And who is missing? Nichol, Dean, Zhulin, Marie France & Patch, Rohene Ward, Shpilband...
Anyone want to argue for them?
Anyone want to argue for them?
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And who is missing? Nichol, Dean, Zhulin, Marie France & Patch, Rohene Ward, Shpilband...
Anyone want to argue for them?
Well, I'll vote for Rohene. Most folks think of Jason, of course, but his programs are magic, no matter who he does choreo for. And so to the extent that anyone thinks he's a one skater choreographer (although I can't believe anyone would think that ), here's the post for him
Olga Kliushnichenko -> Kolyada and Konstantinova choreographer. Fairly unknown, she has done cool weird programs like that "Nightmare Before Christmas" free skate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZoZOGJ3kk4
https://youtu.be/Z8lBj4YiHqc?t=20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEZgKaDMeJk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bmjZcyVh4
Peter Tchernyshev -> very popular in Russia, i don't hear much about him outside, Manfred Symphony free program (the 2015-16 version) he did for Kavaguti Smirnov is possibly my favourite program in pairs. The program has so many moments, it doesn't need a throw jump as an highlight, in fact both quads are almost hidden. I like also his works for the Shibutanis and Boikova/Kozlovskii.
Sandra Bezic -> not sure how underrated, i haven't seen many programs done by her in recent years, not sure if she is still full time working, or if she prefers gala programs now.
Among the already mentioned:
Silvia Fontana and John Zimmerman
Adam Solya
Olga Glinka
Lance Vipond
The most recent competitive program I know of that Bezic has done was Jeremy Abbott's 2014-15 FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pInfJAmdBwc
I would say the most resent competitive program of her is/was Medvedeva's 2018-19 SP.
Evgenia of course felt not yet ready to skate this program but choreography itself, I dare to say that it was a real gem.
I would say the most resent competitive program of her is/was Medvedeva's 2018-19 SP.
Evgenia of course felt not yet ready to skate this program but choreography itself, I dare to say that it was a real gem.
I might have misunderstood your post, but— we have seen it; she did the Orange Colored Sky short from the beginning of the season. That’s what withwings was referring to. (David Wilson was also involved with the choreography. I’m not sure how much of the work was split between them.)Like I said in my last post, It was the most recent that I know of, before that she was commentating and not really choreographing much.
That said, I would have loved to seeing what she could have done for Medvedeva.
I might have misunderstood your post, but— we have seen it; she did the Orange Colored Sky short from the beginning of the season. That’s what withwings was referring to. (David Wilson was also involved with the choreography. I’m not sure how much of the work was split between them.)
HereNo, I misunderstood part of withwings post. I didn't know Medvedeva skated that program at least once. Now I need to go find video.
I think the difference really down to more of a difference in choreographic emphasis. Your post above with the moment you liked in Alyona’s program doesn’t really have to do with any specific relation of her movements to her music itself. You like the feeling that’s she able to evoke specifically through "the moves themselves." Programs conceptualized like this have become much more of the norm nowadays. But most older fans seem, to me, to go the other way. They want emphasizing moments to reflect the music itself in some clear way, and for the feeling of the music to dictate the feeling of the skating and choreography. So if the moves that sell the program are also off with the music, then what's the point? And while that does probably reflect the state of skating they grew up with, but not because those programs were necessarily "primitive" in an artistic sense.
I would argue that the latter type of program is the more difficult thing to achieve and execute well from a purely artistic standpoint, and that people tend to underestimate the technical skill and also the athletic capability needed to pull really good programs like that off from a skating standpoint.
topic: I once bought 100% pure, unsweetened carrot juice, because someone told me it was good, but that other kinds would probably be *too sweet* for me... then I took one sip and I thought I'd burned my mouth off. It was about as fun as licking a leaking battery.
Like I said in my last post, It was the most recent that I know of, before that she was commentating and not really choreographing much.
That said, I would have loved to seeing what she could have done for Medvedeva.
I don't think that she's underrated just wanted to add that Sandra Bezic choreographed and prepared alongside David Wilson Javi's whole show Revolution on Ice, to be precise it were two shows, because the November guest skaters were different from the December shows and there were a lot of group numbers and theme performances, so they had to create something similar with different means. And Javi's Prometo!!
And note number two, not that I think he's underrated in general, but I strongly dislike how it's become a trend or whatever to criticise David Wilson and hope against hope that he doesn't choreograph a program for XY or AB or whoever the Twitter favourite is. But I believe that it's only teenage twitter thing. David Wilson has done awesome programs (I'd praise him to high heaven even if he'd just choreographed Guys and Dolls), and of course some not that good ones (looking at you, Peter Gunn) and he can't be everyone's favourite but some people really go over the board in their praying against him.