Sasha Cohen book out March 29

[Mathman]

But don't you notice that so called "passion" comes out only when certain fans insist on being negative? Or when there's a misunderstanding? I think what the fans don't quite understand is that being a non-fan doesn't mean you can't be passionate. Non-fan only means that you don't particularly LIKE a skater. That's all. So the only difference is that the passion doesn't come from a bias!

(?) Red Dog, if you don't like any of the skaters and don't care who wins, what exactly is it that you are passionate about? Are you saying that you "just want to skate and have fun?"

I completely disagree that passion for the sport comes from negativity. To me, it comes from magical and inspirational moments that paradoxically both rouse the fighting spirit and soothe the tortured soul. Like when the heel of Michelle's boot broke just minutes before her qualifying performance at 2001 Worlds, so her Dad hammered it back on with a ten-penny nail and she went out and gave the best performance of the Black Swan ever!

Are you ready for some figure skating?!!!

Mathman

 

[millie]

(?) Red Dog, if you don't like any of the skaters and don't care who wins, what exactly is it that you are passionate about? Are you saying that you "just want to skate and have fun?"

I completely disagree that passion for the sport comes from negativity. To me, it comes from magical and inspirational moments that paradoxically both rouse the fighting spirit and soothe the tortured soul. Like when the heel of Michelle's boot broke just minutes before her qualifying performance at 2001 Worlds, so her Dad hammered it back on with a ten-penny nail and she went out and gave the best performance of the Black Swan ever! :

Are you ready for some figure skating?!!!

Mathman

Mathman, here's another one!!!During the Olympic 2002, Sasha nearly missed her chance at going for the gold because of extra-tight security, Sasha's tights were lost at one of the five security points she had to pass through and didn't notice it until she was dressing for the long program. Fortunately, Fumie Suguri lent Sasha her tights---Now that's something isn't it.
(She asked Michelle for a loan of her tights and Michelle said "NO WAY GIRL" --just joking on this part)

Now I'm ready for some figure skating:

We're ready for figure skating

 

[Mathman]

Now that's what I'm talking about. Fumie rocks!

MM

 

[attyfan]

Mathman, here's another one!!!During the Olympic 2002, Sasha nearly missed her chance at going for the gold because of extra-tight security, Sasha's tights were lost at one of the five security points she had to pass through and didn't notice it until she was dressing for the long program. Fortunately, Fumie Suguri lent Sasha her tights---Now that's something isn't it.
(Now I'm ready for some figure skating:

We're ready for figure skating

I agree that Fumie rocks!! (Speaking of Fumie incidents, though, I recall reading when Fumie won the GPF that she got help with her triple lutz from Michelle Kwan, when Michelle was in Japan for her first Worlds back in 1994.)

 

[Doggygirl]

I'm Volunteering...

...to become the Official Goldenskate Boxing Promoter. I'm proposing a showdown of Sasha haters, MK haters, Irina haters, and other haters for the elimination rounds. Then when the "best" has been determined, there will be a WORLD showdown between the GS winner and Tonya Harding.

DG

 

[millie]

...to become the Official Goldenskate Boxing Promoter. I'm proposing a showdown of Sasha haters, MK haters, Irina haters, and other haters for the elimination rounds. Then when the "best" has been determined, there will be a WORLD showdown between the GS winner and Tonya Harding.

DG

Sorry Doggygirl, count me out, I am not a hater of anyone,

 

[bronxgirl]

you could have fooled me. I haven't been so disgusted by a thread in GS in a long time

 

[gezando]

Of course Fumie rocks, including her world bronze medal at DC 2003, unfortunately her achievement was dissed by a fourth place finisher openly in the offical website. :scratch: It is twice on the fourth place finisher, since Fumie had been such a good sport in helping in 2002

 

[registered]

Of course Fumie rocks, including her world bronze medal at DC 2003, unfortunately her achievement was dissed by a fourth place finisher openly in the offical website. QUOTE]

The official web site, that posted an article was Fumie's official web site as well. Both Fumie and Sasha used to be represented by the same management company. It's a nonsense that they'd try to diss their own skater.

 

[gezando]

That article discounted the bronze medalist's achievement as the luck of the draw with an easier qualifying round. That article was post at 2 places:
1. the 4th place finisher's own official website, the one that host the 4th place finisher's online journal.
2. the general area of the management company's website

The management's website belongs to the management, It belongs to no skater. Each client skater receives a blurp on the management company's site. Kinda of like each skater is renting a small unit from the management. That article was not post in the bronze medalist's unit.

Management company is paid a percentage of skater's earning, so if skater A gives more money to the management company than skater B, the company will try to please A more. I am sure the management company tried not to diss one skater in favor of another, but the bottom line is still to try to please the client who pays more money. Of course, there is a high probability that skater B was not even aware of that article, so the managementj company took a gamble and won

It is actually nonsense for the article dissing the bronze medalist's achievement to appear on the 4th place finisher own website, side by side to the 4th place finisher's online journal

I did not see that article post on the bronze medalist own official website, the one where she post her personal photos and goodies for her fans

 

[registered]

That article discounted the bronze medalist's achievement as the luck of the draw with an easier qualifying round. That article was post at 2 places:
1. the 4th place finisher's own official website, the one that host the 4th place finisher's online journal.
2. the general area of the management company's website

The management's website belongs to the management, It belongs to no skater. There is a blurp on many different skaters on the management company's site. Kinda of like each skater is renting a small unit from the management. That article was not post in the bronze medalist's unit.

