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Here's an interesting interview with Stéphane:
http://www.absoluteskating.com/interviews/2009lambiel.htm
http://www.absoluteskating.com/interviews/2009lambiel.htm
*sigh* I love Stephane, always!
I was very surprised that he said that Abott was "held up." an artistic skater himslef, I am surprised that he thought that Evan skated well enough to win.
Stephane's exact words were this :
Interviewer :
Do you know the results of American Nationals?
Stephane :
That was a disaster… for Johnny it must be very hard, but I blame this on the new system. For example, Evan Lysacek, he was skating not bad, he could win with what he did, but he was third.
The implication is that he thought Evan should have won which is weird. What in his eyes did Evan do that was so superior? I wonder if he also thought Jeremy should not have won the GP Final.
Joe, as casken pointed out, people can interpret "beautiful" to mean different things. Stephane seems to agree, too: There is no truth in figure skating, I think, this is a subjective sport: you can like someone or not.It's so much better to use the Gestolt rationale, and just give beautiful skating its due.
Beautiful jumps, beautiful spins, beautiful laid out program. Why give not beautiful jumps, not beautiful spins and not beauftiful progrm any scoring points at all? So much is already covered in the GoEs including faults. Let the PCs show beautiful skating as part of the Final Score!!!
Abbott was not mentioned in the interview. I'm not sure Stephane watched all of US Nats, which are not normally broadcast in Europe - at least not live. Maybe he just watched Evan and Johnny, whom he probably knows well from their years in competition together. I got the feeling that the people being held up/undermarked comment was more of a general complaint in regard to the system. Stephane is not the kind of guy who would mention names of people who seem to be benefiting from this because obviously it's the judges' fault, not the skaters'.I was very surprised that he said that Abott was "held up."
I think he said all he wanted to about Europeans . And except for F/S winning the silver, which I did not think they deserved, I generally agree with his take on the top pairs and dance teams.I'd love to hear What Lambiel thinks about Joubert's win in Helsinki. They've always been like frenemies, so I bet he has interesting things to say.
Actually, I don't see how that proves or disproves anything, because judges also influence the scoring through GOEs - and USFS doesn't appear to have released full protocols with base value and GOE per element. So I have no idea what actually went on in terms of scoring and who might have been overmarked/undermarked.I don't quite get the "Evan Lysacek, he was skating not bad, he could win with what he did, but he was third" remark. I don't see how Evan could possibly win this one.
Forget about those (inflated?) PCS for a sec, take a look at the TES alone.
http://www.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/34540/results.html
Kind of shows who was seriously "held up" in both programs.
If there were no PCS, Mroz would have won, not Lysacek. Abbott would have been 2nd.