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LP video: https://youtu.be/JVt1Wf44h3E

I can’t stop watching his LP… What makes me glad is his smile during his performance. He felt the piece and skated so happily. especially, his face right after 3a1lo3f seaquence! He’d spent his first senior season with this program and could finish in the satisfying way. He got confidence in that he could do well in such not perfect condition after the exausting Worlds. He knew his hard work was rewarded, and the fullfilment he got finally is meaningful towards the new season, i believe. Go Shoma! :hap10:

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News clip (13minutes, http://blog.livedoor.jp/hana0201402015-sub/archives/5722778.html , the 3rd from the top)
First half is sp performance, around 6:00-, film of younger shoma (5yo, 8 yo, So cute! And he had hate to lose spirit), klimkin eagle, shizuka’s interview about his 4 flip, etc.
(About klimkin eagle)
He says that the point is the flexibility of ankles.
The reason he put klimkin eagle in his programs although this element itself doesn’t have any point is that audience cheer up for him there and it helps him so much!

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His interview after LP on Japanese TV

(About the performance)
Even while skating, I really felt it was the last time to skate with this music. About the last jump sequence, at first, i'd thought I would not challenge. But then the feeling that this was the last chance came up, and I tried. The result was, I don’t know why, but I landed on the ice, which was a surprise so much. It was a pretty nice performance at the end.

I could go aggressive at the last competition, and I didn’t imagine I would finish in such a wonderful way. It's so dilightful.

(About personal best scores)
There were some jumps I failed or didn’t go well, still I could get such high scores. It seems to me there is more room to increase scores and I can go all the way up. Further, I feel so happy that I was able to finish not with the performance at Worlds but with a wonderful performance like this.
 
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ioanna said:
I think half of this forum has been renamed the **** on Satoko and Shoma forum :laugh: In all seriousness though, I talked to Jackie Wong on twitter and this is what he had to say:

Q: Some people have said Shoma's quad flip was prerotated. What do you think?
A: Everyone's jumps are "prerotated." That's just how figure skating jumping works.

Q: How about Satoko Miyahara's prerotations?
A: It's about when/how you tap in. Tapping forward on flip or lutz is basically impossible. There is a difference between natural prerotation and poor technique prerotation (like a toe-axel). Uno and Miyahara are the former.

Q: Should toe-axels be considered incomplete jumps just like underrotations are?
A: It's really a gray area. Unless they can show that you turned forward before you tap in, tough to call. There is also a difference between tapping in and having your toe rotate (which everyone does) and tapping in already forward.
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Thanks for sharing this. I don't understand what is "tap in" and "turn forward". Anybody could explain a bit?
 
Well, he isn't playing around with his jump layout, is he?! Lord... If he can stabilise and improve GOE on that layout, things could get very interesting. Wow! Well done, Shoma! So lovely to see you smiling at the end of the season!
 
skatefan22 said:
Thanks for sharing this. I don't understand what is "tap in" and "turn forward". Anybody could explain a bit?
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Not a specialist but this is what I understand. The moment the toepick hits the ice is tapping in. Tapping in and having your toe rotate on the ice is what everyone here calls prerotation. Tapping in already forward is when your body is already rotating when your toepick hits the ice.
 
skatefan22 said:
Thanks for sharing this. I don't understand what is "tap in" and "turn forward". Anybody could explain a bit?
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All the jumps besides axel are to jump backward.
However, all the jumps besides Lutz needs some prerotation to take off.
So all the skaters prerotate like 45 degrees to 60 degrees on ice before taking off from the ice for Toe Loop, Salchow & Loop,
and about 30 to 40 degrees for Flip,
and almost 0 for Lutz.
For Lutz, you have to stay on the left back outside edge until the moment of "tapping in",
the right toe pick hitting the ice,
which means your body wants to turn to your right until tapping in,
then after that, you have to jump up and turn to your left.
So you really can not do much prerotation for Lutz,
and that is one reason why Lutz is the very difficult jump.
On the other hand, you are on the left back inside edge before tapping in for Flip,
which means your body wants to turn to your left, unlike Lutz, even before tapping in.
Actually most of skaters already turn to some degrees on the ice right before tapping in for Flip,
then you take off and finish the rotation to your left in the air.
That is one reason why Flip is easier than Lutz, and judges are so strict on edge errors.

