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Random observations throughout the Olympics

Spirit

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A thread for random observations throughout the Olympics -- little bits and bobs that don't fit into other threads. I'll start.


1. The streak
The longest winning streak in Olympic history continues, and now stands at 11-and-a-half.

2. Ancient rivalries
NBC tried to play up the Yao / Vasiliev connection from when they competed against each other as athletes, then seemed to say, "Ah, who cares?" and dropped that storyline completely. One of Yao's pairs beat one of Vasiliev's pairs in 2002, but this time, it was a Vasiliev pair beating Yao's entire army.

3. I'm so pathetic
My deepest, humblest apologies, but no matter how hard I try, I cannot remember the names of the two younger Chinese pairs or keep them straight as to which is which. I love Shen & Zhao, but I just can't remember the others.

4. If a nation sweeps a podium, you may insert your own curling joke here
Remove T&M from the equation and China (China!) sweeps the podium. Remove T&M from the equation and one coach sweeps the podium. That's just breathtaking.

5. We just have to be different
The Chinese pairs costumes all had the same theme and similar design (through both the long and short programs), except for the couple who won silver -- they wore white during the long program. Rebels!

6. Pretty
Xue Shen's skirt was beautiful.

7. Should we put Rena on the snowboarding team?
It wasn't just that they did the throw 3A, it was the way they did it. Gorgeous!

8. The other streak
Tamara Moskvina's streak of getting one of her teams on the podium in six straight Olympics came to an end. However, since she used to coach Oleg Vasiliev, can we say that she grandmothered T&M onto the podium?

9. Pick up where you left off
Does any other sport on the planet allow its athletes to continue from the point at which they left off due to an injury or accident? I can't think of any. I'm not sure that even gymnastics does that. (I'm still glad I got to see them skate after their crash, though.)

10. Future looking bright?
I can't remember how many times I watched a performance and thought to myself, "They're young, talented, and need more polish. This couple should be awesome in 2010!" In Torino, I saw an awful lot of young potential waiting to be realized.

11. If ice dancers perform and no one watches, are they still loud and colorful?
My annual science fiction convention is always in the middle of February, which means every 4 years I miss the middle six days of the Winter Olympics. I'll DVR the important stuff (ice dance), but I won't have a chance to view it until after the Olympics are over, and I'd just like to take a moment to whine and cry about that.

12. Would it start a North American war if we did this?
I hereby propose that we kidnap Jamie & David from Canadian television and force them to do commentary for NBC, replacing Bezic/Button/Hammond. (If it's any consolation, I also propose that we do not force the Bezic/Button/Hammond team onto the Canadian audience. I mean, stealing Jamie & David would be bad enough, but really, to take it a step further would be just plain mean.)

ETA: I am mistaken. Jamie & David are not working for the CBC (and yes, I'm aware that they are working with NBC, but not as commentators). So, evidently, we can kidnap them with no international repercussions.


All other random observations welcome.
 
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Spirit said:
9. Pick up where you left off
Does any other sport on the planet allow its athletes to continue from the point at which they left off due to an injury or accident? I can't think of any. I'm not sure that even gymnastics does that. (I'm still glad I got to see them skate after their crash, though.)

In tennis, can't you call for abreak to treat an injury and then go back and carry on...in fact in tennis you can call a break and go to the toilet and then pick up where you left off!!

I don't suppose that's the same thing though. To be fair i can't think of another situation (and think its pretty rare in figure skating) where someone hurts themselves so badly so that they can't carry on and then shake off the shock and pain and continue.

Can anyone who watched in Lillehammer remember what happened with the Woeztel and Steuer fall - the one where i think they're about to do spirals and he's holding her hands, she hits a toe pick and dives chin first in to the ice...did they just leave the ice or did they get two minutes and carry on?