Management company is paid a percentage of skater's earning, so if skater A gives more money to the management company than skater B, I imagine the company will try to please A more. I am sure the management company tried not to diss one skater in favor of another, but the bottom line is still to try to please the client who pays more money. Of course, there is a high probability that skater B was not even aware of that article, so the managementj company took a gamble and won

It is actually nonsense for article dissing the bronze medalist's achievement to appear on the 4th place finisher own website, side by side to the 4th place finisher's online journal

I did not see that article post on the bronze medalist own official iwebsite, the one where she post her photos and goodies for her fans

Baloney!

Sasha linked her web site to a Management company, that have represented her, Fumie and some other skaters, and she used to post their articles on her official web site as well. Once again, you're using your imagination in a nonsensical way, when you try to smear Miss Cohen's motives and reputation. It's in the company's interest to build up all their skaters, no matter how much money they make -- simple as that (not to mention that trying to please one client at expense of another may lose them that client). There's nothing Sasha could have gain from the diss to Fumie, (or anyone else), no grown up, in his/her right mind would suggest that such move would be beneficial to anyone's career, especially if alleged that it came from the PR people (who represented both).

 

[gezando]

It is not a link it is post in the 4th place finisher's own website side by side to the online journal.


Plain and simple, the bronze medalist's achievement was discounted as luck of the draw with qualifying round

So the management company dropped the ball, it happened. The message was the bronze medalist achievementg was the luck of the draw in qualifying round, it does not read like a build up of the bronze medalist at all. No grown up in his or her right mind can call that a promotion of the bronze medalist

 

[registered]

Since Suguri did not fire her management company, who came up with an article, I'd take it that she didn't think she was dissed in any way, shape or form. Both skaters were praised and promoted by the firm, no matter what their final placement at Worlds would be -- second, third, fourth, or lover (what was Fumie's position last year, sixth?). That'll do it for me.

 

[Hikaru]

Of course Fumie rocks, including her world bronze medal at DC 2003, unfortunately her achievement was dissed by a fourth place finisher openly in the offical website. :scratch: It is twice on the fourth place finisher, since Fumie had been such a good sport in helping in 2002

:sheesh: your message is sooo cryptic... I wonder who are you talking about :scratch:

No really, I read those news in that website, and I found nothing close to dissing there. But since you dislike all that comes from, and to keep your cryptic way of writing, the 2004 World Silver Medallist, I guess you'll always be making post trying to make the 2004 World Silver Medallist look as if she was a bad person. So sad. :boohoo: .. oh, well!

and that's all I have to say about that. Now you can start your reply to this post, as I know you will


NEXT!

OT, I am loving all this emoticons! :yes:

 

[Mathman]

Just in case anyone is curious as to what this argument is about, here is the story, on Sasha's web site (second paragraph).

http://www.sashacohen.com/world.shtml

MM

 

[cutiepatutie]

That article discounted the bronze medalist's achievement as the luck of the draw with an easier qualifying round. That article was post at 2 places:
1. the 4th place finisher's own official website, the one that host the 4th place finisher's online journal.
2. the general area of the management company's website

The management's website belongs to the management, It belongs to no skater. Each client skater receives a blurp on the management company's site. Kinda of like each skater is renting a small unit from the management. That article was not post in the bronze medalist's unit.

Management company is paid a percentage of skater's earning, so if skater A gives more money to the management company than skater B, the company will try to please A more. I am sure the management company tried not to diss one skater in favor of another, but the bottom line is still to try to please the client who pays more money. Of course, there is a high probability that skater B was not even aware of that article, so the managementj company took a gamble and won

It is actually nonsense for the article dissing the bronze medalist's achievement to appear on the 4th place finisher own website, side by side to the 4th place finisher's online journal

I did not see that article post on the bronze medalist own official website, the one where she post her personal photos and goodies for her fans

How could anyone have this much dislike for a person they don't even know ? Sounds like a very serious problem.

 

[soogar]

Dang Gezando,
You're taking issue of an article that was posted on her website almost two years ago (Mar 2003) now? Geez, it's not a new addition to her site.

 

[R.D.]

Red Dog, if you don't like any of the skaters and don't care who wins, what exactly is it that you are passionate about? Are you saying that you "just want to skate and have fun?"

It's an odd position because, you see, you have the rabid fans who seem like they are gushing endlessly, and the dissenters who simply won't lay off. It is a passion that I wish, but really can't, explain. In fact, I wouldn't call it a passion; it's more like an "instinct". If a skater is being dumped on your "instinct" is to defend her. If there is a total love fest for a skater your "instinct" is to crash the party OK, maybe not, but I hope you understand what I mean...

I should probably lay off a bit because apparently if you do certain actions you are considered an uber-fan of a skater...now isn't THAT something...:sheesh:

 

[R.D.]

And Gezando, not to pick a fight or anything, but you've been hashing out the same Cohen incidents OVER and OVER again. We get the point...you don't like her. :sheesh:

And don't even try to label me a Cohen fan. I'm simply being fair here.

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

Dang Gezando,
You're taking issue of an article that was posted on her website almost two years ago (Mar 2003) now? Geez, it's not a new addition to her site.

Gezando -I am sure from all your posts what you think of Sasha is well known by all the GS members. Now, don't you think it is time to move on? There really isn't any more to add to this saga.

Joe