As for Toe Loop, this is the toe jump like Lutz and Flip, but it is a very different jump.
You are on the right back outside edge before tapping in,
and you reach back your left leg/foot behind your right one, then hit your left toe pick on the ice.
Even before this tapping in, most of skaters rotates to some degree on the ice just like Flip
But unlike Lutz and Flip, you can stay on the ice and rotate on the ice
even after tapping in, before taking off from the ice.

Small jumpers like Satoko, they like to stay on the ice as long as possible before the take off for the obvious reason.
However, if you rotate on the ice nearly 90 degrees or more, you "turn forward" for backward take off jumps,
which is big NO NO.

So the prerotation to some degree is normal,
but you can not prerotate to "turning forward (90 degrees)."
Yet the reality is much more complex.
Most of skaters do near "turning forward" for the second part of Triple+Triple combination.
For the second triple of the combination, they do not have much speed to rely on,
and as the mechanics of the combination,
they turn almost forward before the take off of second triple, 3T or 3Lp.
But usually it is not criticized or punished by the rule book.

Salchow and Loop are edge jumps, so you need edging for taking off,
which means you absolutely have to do the prerotation to perform multi rotations for them.

Also judging UR of lading is tough enough, judging prerotation is even harder
since some degrees of prerotation is normal thing to do for some jumps.
I think 45 to 60 degrees of prerotation for Toe Loop, Salchow and Loop is pretty normal,
and completely turning forward, 90 degrees, or more is wrong.
Then where do you draw the line, and how do you judge that?
That is very difficult.

PS as for Toe Axel,
this means that you do 90 degrees prerotation for Toe Loop before taking off.
So you jump forward from the left toe pick, which is technically more like Axel jump.
That is why it is called Toe Axel and also big No No.
 
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As for Shoma's 4F,
Watching it many time, I think his body was nearly side way on the moment of tapping in.
That means he had like 40 degrees prerotation before tapping in, which is normal range.
However, he seemed to turn more before his actual take off from the ice, which is the additional prerotation.
As the result of that, did he make the take off completely forward?
Probably not completely forward, but on the grey zone I guess.

As the matter of fact, many female skaters' 3F are like this.
So if their 3F are ratified, Shoma's 4F better be ratified too.
But of course, some people are extra picky on this kind of matters naturally.
 
bluelutz said:
As for Shoma's 4F,
Watching it many time, I think his body was nearly side way on the moment of tapping in.
That means he had like 40 degrees prerotation before tapping in, which is normal range.
However, he seemed to turn more before his actual take off from the ice, which is the additional prerotation.
As the result of that, did he make the take off completely forward?
Probably not completely forward, but on the grey zone I guess.

As the matter of fact, many female skaters' 3F are like this.
So if their 3F are ratified, Shoma's 4F better be ratified too.
But of course, some people are extra picky on this kind of matters naturally.
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Thank you, bluelutz, for the explanation!!! It is very helpful!
 
cdngirl said:
Mad respect for Shoma! I am so very happy for him. Hamaguri, here is a link to a mini interview and his acceptance of the winner's cheque. I know how disappointed you were at the Worlds so I'm posting this just for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVF8CPRGOn4
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Thanks, cdngirl! You are bery kind! Being able to deliver his words with joy unlike Worlds was my pleasure at TCC!.:)
Thank you for sharing!:love::love: He looks happy, and is very adorable!. Off ice, he’s just a tiny boy at 18 yo. I don’t know why he has such a presence on ice. Further, this time, he got a huge standing ovation and clapping from the audience, even from the other teams. As a performer, it was one of the biggest moments of him. I'm so glad!
 
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yhmafan said:
Congratulations Shoma! you made history I'm proud of you. :clapper:
Btw, Everyone's reaction is just awesome. Look at Satoko's face hahaha
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Where is Satoko's face? Shoma's face looks hilarious. He looks excited and alarmed at the same time :laugh:

cdngirl said:
Mad respect for Shoma! I am so very happy for him. Hamaguri, here is a link to a mini interview and his acceptance of the winner's cheque. I know how disappointed you were at the Worlds so I'm posting this just for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVF8CPRGOn4
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This is super cute! Is there one for the long program?
 
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One thing I noticed at TCC, Shoma smiled all the way through his SP and LP after he landed 4F and also his gala performance. I have always liked the cool Shoma on ice, but now I realized he is even more charismatic when he smiles!! Thanks to TCC event, we now have a more confident and engaging Shoma!
 
