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Tatsuki said he heard this particular song a few years ago and always wanted to create a program with it but didn't think he had the maturity to pull it off. He thought he had to improve his interpretation in order to try it and felt like he had finally arrived to that point this season. To me it seemed like he created his own concept with the piece (based on real life experiences) rather than following the plot of the movie.

You know, I have always wondered whether Tatsuki first heard the piece in Mao's SP some years back. Mao skated it brilliantly at 2008 Worlds, and for me that was the definitive skating interpretation of that music until I saw Tatsuki's SP this season. Now that distinction for me is shared by both of them.


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Welcome. :) As for being shallow, who among us doesn't like eye candy? ;)
 
Because his final SP performance at Japanese Nationals is the most superb in the season, I'm reluctant to constantly remind of his retirement. Instead, I need some diversion from the reality, but still feel to connect with him in a way. :)
It's understandable because I honestly can't recall any other top skater calling it quits in their prime for non injury reasons. The timing (middle of the season) was also rather unexpected. Only time will help his fans to fully accept his retirement.
 
You know, I have always wondered whether Tatsuki first heard the piece in Mao's SP some years back. Mao skated it brilliantly at 2008 Worlds, and for me that was the definitive skating interpretation of that music until I saw Tatsuki's SP this season. Now that distinction for me is shared by both of them.
I think that's probably where he heard it first. Mao made the debut to her SP at the 2007 International Counter Match and Tatsuki also competed at that event.

It's interesting you mention their different interpretation because Mao's Fantasy was indeed an iconic program and everybody associated it with her after she won her first World Championship. The same happened with East Of Eden - a program that people often associate with Michelle Kwan. It's remarkable how he was able to make them his own, so much that East Of Eden is now also regarded as his signature program. It's no wonder he had the talent to master a program like Symphony no 9 and I'm glad he tried it because this one will always be his personal creation.
 
What a wonderful find! Thanks for sharing ionaop!

PS. Would you know what the "MAD" in the title of many of the videos of TJ skaters means?

A MAD is just a Japanese fan made video although I'm not entirely sure what the initials stand for.
 
Okay... so you think we've been through enough roller coasters so far? Think again. Somebody on twitter posted a newspaper scan from today
https://twitter.com/nekokatze7/status/557651947269140480

And according to that article Tatsuki's mother was shocked to find out he would have actually gone to Worlds if he made the Nationals podium. But he didn't so he thought he didn't deserve to go. His decision was probably strongly linked to his FS performances at both GPF and Nationals and he probably thought they disqualified him from deserving a Worlds spot.

I just want to clarify that the article does not contain actual quotes from Tatsuki so this is by no means 100% certain. At least so far.
 
Okay... so you think we've been through enough roller coasters so far? Think again. Somebody on twitter posted a newspaper scan from today
https://twitter.com/nekokatze7/status/557651947269140480

And according to that article Tatsuki's mother was shocked to find out he would have actually gone to Worlds if he made the Nationals podium. But he didn't so he thought he didn't deserve to go. His decision was probably strongly linked to his FS performances at both GPF and Nationals and he probably thought they disqualified him from deserving a Worlds spot.

I just want to clarify that the article does not contain actual quotes from Tatsuki so this is by no means 100% certain. At least so far.

Well, it sounds like a very Tatsuki thing to do. He looks very strict with himself...would be great if someone could translate the article to know more in detail what it saids. Thanks in advance.

For those who are more familiar with Tatsuki personality, do you think that if he had have a podium at GPF and JN, he would have skated in Worlds? I do believe that even with a great result he would have retired at the end of the season.
 
For those who are more familiar with Tatsuki personality, do you think that if he had have a podium at GPF and JN, he would have skated in Worlds? I do believe that even with a great result he would have retired at the end of the season.