Ant
 
8. The other streak
Tamara Moskvina's streak of getting one of her teams on the podium in six straight Olympics came to an end. However, since she used to coach Oleg Vasiliev, can we say that she grandmothered T&M onto the podium?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
Spirit said:
12. Would it start a North American war if we did this?
I hereby propose that we kidnap Jamie & David from Canadian television and force them to do commentary for NBC, replacing Bezic/Button/Hammond. (If it's any consolation, I also propose that we do not force the Bezic/Button/Hammond team onto the Canadian audience. I mean, stealing Jamie & David would be bad enough, but really, to take it a step further would be just plain mean.)

Spirit, Jamie and David are not working on canadian tv. The commentators for CBC are Underhill and Martini. Jamie and David are already working with NBC! :laugh: They did some closing commentaries on pairs SP and pairs LP on late night shows, with Tom Hammond. And the "Olympic Ice" show they are involved in is broadcast on USA network which is affiliated to NBC. I really like their input. They do know what they're talking about!!

Loved your post, Spirit! :)
 
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3. I'm so pathetic
My deepest, humblest apologies, but no matter how hard I try, I cannot remember the names of the two younger Chinese pairs or keep them straight as to which is which. I love Shen & Zhao, but I just can't remember the others.
Yes, you are! :) Pang and Tong are the slender, graceful ones (think gazelle and cheetah). She looks great this year, not so startlingly thin as she has in the past -- or maybe she just looks super in pants! He is perhaps the most fluid men's pair guy in the business.

The other ones, the silver medalists, she of the legs so flexible that she can fall hard in a complete forward split with her left leg all twisted around at an angle that I wouldn't have thought was anatonmically possible -- then get up and knock off a double Axel/triple toe combo (if only Michelle or Irina could do that particular combo -- Sasha tried it at Trophee Bompard, but fell) -- and he of the crazy-rhinocerous-in-a-china-shop macho physique and temperament -- are Zhang and Zhang (no relation).

4. If a nation sweeps a podium, you may insert your own curling joke here
Aaagh. Norway just beat Canada in extra innings (I mean, a tenth "end"), when the Canadian guy made two horrible mistakes on his last throws in both the ninth and the tenth ends.

6. Pretty
Xue Shen's skirt was beautiful.
:love: The perfect Madame Butterfly.

10. Future looking bright?
I can't remember how many times I watched a performance and thought to myself, "They're young, talented, and need more polish. This couple should be awesome in 2010!" In Torino, I saw an awful lot of young potential waiting to be realized.
Maybe, but in 2010 there will be a new crop of youngsters that we haven't even heard of yet. Mao Asada, Yu-Na Kim, Kimmie Meissner and Katy Taylor will be the old ladies trying to coax one last great performance out of their creaky bones.

MM
 
antmanb said:
In tennis, can't you call for abreak to treat an injury and then go back and carry on...in fact in tennis you can call a break and go to the toilet and then pick up where you left off!!
You're right! I'm even a tennis fan, and I completely forgot about that! I'm so ashamed. (Tennis player Martina Hingis once even took a toilet break during a match, was gone for longer than she should have been, and came back onto the court with a different hairstyle. That just trumps anything, ever.)
 
FrenchLady said:
Spirit, Jamie and David are not working on canadian tv. The commentators for CBC are Underhill and Martini. Jamie and David are already working with NBC! :laugh: They did some closing commentaries on pairs SP and pairs LP on late night shows, with Tom Hammond. And the "Olympic Ice" show they are involved in is broadcast on USA network which is affiliated to NBC. I really like their input. They do know what they're talking about!!

Loved your post, Spirit! :)
Yes, they're doing work for NBC (believe me, I'm taping everything), but they're not part of the main commentary team.

And I thought I had read somewhere that they were doing commentary for CBC. Ah, well.
 
Frau Muller said:
Maybe this will be the subject of today's "Moskvina Minute" on Olympic Ice?
"If you make pancake, and is good six times, sometimes, seventh pancake, is no good. Some people have tradition of resting on seventh day; I have tradition of resting every seventh Olympics.

