Well, he did end up using two recycled programmes at the last Olympics
And he's only skated this year's ones twice.
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Same! I'm caucasian living in the US but Heaven and Earth from nationals is one of my favorite programs and performances of all time.
I say this as an uber - He tends to 'flop' over to the other foot in his 1st spin, the Camel-change-Camel. It would improve dramatically if he could 'pop' instead of 'flop'. It's a small thing. Otherwise, he is no Swiss skater, but I find his spins fast, centered, well-extendedSome fans and critics have commented that they didn't like either of Nathan's programs this season, and particularly not the fp. I don't know if it's the music or the choreo, or both that some people didn't like. I've always enjoyed watching both of Nathan's programs this season, though perhaps the music is a bit cerebral for some tastes. Also, it's an unusual season, which meant no skater could get mileage on new programs.
The way Nathan skated his fp at Worlds was athletically and aesthetically pleasing. The Philip Glass music has different nuances that resonated with Nathan and his choreographer, Shae Lynn. I got a lot out of watching Nathan's Worlds fp performance because he was so on fire and very present as the the program built. The way the program is structured and some of the movement patterns remind me a great deal of Nathan's 2015 Junior Worlds program. The below CBC video of that 2015 performance was commentated by Kurt Browning, Carol Lane, and apparently Tracy Wilson:
Nathan's 2021 Worlds performance (Russian Eurosport; German; Russian):
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Nathan isn't the best spinner and his camel positions aren't very good, but he gets the job done. The seeming ease with which he performed this program is amazing because it's very hard to be this clean and present with the musical nuances, while completing such jam-packed technical difficulty. As commentators said, Nathan wasn't even breathing hard when the program ended. Plus, the difficult jump combos in the second half seemed to flow out of him with even more excitement than those at the beginning of the program. The German and Russian commentators apparently were exclaiming over the quad toe, euler, triple flip, which they said no one else has ever done. Nathan then immediately came around and landed another quad toe with a triple toe added. All of those jumps in the second half gained bonus points. He didn't even appear to break a sweat. This is probably one of the reasons why TT&J seemed to be rendered almost speechless. They probably wished they were in the arena to witness this performance. I sure wish I could get to witness such a performance by Nathan up-close. Stunning.
It resonated with me how, during the Q&A afterward, Nathan answered the question about his mindset in coming from behind: He said that he reminded himself how fortunate he was to be competing (with all the recent uncertainties) and that he didn't know how many more opportunities he would have to compete at Worlds, which helped to calm and focus his mind. So his performance was about gratitude and about staying in the moment and making the most of the time he has left in his career. And, oh yes, in the end it was about winning, but he wasn't focused on thinking about winning, the way he apparently was in the sp. He was focused on doing his job the best he could with intention, joy, and fierce desire. Hopefully, some of Nathan's fellow U.S. teammates can learn from Nathan's example of how to perform at a high level under pressure.
A very interesting video. Tracy Wilson does not commentate for the CBC, but I can understand why you thought the woman giving the introduction was her. I had to listen and think for quite a while before I could recognize her as Brenda Irving.The way the program is structured and some of the movement patterns remind me a great deal of Nathan's 2015 Junior Worlds program. The below CBC video of that 2015 performance was commentated by Kurt Browning, Carol Lane, and apparently Tracy Wilson:
I think that the idea about his retirement could come up because it was the first time when his "love of skating" was not visible. But it well could be only a bad day matter.
I would love to see Jason land a fully rotated quad though.That's not how I read Tavi's post at all.
The discussion drifted, as it often does. The point was made that Jason had landed a quad at Skate America some years back. The response was that it was called UR. Another response was that Adam's quad, *at the same competition* was called rotated, yet was more UR than Jason's. I am not sure if the response that Tavi quoted was even referring to the Skate America competition, so it was confusing to me. But I was presuming it was referring to SA, because the entire conversation before then had been about SA. Thus, a query about whether tech panels should be consistent *in the same competition*.
No one is saying Jason's quad at Worlds was fully rotated. It doesn't matter to me, I'm so happy for his sake he stood up. As long as I get to see his beautiful and athletic skating, spinning and transitions I'm a happy camper
Yeah, I haven't noticed the foot flop, but I get what you mean. It's a bit awkward; not a seamless transition. I agree Nathan's spins are fast and well-centered. His spin positions are generally okay, but the leg line in his camel position isn't particularly the best. IOW, not classically perfect. Still, he gets the job done. No one is perfect at everything, although some skaters are more well-rounded than others.
I was at Skate America that year, and both Jason and Adam performed some amazingly beautiful programs. Jason landed the quad in his free skate, but I don't think the judges expected him to land it that easily, so apparently they knee-jerk thought it must have been under-rotated. The problem is the judges don't always have good camera angles to make these crucial judgements. Plus, they are usually harsher in judging skaters who haven't shown proven consistency on quads.
Nathan is a good spinner, with as @Olympic said, fast, well-centered, well-extended spins. So with that ability, he more than gets the job done with spins which, added to his other boffo elements, will garner a lot of points from the judges. The judges enjoy giving points to highly competitive skaters who are consistent. Look at the GOE and PCS points thrown at the messy free skates of the top three ladies because of their tech abilities. In Nathan's case, he is a very well-rounded skater athletically and aesthetically, which counts for a lot. Even despite the views of some fans who complain because they prefer other men competitors over Nathan.
Well said @BlissfulSynergy - Beyond the jumps and spins, he garners Lv 4 on the FW and he gets good GOE on the Choreo seq. when he cuts loose at the end of the LP. It is smart that Team Nathan put that element at the end, because it is an often-ignored element, but he can score well when he skates w/ abandon on the crest of the music. It goes to show how not only Nathan is a great skater, but he and his team carefully calculate everything. I think it is the reason for his huge success.
I cut him slack on the camel since he had back injuries. Team Nathan has been great so far (knock on wood) at managing him.