Yes. I personally believe the article is right about this one. If the podium had been Hanyu - Uno - Machida and he still quit then the JSF would have found themselves in an awkward position to replace both Shoma and himself. But Kozuka skated a much better FS than he did (and so did Hanyu and Uno) so he believed he didn't deserve to go to Worlds. He did say he made his final decision on the morning of the Worlds team announcement day.
 
Okay... so you think we've been through enough roller coasters so far? Think again. Somebody on twitter posted a newspaper scan from today
https://twitter.com/nekokatze7/status/557651947269140480

And according to that article Tatsuki's mother was shocked to find out he would have actually gone to Worlds if he made the Nationals podium. But he didn't so he thought he didn't deserve to go. His decision was probably strongly linked to his FS performances at both GPF and Nationals and he probably thought they disqualified him from deserving a Worlds spot.

I just want to clarify that the article does not contain actual quotes from Tatsuki so this is by no means 100% certain. At least so far.

Sigh, I personally supposed so, if he were in podium at Nationals, we would've seen him at least in World. Since many thought at that time of Nationals this season, he was underscored at SP, so I believe if he earned at least 3~4 points more at SP (compared to the score at SA, his performance was better than that at SA), the podium placement would be definitely different. I read through the thread for the last year's Japanese Nationals, several posters said Tatsuki was underscored compared to the other top contenders. Since Tatsuki didn't have a sponsorship except the affiliation to the university, he should've solely depended on his performance itself.
 
Okay... so you think we've been through enough roller coasters so far? Think again. Somebody on twitter posted a newspaper scan from today
https://twitter.com/nekokatze7/status/557651947269140480

And according to that article Tatsuki's mother was shocked to find out he would have actually gone to Worlds if he made the Nationals podium. But he didn't so he thought he didn't deserve to go. His decision was probably strongly linked to his FS performances at both GPF and Nationals and he probably thought they disqualified him from deserving a Worlds spot.

I just want to clarify that the article does not contain actual quotes from Tatsuki so this is by no means 100% certain. At least so far.

I've been reading the posts here and I appreciate so much for all the thoughtful insights and the updates you all are posting!

Translation of his mother's quote:
"At first (I can't tell when, the beginning of the season or before the Nats?), he was saying his goal was the Worlds. He would have possibly gone to the Worlds if he had made the podium at the Nationals. Perhaps, he thought he didn't deserve to."

I'm a bit surprised that his mother doesn't even know the reason at all. I think she doesn't say that she was shocked to find out his thought but she's just guessing too. But I suppose she knows him well and her guess is close to his actual thought. Tatsuki is such a determined man who doesn't let others (the judges or JFS or whatsoever) decide what he does, and acts in a way he thinks he deserves to (I believe this is the reason he didn't get any sponsor though. It's just a rumor but he seemed to have been offered a sponsorship by the company his parents work. It's a quite well known company in Japan, which head office locates where Tatsuki is from. But he didn't accept it because it can restrict what he does, especially when his parents work there.). If what his mother says is right, I would say it's very Tatsuki.

I don't have the time to translate this all but in brief, it says:
- Tatsuki's retirement was a shocking event at the Natinals.
- Only few people including his family knew his retirement in advance and even the coach Onishi was informed on the day he announced.
- His mother supposes "At first (I can't tell when, the beginning of the season or before the Nats?), he was saying his goal was the Worlds. He would have possibly gone to the Worlds if he had made the podium at the Nationals. Perhaps, he thought he didn't deserve to."
- It seems he had decided that he would retire this season anyway.
- He had taken examination for Waseda's graduate course before SA and had qualified.
- He was a unique skater famous for interesting remarks.
- He was a late blooming athlete.
- He used to love games but he turned into an intelligent man through reading books. He entered the high school following Dai. He started to read books to spend time in the Shinkansen he used to go to his school.
- He always brought about 5 books with him during the foreign competitions.
- He was an artistic skater. For Symphony 9, he did not move for the first 20 seconds so that the music can be longer because 4:30 was too short for Symphony 9.
- Kozuka says: "He was a unique skater who could think of what others wouldn't think of."
- It was difficult for him to figure out his career after competitive career. That's why he kept on studying.
- His theme for his study is not revealed but he is determined to study for the needs of the society.
- He will attend ice shows along with his study. He is likely to continue to doctoral course.
 
