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- Dec 7, 2022
In a way I cannot really understand why you wouldn't just post a name and a photo, say "here, that's my wife and me", and ignore paparazzi on the door, ignore when they make up stuff. It's what I would do. I would also contemplate moving to another country. I would be very annoyed and angry but I wouldn't end the relationship to the person I love.
But I know that Japanese culture is different and I am aware that this whole fan culture, in which I don't want to include the normal hardcore fans, but those Hanyu fans that really are crazy - and there are some - seems very similar or even connected to the k-pop/japanese idol culture and it is scary - I wouldn't so much differentiate between media and fans in that case, because from what I can see it's a complex system with complex ties and relations. -
I already found it very weird that Shoma Uno and Marin Honda kept their long term relationship secret and only went public due to basically getting forced to do so. -
There are obviously things I simply cannot fully imagine and that go beyond someone standing in front of your door and wanting to take pictures as you shop groceries.
In addition the culture to keep private things private is definitely much stronger in Japan than here, as is the fear of public shame for things people in Europe would never feel ashamed about.
How anyone can blame Hanyu for not stopping these people I don't know. He had no social media, he never talked about his private life or did home stories as far as I know, and now that he has some social media, as far as I'm aware it's basically training and work videos. How can you stop people from fantasizing about you, from making you your over the top idol, etc.? (Without these kind of fans the tabloids would not be that interested, even if they are not bought by them they bring interest among others with them, that's just the way it goes.) It's not possible. He could have said goodbye, that's it, I'm not doing any public performances anymore - but how can you demand that from someone just in order to not get crazy attention?
There are lots of people complaining about paparazzi and such with whom I don't have much sympathy. Some royals come to mind. If you don't want that, fine, maybe stop constantly doing your dirty laundry in the public eye yourself, stop making money by selling your private life stories etc. But Hanyu - really all I ever saw from him publically was absolutely non-private stuff. Public appearances, yes, but only in regards to more or less figure skating.
One major aspect I see here is that he himself says he's inexperienced, and it's what I would expect: If you are not used to this, you have not yet found a way to deal with it, a young couple might have different views on how to handle these things best, and they might simply be under a lot of emotional stress and not deal with it in the most rational way like an outsider would do.
I feel for the wife more than for Hanyu himself, actually. It looks like she really only wanted a private love story and never be in the public eye at all in any way.
But I know that Japanese culture is different and I am aware that this whole fan culture, in which I don't want to include the normal hardcore fans, but those Hanyu fans that really are crazy - and there are some - seems very similar or even connected to the k-pop/japanese idol culture and it is scary - I wouldn't so much differentiate between media and fans in that case, because from what I can see it's a complex system with complex ties and relations. -
I already found it very weird that Shoma Uno and Marin Honda kept their long term relationship secret and only went public due to basically getting forced to do so. -
There are obviously things I simply cannot fully imagine and that go beyond someone standing in front of your door and wanting to take pictures as you shop groceries.
In addition the culture to keep private things private is definitely much stronger in Japan than here, as is the fear of public shame for things people in Europe would never feel ashamed about.
How anyone can blame Hanyu for not stopping these people I don't know. He had no social media, he never talked about his private life or did home stories as far as I know, and now that he has some social media, as far as I'm aware it's basically training and work videos. How can you stop people from fantasizing about you, from making you your over the top idol, etc.? (Without these kind of fans the tabloids would not be that interested, even if they are not bought by them they bring interest among others with them, that's just the way it goes.) It's not possible. He could have said goodbye, that's it, I'm not doing any public performances anymore - but how can you demand that from someone just in order to not get crazy attention?
There are lots of people complaining about paparazzi and such with whom I don't have much sympathy. Some royals come to mind. If you don't want that, fine, maybe stop constantly doing your dirty laundry in the public eye yourself, stop making money by selling your private life stories etc. But Hanyu - really all I ever saw from him publically was absolutely non-private stuff. Public appearances, yes, but only in regards to more or less figure skating.
One major aspect I see here is that he himself says he's inexperienced, and it's what I would expect: If you are not used to this, you have not yet found a way to deal with it, a young couple might have different views on how to handle these things best, and they might simply be under a lot of emotional stress and not deal with it in the most rational way like an outsider would do.
I feel for the wife more than for Hanyu himself, actually. It looks like she really only wanted a private love story and never be in the public eye at all in any way.