Thanks for the answer! That definitely clears up my wondering about it.
Can anyone tell me what move do you call where Alina turns 3 times on her last spin then goes into a broken leg into a i-position?
Any additional element or elements exceeding the prescribed numbers will not be counted in the results of a participant. Only the first attempt (or allowed number of attempts) of an element will be taken into account.
If an extra jump(s) is executed only the individual jump which is not according to the requirements will have no value. The jumps are considered in the order of execution.
How can you tell if your skates have broken down? I have had the edea chorus for 1.5 years, and recently it started to loosen up very quickly. The ankle part of the boots feel softer than before but the remaining parts feel the same. I’m not sure if I should just replace the laces or the skates as well? FYI, I skate around 3-4 hours per week and weigh about 50kg. Thanks![]()
They may have broken down. Are they majorly creased at the ankles, do you feel like they don't support you, is there a skate pro you can take them to in order to get them checked out. It's hard to tell you if they are really broken down w/o seeing them myself. Also, depending on many factors 1.5 years can be a decent life run for boots. There are so many factors though.
No. Senior TES can only be earned at Senior competitions. Scores earned at Junior internationals don't count for Seniors, only Juniors.
This rule was changed two years ago and was a major reason for half the angst over the US men's team selection for 2017.
(Now going back to look up results from 2017 to try to work out what people were complaining about...)
Vincent finished ahead of Jason at Nationals but did not have his Senior TES. Jason was (correctly) chosen for Worlds even though Vincent had time to get the TES (which he duly did).
… That's rough for any skaters who have moved up from Juniors, but haven't been able to compete in any Senior competition yet through injury. ...
(Now going back to look up results from 2017 to try to work out what people were complaining about...) ...
Please note:
The full story re Vincent is more complicated than karne's brief summary/opinion.
It was not a black-and-white situation.
And injury was part of the controversy.
As karne mentioned, 2016-17 was the first season that the ISU rule went into effect that only scores from senior internationals would count toward reaching senior TES minimums.
Because of injury, Vincent Zhou had withdrawn after the senior SP at 2016 Golden Spin … which meant that going into 2017 U.S. Nats, he did not yet have the TES minimums for Worlds, although his junior international scores did easily exceed them.
For 2017 Worlds, the U.S. had only two slots for men. Vincent placed second at Nats, with a large point margin over Jason Brown in third.
As usual, USFS within hours announced its selections for Worlds and Junior Worlds. And as usual, gave no explanation for its decisions.
USFS selected Jason for the second slot for Worlds, and named Vincent as first alternate for Worlds.
USFS selected Vincent for Junior Worlds.
(In 2016, USFS had selected Nathan both for Worlds and Junior Worlds, so selecting Vincent for both would not have been unprecedented.)
Lots of discussion ensued on GS. Things got quite heated.
Among the assorted opinions on GS:
- Some felt that Vincent should have been selected for Worlds.
- Some believed that Vincent was ineligible for selection for Worlds because he did not yet have the senior TES minimums. Whether or not USFS really had such a rule was a matter of strong disagreement.
- Some on GS believed that Jason justifiably was selected on the basis of his body of work, and that USFS still would have selected Jason even if Vincent already had the senior TES minimums.
Later outcomes that reinforced certain opinions:
- USFS did send Vincent to Bavarian Open in February, where he had no problem earning the senior TES minimums. (And he won the gold.) So if Vincent had been selected for Worlds, he would have had the senior minimums in time.
- Vincent won Junior Worlds, which for some became "proof" of sorts that USFS should not have selected him for Worlds.
- At 2017 Worlds, Nathan and Jason together did earn three spots for 2018 OWG and for 2018 Worlds, which for some became "proof" of sorts that Jason was the only "correct" choice.
Thank you for the more detailed explanation. As ever, it was highly informative.
You know, it just shows that making selections for the Junior and Senior World Championships straight after Nationals is too early. It is better to wait until after the EYOF for Juniors, and after Europeans / Four Nationals for Seniors. Then the Feds can get a better picture of who would be the best to send. Plus, it would give skaters that are in the position that Vincent was in (i.e. prevented from competing internationally in the autumn through injury) the chance to get the minimum TES's they require.
Can I just ask another question based on what you said in your reply?
You pointed out that Nathan was selected for both Junior and Senior Worlds in 2016. I thought that there was a rule saying that you could not compete at both World Championships in the same season. Am I imagining things, or was that a rule that was brought in afterwards? Or was it a proposal that didn't get approved?
As it turned out, Nathan competed at neither because of injury. So, this is just a hypothetical question.
Thank you again for the reply.
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