all these intricate details make things more difficult than it may be needed. But perhaps that's TAT's programs and I guess Mao could live up to that.
Ugh, isn't the point of this board for us all to be arm chair coaches/judges and to analayze the skaters and what they do... Of course Tarasova and Mao know better than I do. (I'd suggest Mao's coaches in Japan would know better than Tarasova about what Mao's consistent at.)
All I know is that
1. Mao's triple axel has been inconsistent in competition in the past.
2. Mao has had a history in the past of deciding she wants to take risks and challenge herself... Whether or not she's consistent with these things.
Mao only hit one clean triple axel last season. At GPF, she double footed it. I don't consider that jump solid, if she's having freak accidents, popping etc, under pressure. It's one thing to land it in practice, it's another to land it in competition.
And as for the brackets, once again do we want to go over Mao's track record with triple axel's in brackets. It was one of those unnecessary risks.
I like Mao a lot, but once again I fear unnecessary risks may end up costing her.
Please don't get me wrong, if I were Mao I'd totally be working towards doing 2 triple axels in the free program. But I would first want to be consistent with the jump in competition before I added a second one.
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According to the article, Mao's practice didn't go well in terms of the jumps -- she missed a few : Mao had been falling on the 3A (not the combo) and being somewhat unstable on her jumps. Mao (implicitly) attributed that to her pre-competition nerves. After all, this is her first competition of the season. It makes me nervous, Hang in there Mao!
Refer to the article http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/winter/news/20081113-OYT1T00736.htm
Refer to the article http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/winter/news/20081113-OYT1T00736.htm
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Should Oda stop attempting 3A (freaky accident, loss of consistency when in new boots) and Takahashi... well, nearly all of his jumps (multiple freaky accidents, total mess of a program when in new boots)? OK.
So what is really the problem? She plans one here. And it wasn't even her who mentioned the future plans of two 3A - it was Tatiana, and the media took the ball and ran with it.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mao skated a watered down LP here (one 3A, one 3-3, maybe no 3S yet), to skate a clean, comfortable program and start the season on a good note.
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According to a different poster here at GS, Mao in her program run-through missed just the first Axel (and landed it later in combination) as well as the rest of the jumps.
I wonder if the initial troubles could have been caused by the ice being soft, as mentioned in the icenetwork article:
"We had a motorcycle racing show in the arena last Sunday," an official explained. "As soon as Sunday night, trucks loaded with sand left the arena. When they uncovered the ice beneath it on Monday morning, they realized that there were some colored spots on it, so they had the poor idea of covering them with white paint. The paint floated on the ice and now it prevents it to freeze."
http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081113&content_id=55579&vkey=ice_news
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