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Sigh, I personally supposed so, if he were in podium at Nationals, we would've seen him at least in World. Since many thought at that time of Nationals this season, he was underscored at SP, so I believe if he earned at least 3~4 points more at SP (compared to the score at SA, his performance was better than that at SA), the podium placement would be definitely different. I read through the thread for the last year's Japanese Nationals, several posters said Tatsuki was underscored compared to the other top contenders. Since Tatsuki didn't have a sponsorship except the affiliation to the university, he should've solely depended on his performance itself.

I've stated my opinion on the scoring right after the SP and thought that should have gotten a 93. But he got a 90 so who knows he probably thought that was his level and went into the FS with that kind of mindset.
 
Translation of his mother's quote:
"At first (I can't tell when, the beginning of the season or before the Nats?), he was saying his goal was the Worlds. He would have possibly gone to the Worlds if he had made the podium at the Nationals. Perhaps, he thought he didn't deserve to."
He talked about Worlds a lot so it's not a secret that was his goal. I tend to believe his mother because she just kind of clarified my suspicions. It's his decision but I personally disagree with it.
 
Do we have the name of the newspaper? I know some media in Japan isn´t very reliable...

Thanks for the translation.

I've stated my opinion on the scoring right after the SP and thought that should have gotten a 93. But he got a 90 so who knows he probably thought that was his level and went into the FS with that kind of mindset.

Do we know who was the Tech caller? (sorry don´t know really how is called) I was reading about this guy, Shin Amano I think, that is very strict with tech calls. Some call him Mao´s worst enemy.
 
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Do we have the name of the newspaper? I know some media in Japan isn´t very reliable...

Thanks for the translation.



Do we know who was the Tech caller? (sorry don´t know really how is called) I was reading about this guy, Shin Amano I think, that is very strict with tech calls. Some call him Mao´s worst enemy.

I can't tell the newspaper but seems to be a reliable one to me though.
The tech panelist was Makoto Okazaki, who is rather strict but IMO he is the most reliable tech specialist in Japan. IIRC he defended Mao when she was getting bashings compared to Yuna. I don't think the tech specialist was strict to Tatsuki at the Nats. It was quite apparent he didn't have enough revolutions for spins and his upward camel is unlikely to be counted. If someone is to be blamed for, it's the judges, I believe.
 
Thank you Perdita, for the translations and the Tech observation. I like figure skating but I´m no good in tech calls.

I don't have the time to translate this all but in brief, it says:
- Tatsuki's retirement was a shocking event at the Natinals.
- Only few people including his family knew his retirement in advance and even the coach Onishi was informed on the day he announced.
- His mother supposes "At first (I can't tell when, the beginning of the season or before the Nats?), he was saying his goal was the Worlds. He would have possibly gone to the Worlds if he had made the podium at the Nationals. Perhaps, he thought he didn't deserve to."
- It seems he had decided that he would retire this season anyway.

I guess since the moment he took the exam he have his mind made to retired. Probably with best results he would have go on until Worlds, I think he should have, he deserved a last big stage. But he know best.

Again best wishes for him, read yesterday that only 4% of the people that study college in Japan get a master degree,hope he does well.
 
perdita, thank you for translating the rest of the article. It's a bit confusing since his mother assumed he would have gone to Worlds if he had made the podium but then the article claims he had already informed his family he would retire at the Nationals regardless.

As for deciding he was going to retire this season I think this information is a bit old. He did say that around Sochi but then changed his mind and told people he was planning on going further than that and this is something he said even around Skate America.
 
I think the article has much conflict information as well. It's like a collections of gossips and some interviews with some reliable infomation. So it's very confusing. like 50/50.
 
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