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Shoma's message on his official website translated by his tumblr fan page:

To everyone who has supported me

Thank you for your support during Team Challenge Cup!
I had a lot of fun here with my Team Asia teammates and the other competitors. Tears were falling at the World Championships, but I’m glad I didn’t give up at my next competition (heh).

Like I did all season with my performances, I attacked, and I was able to land a quad flip in both my SP&FS at this competition. I think this is a great momentum going forward(^^)/

Many things have happened in my first season as a senior. It started with disappointment at my first competition in Salt Lake City; however, I’m a little relieved I was able to close it well here at the end. Everything I felt and experienced this season will build towards next season. I’ll continue to work hard, never being satisfied.

It was the final competition, but thank you to everyone for their support. I’m thankful for everyone who has helped me along the way to bring this season to a close. Thank you so much.

There is so much I want to accomplish next season, but I will patiently take it one step at a time. Thank you for your support from here on out as well!!!

SHOMA
 
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Well, Shoma is definitely going to put a little more pressure on Hanyu at next japanese nationals to better bring his A game :biggrin:
 
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x471l4e_tcc-宮原-宇野選手帰国_sport
Shoma and Satoko are back in Japan.
He says he was pleasantly surprised about the 4F in the SP and it was a confident boost for him to have landed it in competition.
This competition was the most fun and fulfilling for him.
He wants to enhance his performance next season up to a level where if he gave the same kind of performance as he did at TCC again, he'll get depressed.


I haven't kept up with his schedule during the summer, but I hope he has time to see a jump coach. I'm so afraid for his ankles and knees and head :drama:
 
mikaboo said:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x471l4e_tcc-宮原-宇野選手帰国_sport
Shoma and Satoko are back in Japan.
He says he was pleasantly surprised about the 4F in the SP and it was a confident boost for him to have landed it in competition.
This competition was the most fun and fulfilling for him.
He wants to enhance his performance next season up to a level where if he gave the same kind of performance as he did at TCC again, he'll get depressed.


I haven't kept up with his schedule during the summer, but I hope he has time to see a jump coach. I'm so afraid for his ankles and knees and head :drama:
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This summer, he has confirmed altogether 27 shows, including SOI, PIW, THE ICE, and the newly added FaOI. This info is also available on his official site: http://www.shoma-uno.com/info/
 
mikaboo said:
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I haven't kept up with his schedule during the summer, but I hope he has time to see a jump coach. I'm so afraid for his ankles and knees and head :drama:
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Dont worry, he gets entry to PIW, but Yokohama only, gets entry to FaOI, but Sapporo only (both of them, until now), and further, DOI.
I'm sure he has much time for practice this summer.:)
 
Interesting newspaper article in Japanese:

from Nikkan Sport http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/1636623.html
１４年４月からは、ハンマー投げの室伏広治が中京大に創設したアスリート競技力向上機関の高谷温子トレーナーとともに、跳べる体作りに励む。
体幹を鍛え、右側ばかり力の強かった体のバランスを整えてきた。
陸上など他競技のトップ選手も指導する高谷氏は「鍛えたものを動きにつなげる天性の感覚がある。なかなかいない」と驚く。
しかも「伸びしろがたくさんある」。
まだ１８歳。進化は計り知れない。
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Uno has started off-ice trainings since April 2014 with Atsuko Takatani, Performance Therapist at CICP (Chukyo University Institute of Sports Performance), which was originally established by Koji Murofushi, 2004 Hammer Thrower Olympic Champion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koji_Murofushi in order to enhance athletes' overall physical/performance ability/capacity.
The main focus of his trainings is to build up stamina, conditioning and strength, core strength of the body in particular, that is good enough for jumps, and to fix/adjust the balance of his body, because the right side of his body once was much stronger than the left one(, due to the nature of the sport, of course, by twisting hard the body into counter clockwise all the time for jumps).

Ms Takatani, who's been working with many top athletes of track & field and such for years, says what's remarkable with him is his natural/born ability to convert whatever physical strength he's got thru trainings into his overall body movements.
"A rare talent, not every athletes have that talent but he does." Then she added, "Besides, he hasn't hit his limit/ full potential yet, thus plenty of rooms to improve."
Uno is only 18 years old. His further developments from here in the coming years seems myriad.
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Wasn't 2014-15 season when Shoma got consistency on 3A, sort of all of a sudden, also able to hit 4T? The above off-ice trainings must be one of the secrets Shoma can land ratified 4Fs at the recent TCC, too, practicing intensively for only 2 weeks after Boston Worlds. Kudos to him and his team. :yes:
 
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