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I posted before that if you assume the worst of all these officials and their tools and trust only your own eyes and opinions, then there will never be a satisfactory system to you, unless you are the sole decider of every thing. But then how do the rest of us trust you, especially since you are so aware of all the opportunities and ways to be unfair?
Mrs. Mathman broke my Michelle Kwan snow globe. Tried to pretend it was an accident.
According to gkelly, posting on another thread, it goes like this. The tech specialist makes the call in real time -- let's say, "wrong edge!" The judges are expected to take this call into account in their scores for that element -- let's say they reduce the GOE by 2 points from what they would have given if the edge had been correct.
Except that the tech panel's video feed isn't released to the public, and it's different from the network/broadcast feeds for events. They also only use one camera angle, unlike other high-profile sports that use instant replay. The tech panel can and should be argued against. Sometimes it might be political, sometimes it might just be simple non-malicious mistakes, but they can and do eff up, both in terms of consistency (ie, not calling an obvious flutz on Skater A but calling it for Skater B) and just being flat-out wrong.
But if you're just working from one angle and that angle isn't any better than the official camera angle, possibly worse, then your call isn't any more reliable than that of the tech panel.
Similarly, although tech panel members might be influenced by bias or politics, fans are likely to be far more biased and emotional.
Does he actually say this as the skater is so busy with his arms, one has no idea what the feet are doing?"CiSe3." (Circular step sequence, level 3)
Your post is well thought out and according to the system you are correct, but on a personal level, I look at the footwork of a skater throughout his program, and often cringe at the footwork sequence since it is a rehashing of school figure turns and altogether too similar to what everyone is doing. The results of the scoring should be the same for all. If, for any reason, there is the unlikely innovation in the steps, the credit belongs to the choreographer moreso than the skater.I don't see your point. Are you suggesting they get rid of step sequences? All the turns can be more or less sloppy and more or less difficult outside of figures. All the errors that would make a bad figure are still errors when they're done while freeskating. The level requirements for footwork mean that all the different kinds of turns and moves need to be counted and up verified, that's what the tech panel does.
Does he actually say this as the skater is so busy with his arms, one has no idea what the feet are doing?
I believe you to be a card carrying Defender of the System with no faith in suggestions which touch upon the unquestionable rules.It is the tech guys' job to watch the skater's feet.
I believe you to be a card carrying Defender of the System with no faith in suggestions which touch upon the unquestionable rules.
Now what does the tech guys do once they have watched the feet? Announce to the judges that the Level is such and such because of his expertise in Musicality? When was the last time a skater displayed tempo with legato and brio? The last time I saw it was with Yagudin and I didn't need the tech boys to tell me that, and neither did the judges.
It is the tech guys' job to watch the skater's feet.
Your post is well thought out and according to the system you are correct, but on a personal level, I look at the footwork of a skater throughout his program, and often cringe at the footwork sequence since it is a rehashing of school figure turns and altogether too similar to what everyone is doing. The results of the scoring should be the same for all. If, for any reason, there is the unlikely innovation in the steps, the credit belongs to the choreographer moreso than the skater.
Has anyone checked the Levels announced by the TP from one GP to another GP to a Worlds? Did the skater get the same Level throughout? He should have if all TPs are experts.
^^^ Just chalk me up as the Simon Cowell of Golden Skate. Somebody has to see life through not so rosy glasses. Otherwise there is no reason to debate except for gushing your favorites. Oh joy, Oh rapture!
Is there a right answer on this??I
Easy question: Should Sheldon Cooper be a single skater, pair skater, a tech guy or a judge? All wrong answers yield hilarious scenarios!
Is there a right answer on this??
Has anyone checked the Levels announced by the TP from one GP to another GP to a Worlds? Did the skater get the same Level throughout? He should have if all TPs are experts.