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I agree with u about pairs and equipment issues.
I wonder what premonition or knowledge makes u think Liu, Levito, and Glenn will withdraw.
It is next week.
I would have said it more last week.
If withdraw toi late to add women.
Withdrawals US Nationals
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I wonder what premonition or knowledge makes u think Liu, Levito, and Glenn will withdraw.
It is next week.
I would have said it more last week.
If withdraw toi late to add women.
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Well, I don't agree about the pairs. Yes in most ways it is the toughest discipline, but the entries at worlds has always ebbed and flowed. Somewhere in the 1970's I believe (I'm going on memory) there were only 11 teams entered at worlds. Slowly the numbers grew. I think that because there is a team event and that the pairs route might be the fastest way to earn an Olympic medal at least in the USA, is one incentive for skaters to choose to continue on in that discipline. (Think Deanna S-D, Alexa Knierim, Audrey Shin, Ashley Cain, Starr Andrews etc.) Pairs will continue, it probably won't have 30 entries like men or ladies, but it's not going to disappear into oblivion.
The new Synchro 9 discipline has been introduced to try to help get synchronised skating into the Olympics. For that to happen, it is likely that something else would need to be dropped - and I suspect that would, sadly, be pairs. Removing the team event wouldn't help because it wouldn't remove enough athletes (most of them are competing in the main events as well as the team one).
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Good grief! People are talking about the total elimination of pairs by the ISU as a 'for-sure' thing. 
This sport is fast heading for the scrap heap for me, if that happens. 
I truly wish someone with passion for real figure skating would start a separate, figure skating only sports entity. The ISU can keep this blasted excuse for figure skating tied to speedskating with over-acrobatic singles, dumbed-down ice dance, scaled-down synchro, and a purported elimination of pairs all to themselves. They will definitely lose fan interest, as has been happening for awhile. The ISU was started in the late 1800s by speedskaters for speedskaters anyway. All the ISU has done for far too long is over-hype the surface 'thrill' and 'glamour' aspects of figure skating in order to milk revenue for speedskating. So let the final dumbing down and corrupting happen. And please skating gods, let true figure skating be rebuilt from the ashes. 🌬
I will also vigorously support, donate to, and cheer on World Figure and Fancy Skating! Aspiring to make the Olympics, especially in its current iteration, is NOT everything.
This sport is fast heading for the scrap heap for me, if that happens. I truly wish someone with passion for real figure skating would start a separate, figure skating only sports entity. The ISU can keep this blasted excuse for figure skating tied to speedskating with over-acrobatic singles, dumbed-down ice dance, scaled-down synchro, and a purported elimination of pairs all to themselves. They will definitely lose fan interest, as has been happening for awhile. The ISU was started in the late 1800s by speedskaters for speedskaters anyway. All the ISU has done for far too long is over-hype the surface 'thrill' and 'glamour' aspects of figure skating in order to milk revenue for speedskating. So let the final dumbing down and corrupting happen. And please skating gods, let true figure skating be rebuilt from the ashes. 🌬I will also vigorously support, donate to, and cheer on World Figure and Fancy Skating! Aspiring to make the Olympics, especially in its current iteration, is NOT everything.
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Maybe, eventually, in a better existence, and under more fruitful, enlightened and well-funded conditions, the WFFS can collaborate with a WFSA (World Figure Skating Association) to maintain and continue growing the beauty, creativity, relevant traditions, art and sport of real figure skating.
Exploring, celebrating and mining from the best of the past to carve out a brighter future for athletes who are passionate about the true essence of figure skating! Let go of schlepping for and bowing down to the ISU's overdone disregard for the basics of what makes figure skating captivating and worth watching.
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They won't remove pairs to include synchro. I very much doubt it. One of the big perks for pairs right now at the Olympics is that the IOC love mixed disciplines. ( Men and women competing together). So I doubt they would remove pairs. I'm not worried at all that pairs removal from youth Olympics would have any incidence on the games.
Youth Olympics have a strict age limitation that proved too hard for many countries to develop healthy
pairs. There are a lot of things that will change in my lifetime in the sport, considering the ISU changes things every six months, but I doubt pairs will be nixed from the Olympics.
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Agree 100%.
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I hate the Olympics. Truly. As soon as one is over…people start speculating on the next!Good grief! People are talking about the total elimination of pairs by the ISU as a 'for-sure' thing.
I will also vigorously support, donate to, and cheer on World Figure and Fancy Skating! Aspiring to make the Olympics, especially in its current iteration, is NOT everything.
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Yeah saw that wonder if still injury? I can’t find anything
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20 teams do the world free skate
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Yes, they changed it into 20 exactly because of the 28 pairs in 2018, and only 16 going through to the FS. The ISU organises special pair development camps for the pairs twice a year. It doesn't look like the ISU has plans to let them flounder just yet!
Sorry OT.
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Yeah, the cut-off number for the free skate, especially in pairs has fluctated over the years. If you check the history, you will see a couple of years during the 2000 teens where there were 28 pairs entries, cut to friggin' 16
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It should be left at 24, if this sport cares to develop and nurture the pairs discipline. Obviously, they don't care to do so.
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Uh, the ISU does leave pairs largely to flounder because the discipline is not seen as a high priority. Any training and development programs that are provided, I am quite sure happen as a result of coaches and prominent advocates of pairs skating within the ISU, pushing for such programs. ISU management are largely clueless with many conflicts of interest abounding within the institution.Yes, they changed it into 20 exactly because of the 28 pairs in 2018, and only 16 going through to the FS. The ISU organises special pair development camps for the pairs twice a year. It doesn't look like the ISU has plans to let them flounder just yet!
Sorry OT.
As it stands, pairs skaters deserve a day of rest in between programs which they rarely receive.
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Sadly, one of the only ways to heal a herniated disc is surgery. If you don't do surgery you run the risk of rupturing a disc. My mom had this and that happened. She said it was the worst pain she had ever had. Granted she was and is not a top level athlete, but knowing how much pain she was in I can imagine the pain that he has had to deal with.I hope Camden's herniated disc can be effectively healed, and that he will be able to fully train and come back to compete again.
I think pairs has become a not only very difficult but dangerous discipline. Finding skaters who can safely complete ridiculously difficult lifts plus do triple jumps is tough to start with. Some choose ice dance if they are prone to a paired discipline. Dance has its own challenges but not to the degree of pairs, imo