"Was I any good this time?"
 
One more quick observation: Alyona Savchenko is a SUPER HOT BABE! However, when she raised her arms above her head to wave to the crowd when walking to the K&C, we got broadsided with the sight of her rib cage outlined against her costume.

I'm so tired of seeing the rib cages of female figure skaters.
 
=SpiritI hereby propose that we kidnap Jamie & David from Canadian television and force them to do commentary for NBC, replacing Bezic/Button/Hammond. (If it's any consolation, I also propose that we do not force the Bezic/Button/Hammond team onto the Canadian audience. I mean, stealing Jamie & David would be bad enough, but really, to take it a step further would be just plain mean.)
Oh Please No!!! I would much rather have Uncle Dick any day, I will even take Scott Hamilton.

Dee
 
Mathman said:
Maybe, but in 2010 there will be a new crop of youngsters that we haven't even heard of yet. Mao Asada, Yu-Na Kim, Kimmie Meissner and Katy Taylor will be the old ladies trying to coax one last great performance out of their creaky bones.
Pair champions don't usually come out of nowhere; I can't even think of pairs OGM teen champions other than Gordeeva & Grinkov in 1988.
 
Spirit said:
"If you make pancake, and is good six times, sometimes, seventh pancake, is no good. Some people have tradition of resting on seventh day; I have tradition of resting every seventh Olympics.

"Was I any good this time?"

I like! :agree:
 
Dee4707 said:
Oh Please No!!! I would much rather have Uncle Dick any day, I will even take Scott Hamilton.

Dee
But Dee...Dee...I promise you, my proposal to steal Jamie and David is just that -- a proposal. It won't become a rule.

Trust me. ;)
 
Spirit said:
One more quick observation: Alyona Savchenko is a SUPER HOT BABE! However, when she raised her arms above her head to wave to the crowd when walking to the K&C, we got broadsided with the sight of her rib cage outlined against her costume.

I'm so tired of seeing the rib cages of female figure skaters.

She's pretty but someone needs to hide her fake tan from her....she's an oompa-loompa in the making!

Ant
 
Dee4707 said:
Oh Please No!!! I would much rather have Uncle Dick any day, I will even take Scott Hamilton.

Dee


I agree! I find Jamie and David a tad dull in their commentary. I like Dick Button and his curtain comments.
 
antmanb said:
She's pretty but someone needs to hide her fake tan from her....she's an oompa-loompa in the making!

Ant

Ooh, I agree!!! Her fake n'bake bugs me a lot, I seriously can't enjoy their skating because I'm distracted by her odd color. I know I'm being mean and superficial, but it really does bug me. And then add to that her boots don't even match her fake n'bake.
 
Spirit said:
A thread for random observations throughout the Olympics -- little bits and bobs that don't fit into other threads. I'll start.


[My deepest, humblest apologies, but no matter how hard I try, I cannot remember the names of the two younger Chinese pairs or keep them straight as to which is which. I love Shen & Zhao, but I just can't remember the others.



12. Would it start a North American war if we did this?
I hereby propose that we kidnap Jamie & David from Canadian television and force them to do commentary for NBC, replacing Bezic/Button/Hammond. (If it's any consolation, I also propose that we do not force the Bezic/Button/Hammond team onto the Canadian audience. I mean, stealing Jamie & David would be bad enough, but really, to take it a step further would be just plain mean.)

ETA: I am mistaken. Jamie & David are not working for the CBC (and yes, I'm aware that they are working with NBC, but not as commentators). So, evidently, we can kidnap them with no international repercussions.


All other random observations welcome.

Oh Please! I think Sandra & Scott together are bad enough. Thank goodness for Dick Button, but will he be around in 2010 to commentate?

P.S. The two chinese pairs are Pang &Tong and Zhang & Zhang. You only have to remember 'ang' and add a couple of letters of alphabet before that (although it could result in a misspelling of Tong's name).

Vash
 
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