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Worlds best guesses for podiums?
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Well, I hope so. They were discussing in their US press interview after US Nats whether they would be upgrading throws. Marissa said they would be discussing it with their coaching team. Apparently the quad salchow has been going very well.
The current version of the rules allows a 3S and 4S throw in the same program, BTW, but it's risky, since if the 4S is downgraded, the 2nd of the two throws gets nothing as a sort of Zayak rule issue.
The current version of the rules allows a 3S and 4S throw in the same program, BTW, but it's risky, since if the 4S is downgraded, the 2nd of the two throws gets nothing as a sort of Zayak rule issue.
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Scary that some peope don't even have Daisuke in the medals here. It might happen, but would be so heartbreaking. I want him to win. It will be his last World Championship. Horrible thought that he won't even be in the top 3.
I'll put him first, I believe in him.
Men
1. Takahashi
2. Chan
3. Fernandez
Feeling bad about leaving Yuzuru out, but I have a feeling that he might break down. Who knows.
Ladies
1. Kim
2. Asada
3. Kostner
Not that interested in Dance and in pairs I want S/S to win, but I don't think they will and I cannot really say their programs deserve it. Depends on the form on that specific day, too. If they are fit they might just win the World Title. But only if V/T make mistakes.
I'll put him first, I believe in him.
Men
1. Takahashi
2. Chan
3. Fernandez
Feeling bad about leaving Yuzuru out, but I have a feeling that he might break down. Who knows.
Ladies
1. Kim
2. Asada
3. Kostner
Not that interested in Dance and in pairs I want S/S to win, but I don't think they will and I cannot really say their programs deserve it. Depends on the form on that specific day, too. If they are fit they might just win the World Title. But only if V/T make mistakes.
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Ladies- 1.Kim
2.Asada
3.Gold
4.Kostner
5.Wagner
2.Asada
3.Gold
4.Kostner
5.Wagner
Actually 4S< and 4S<< are considered different jumps than 3S.
So a skater can safely attempt a quad toe and even if it gets downgraded, he can still doe a triple toe later on and it won't count as repeating the jump.
That's why < was introduced in the first place. IIRC, Plushenko had a downgrade and then he "repeated" the jump, got zero points and a fuss was raised causing the ISU to change the rules.
He's not in a very good shape this season.
I would really love to see him win but I am afraid that he'll finish outside of the top 3.
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Yes, I know it was fixed in jumps, because they just took over the rules for singles, but were throw jumps rules fixed?
It should work the same because th4S<< is a 'different entity' than th3S.
Although having said that, I don't think that anybody has ever attempted the same jump with different number of revolutions in the FS yet so who knows.
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Ziggy, that's why I'm confused. I don't think anyone has tried it.
If C&S do it, they should seek advice, I think.
I think their ultimate goal was a 4S throw & and 3A throw, but the 4S has gelled and the 3A hasn't, as much. Meanwhile, they don't do 3Loth or 3Fth or 3Lzth, although I don't see why it's a problem for them, but different teams find different things difficult.
If C&S do it, they should seek advice, I think.
I think their ultimate goal was a 4S throw & and 3A throw, but the 4S has gelled and the 3A hasn't, as much. Meanwhile, they don't do 3Loth or 3Fth or 3Lzth, although I don't see why it's a problem for them, but different teams find different things difficult.
I'll change my prediction for ladies
1.Yuna:I'm still going to stick with Yuna, for her consistency and her ability to fully rotate all of her jumps
2.Mao:Although I still prefer her FS over SP, I have to admit that I was impressed by her 4CC SP.
3.Carolina or Ashley or Akiko:I really hope that Ashley does well at Worlds. But I don't want to leave Carolina out of my prediction list, too, and Akiko is skating better now, so...
4.Carolina or Ashley or Akiko
5.Ashley or Akiko
6.Liza T. or Adelina
7.Liza T. or Adelina
8.Kanako
9.Gracie or Kiira
10.Gracie Kiira:I hope Kiira recovered from her injury and is ready to compete now
11.Zijun
12.Valentina or Kaetlyn
13.Valentina or Kaetlyn
14.Maybe 3rd lady from Russia?
1.Yuna:I'm still going to stick with Yuna, for her consistency and her ability to fully rotate all of her jumps
2.Mao:Although I still prefer her FS over SP, I have to admit that I was impressed by her 4CC SP.
3.Carolina or Ashley or Akiko:I really hope that Ashley does well at Worlds. But I don't want to leave Carolina out of my prediction list, too, and Akiko is skating better now, so...
