Russian Qualifiers and other important competitions

[witcher]

I'm trying so hard to understand Russian fs events pyramid, but I still can't figure out couple of things:

1. What are the age limits for Russian Junior Championships (Pervenstvo)?
2. If they are no age limits for Russian Junior Championships (Pervenstvo), can (in theory) 5yo win it?
3. The pyramid looks logical:
Seniors (Chempionat) for 14yo+ -> Juniors (Pervenstvo) for ↑???↑ -> Younger Age (Mladshii Vozrast) for 11-13yo, except this:

Nationals Elder Age - two years younger than Juniors, i.e. reached 11 but not reached 17 at 01 Jul 2014.

It just doesn't fit! :scratch:

 

[NaVi]

There are skaters who skate in both events... there's an overlap in the couple years before eligibility for skating in the junior grand prix.

 

[hanca]

I'm trying so hard to understand Russian fs events pyramid, but I still can't figure out couple of things:

1. What are the age limits for Russian Junior Championships (Pervenstvo)?
2. If they are no age limits for Russian Junior Championships (Pervenstvo), can (in theory) 5yo win it?
3. The pyramid looks logical:
Seniors (Chempionat) for 14yo+ -> Juniors (Pervenstvo) for ↑???↑ -> Younge Age (Mladshii Vozrast) for 11-13yo, except this:

It just doesn't fit! :scratch:

It took me also a while to figure out why they have so many nationals. Eventually someone who used to skate in Russian system explained that the Russian championat is like senior nationals, the perevenstvo is like our junior nationals, then the younger age nationals is like our novice nationals (with two different age categories - older and younger and the last nationals (older age) is additional junior nationals, a bit like B nationals. This is usually much lower standard than the 'normal' nationals because those who did reasonably well in other competitions don't need to do that, but it is one more opportunity to get on the Russian team.

 

[stryke]

Nugumanova isn't on the warmup list or scoreboard. I hope she isn't injured.

http://fsrussia.ru/results/1415/specprogramma1415/SEG007.HTM

 

[witcher]

Nugumanova isn't on the warmup list or scoreboard. I hope she isn't injured.

http://fsrussia.ru/results/1415/specprogramma1415/SEG007.HTM

:scowl:

 

[witcher]

the last nationals (older age) is additional junior nationals, a bit like B nationals. This is usually much lower standard than the 'normal' nationals because those who did reasonably well in other competitions don't need to do that, but it is one more opportunity to get on the Russian team.

That's exactly what I thought! :agree:

 

[NaVi]

Current results page: http://fsrussia.ru/results/1415/specprogramma1415/index.htm

2014: Was not mirrored... I'm going to start submitting results pages to archive.org from now on.
2013: https://web.archive.org/web/20140227034557/http://fsrussia.ru/upl/results/1213/zhuk2013/index.htm
2012: https://web.archive.org/web/20140227035211/http://fsrussia.ru/upl/results/1112/zhuk12/index.htm

Final results for every year till 2003 are recorded here: http://www.fskate.ru/info/competitions/17/

 

[Polycon]

2014: http://old.fsrussia.ru/upl/results/1314/specprogramma1314/index.htm

 

[witcher]

Gubanova is first after the elements!
Short program of girls older group is today.


Videos of younger age group are already uploaded:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheFSRussia/videos

 

[paulusfr]

Oh my goddess! Gubanova received 41.48 by TES in SP :shocked:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSI0CWc2t8M

 

[MsLiinaLii]

Oh my goddess! Gubanova received 41.48 by TES in SP :shocked:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSI0CWc2t8M

Oh my, she is amazing! These jumps,spins, SS! Just wow!

 

[paulusfr]

Girls, older age
Results after Elements and SP, 8 of 26

Pl Name Points Elements SP SP_video
1 Anastasia Gubanova 123.76 1 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSI0CWc2t8M
2 Alina Solovieva 109.63 3 2
3 Ekaterina Mitrofanova 109.59 2 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdAAK7LpL38
4 Alice Fedichkina 100.81 4 10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqc08Uausq0
5 Anna Tarusina 99.43 7 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P4lzJC1kbY
6 Ekaterina Kurakova 97.41 9 6
7 Sofia Samodurova 97.37 8 7
8 Alice Lozko 95.69 12 4

Full standings http://fsrussia.ru/results/1415/specprogramma1415/SEG008.HTM
Other videos a bit later there http://www.youtube.com/user/TheFSRussia

 

[pororocheburashka]

Oh my, she is amazing! These jumps,spins, SS! Just wow!

Anastasia Gubanova is from another planet!
Considering her age just respect.

 

[paulusfr]

Yeah, Solovieva, Mitrofanova, Fedichkina, and many other girls, aren't just good, they're amazing, very promising skaters! But Gubanova... this is absolutely ANOTHER level.

 

[invisiblespiral]

Random question, but where's Nugumanova? Is she just not skating here?

 

[witcher]

I wrote it many times: Nugumanova is fantastic, talented and adorable, but Gubanova has "IT" factor. Elegant, graceful and captivating. Superstar in the making, she will shoot the lights out, if puberty let her shine.

 

[NaVi]

Stanislava Konstantinova is not on the start list for the Gardena Spring Trophy. I thought it was odd she'd be skating at the event considering she'd have to skate at the elder nationals in a few days.

 

[stryke]

Random question, but where's Nugumanova? Is she just not skating here?

She withdrew due to illness.

 

[Sandpiper]

Oh my goddess! Gubanova received 41.48 by TES in SP :shocked:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSI0CWc2t8M

The program is still too understated for my tastes, but holy crap, those jumps, those spins, that fluidity of skating. :shocked: And her Rippon is beautiful--a work of art, not a point-getting exercise.

She withdrew due to illness.

:hopelessness:

 

[Meoima]

Gubanova's coach, Urmanov is moving to Moscow, isn't it? Does that mean she will move to Moscow along with him?