4.Carolina or Ashley or Akiko
5.Ashley or Akiko
6.Liza T. or Adelina
7.Liza T. or Adelina
8.Kanako
9.Gracie or Kiira
10.Gracie Kiira:I hope Kiira recovered from her injury and is ready to compete now
11.Zijun
12.Valentina or Kaetlyn
13.Valentina or Kaetlyn
14.Maybe 3rd lady from Russia?
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Men is going to be hard to predict, as all contenders have shown inconsistencies. Here's some numbers (GP, Nats, senior B, EC/4CC included)
Chan
Min: 243.43 (SC)
Max: 273.75 (Nats)
Average: 259.55
Verdict: Highest average, though nats results pulls it up. No definite trend, perhaps slightly rising.
Takahashi
Min: 222.77 (4CC)
Max: 280.40 (Nats)
Average: 251.17
Verdict: Solid average, but also the most inconsistent. Trend: Rollercoaster, I suppose...
Hanyu
Min: 243.74 (SA)
Max: 285.23 (Nats)
Average: 258.13
Verdict: Good average. Upward trend until 4CC.
Fernandez
Min: 228.78 (Nats)
Max: 274.87 (EC)
Average: 247.37
Verdict. Average lower, but Nats pulls it down and he had no competition there. Otherwise his average is 251.08. Otherwise on the rise.
Reynolds
Min: 192.12 (Ondrej)
Max: 261.26 (Nats)
Average: 224.45
Verdict. Low average, but he started the season slow because of UR's. Very steep rising trend.
Amodio
Min: 214.25 (TEB)
Max: 250.53 (EC)
Average: 228.86
Verdict: Also slow start, but definite on the rise.
Brezina
Min: 201.71 (NT)
Max: 243.52 (EC)
Average: 218.51
Verdict: Slow start, but getting it together now.
Chan
Min: 243.43 (SC)
Max: 273.75 (Nats)
Average: 259.55
Verdict: Highest average, though nats results pulls it up. No definite trend, perhaps slightly rising.
Takahashi
Min: 222.77 (4CC)
Max: 280.40 (Nats)
Average: 251.17
Verdict: Solid average, but also the most inconsistent. Trend: Rollercoaster, I suppose...
Hanyu
Min: 243.74 (SA)
Max: 285.23 (Nats)
Average: 258.13
Verdict: Good average. Upward trend until 4CC.
Fernandez
Min: 228.78 (Nats)
Max: 274.87 (EC)
Average: 247.37
Verdict. Average lower, but Nats pulls it down and he had no competition there. Otherwise his average is 251.08. Otherwise on the rise.
Reynolds
Min: 192.12 (Ondrej)
Max: 261.26 (Nats)
Average: 224.45
Verdict. Low average, but he started the season slow because of UR's. Very steep rising trend.
Amodio
Min: 214.25 (TEB)
Max: 250.53 (EC)
Average: 228.86
Verdict: Also slow start, but definite on the rise.
Brezina
Min: 201.71 (NT)
Max: 243.52 (EC)
Average: 218.51
Verdict: Slow start, but getting it together now.
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Mens
1. Chan
2. Hanyu
3. Takahashi
Pairs
1. V/T
2. S/S
3. Really an open competition here between B/L, D/R, MT/M, and P/T, because it's in Canada I really think MT/M and D/R have a real shot here. Especially since B/L and P/T haven't skated in a while, may be rusty
1. Chan
2. Hanyu
3. Takahashi
Pairs
1. V/T
2. S/S
3. Really an open competition here between B/L, D/R, MT/M, and P/T, because it's in Canada I really think MT/M and D/R have a real shot here. Especially since B/L and P/T haven't skated in a while, may be rusty
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Men
１ Patrick
2 Javier
3 Yuzuru
Ladies
1 Mao
2 Yu-na
3 Carolina or Adelina
１ Patrick
2 Javier
3 Yuzuru
Ladies
1 Mao
2 Yu-na
3 Carolina or Adelina
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Ladies
1. Yuna
2. Mao
3. Tuk
1. Yuna
2. Mao
3. Tuk
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now after 4CC I can weigh in
Ladies:
1 Kim
2 Kostner
3 Asada
Men
1 Hanyu
2 Fernandez
3 Chan - even his pcs cushion wont be enough
Pairs
1 V/T
2 S/S
3 D/R - locked as Canadians
Ice Dance - locks
1 V/M
2 D/W - would love for them to win but this is impossible to happen
3 P/B
Ladies:
1 Kim
2 Kostner
3 Asada
Men
1 Hanyu
2 Fernandez
3 Chan - even his pcs cushion wont be enough
Pairs
1 V/T
2 S/S
3 D/R - locked as Canadians
Ice Dance - locks
1 V/M
2 D/W - would love for them to win but this is impossible to happen
3 P/B
ladies
yu-na
mao
carolina kostner or elizaveta, adelina, kaetlyn=despite 4cc, akiko
men
chan
fernandez
yuzuru, daisuke or kevin reynolds
pairs
s/s or vt
3 d/r
dance
would like davis/white but probably be virture and moir
davis/white
pechalat/bourzat or the russians bobrova/soliev or ilynkh and katsalpov
yu-na
mao
carolina kostner or elizaveta, adelina, kaetlyn=despite 4cc, akiko
men
chan
fernandez
yuzuru, daisuke or kevin reynolds
pairs
s/s or vt
3 d/r
dance
would like davis/white but probably be virture and moir
davis/white
pechalat/bourzat or the russians bobrova/soliev or ilynkh and katsalpov
Men:
1. Chan (surprisingly putting him first is going out on a limb here)
2. Fernandez
3. Hanyu
Spoilers: Takahashi, Mura, Reynolds
Ladies:
1. Kim (i think the mystique of yuna kim will put her on top)
2. Asada
3. Kostner
Spoilers: Wagner, Suzuki, Li Ziqun, Osmond, or one of the Russian girls
Pairs:
1. V/T
2. D/R
3. S/S (i feel that due to injury they are a little off this season)
Spoilers: Mt/M, B/L
Dance:
1. V/M (my head thinks D/W but whatever, going with my heart)
2. D/W
3. B/S (initially picked P/B but after looking at scores with P/B best at gpf only a point ahead of B/S best at euro... and factoring in injury/lost time, i'm going with b/s instead)
Spoilers: P/B, I/K
1. Chan (surprisingly putting him first is going out on a limb here)
2. Fernandez
3. Hanyu
Spoilers: Takahashi, Mura, Reynolds
Ladies:
1. Kim (i think the mystique of yuna kim will put her on top)
2. Asada
3. Kostner
Spoilers: Wagner, Suzuki, Li Ziqun, Osmond, or one of the Russian girls
Pairs:
1. V/T
2. D/R
3. S/S (i feel that due to injury they are a little off this season)
Spoilers: Mt/M, B/L
Dance:
1. V/M (my head thinks D/W but whatever, going with my heart)
2. D/W
3. B/S (initially picked P/B but after looking at scores with P/B best at gpf only a point ahead of B/S best at euro... and factoring in injury/lost time, i'm going with b/s instead)
Spoilers: P/B, I/K
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Ladies
1. Yu-Na Kim
2. Mao Asada
3. Carolina Kostner.
Wish List
1. Akiko Suzuki
2. Mao Asada
3. Yu-Na Kim
1. Yu-Na Kim
2. Mao Asada
3. Carolina Kostner.
Wish List
1. Akiko Suzuki
2. Mao Asada
3. Yu-Na Kim
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Ladies:
For the gold medal, Mao, Yuna and Carolina are neck and neck. It will all come down to who can jump most cleanly on the day, and there are too many unknown factors to even make a guess as to how they'll be scored. Outside hopefuls for bronze are Elizaveta, Adelina, Ashley and Akiko.
Men:
For the gold medal, Javier and Patrick are neck and neck. Outside hopefuls for silver/bronze are Yuzuru and Daisuke.
Dance:
Either V/M or D/W will win gold and the other one will get silver. P/B for bronze.
For the gold medal, Mao, Yuna and Carolina are neck and neck. It will all come down to who can jump most cleanly on the day, and there are too many unknown factors to even make a guess as to how they'll be scored. Outside hopefuls for bronze are Elizaveta, Adelina, Ashley and Akiko.
Men:
For the gold medal, Javier and Patrick are neck and neck. Outside hopefuls for silver/bronze are Yuzuru and Daisuke.
Dance:
Either V/M or D/W will win gold and the other one will get silver. P/B for bronze.
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My updated list:
1. Mao Asada
2. Kim Yuna
3. Carolina Kostner
4. Ashley Wagner
5. Akiko Suzuki
6. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
7. Gracie Gold
8. Kanako Murakami
9. Adelina Sotnikova
10. Zijun Li
1. Mao Asada
2. Kim Yuna
3. Carolina Kostner
4. Ashley Wagner
5. Akiko Suzuki
6. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
7. Gracie Gold
8. Kanako Murakami
9. Adelina Sotnikova
10. Zijun Li
