Liza won Elena R. at SrNats-2013 because of really excellent Liza's FS. Adelina has score of these SrNats only 0.51 lower than Elena.
It was very close at Russian nationals but I don't think it would've been at the end.
Liza won Elena R. at SrNats-2013 because of really excellent Liza's FS. Adelina has score of these SrNats only 0.51 lower than Elena.
This is true, but I mean towards the proposition another year would give the younger ones times to catch up. The judges wont be open to a total changing of the guard until after the Olympics are over. The younger ones had the chance to establish themselves the new World order this quad while Kim was away or not skating well, Asada was struggling and Kostner was lutzless, and failed. It is too late now, the best one can do at the upcoming Olympics is a bronze with a lights out skate. Their time is after the Olympics.
My whole point was in not comparing the scores but the skates Adelina and liza had at worlds vs the one julia had at jr worlds. I don't see how anyone could say Julia wouldn't Have beaten both Adelina and Liza if they were all the same competition. Because with julia almost winning her event and Adelina and Julia bombing theirs I think it's obvious.
The younger ones never really had time to establish themselves for Sochi compared to past Olympics. Gracie, Liza and Adelina will only have had one Worlds appearance under their belts before the Olympics unlike in the past. For some like Liza and Adelina they were to young and Gracie wasn't even really a footnote just two years ago. Not that it would have mattered much because this Olympics will see the defending Gold and Silver medalist returning which i don't think has ever happened along with a strong veteran like Kostner.
Personal best PCS of Jilia - 57.43, earned at 2012/2013 (GP Event). Why can not it be higher at next season?
Personal best PCS of Liza - 61.65, earned also at 2012/2013 (Euro).
Both have progress in PCS season to season.
Gao has received PCS over 57 as well, and included in the higher bracket is Mirai, who did not break 60 for PCS this season but has in the past and likely could again with a really good skate.
Sr Worlds this year was much more competitive than Jr.Worlds, so there's no use in comparing results from Jr Worlds to Senior Worlds.
Do you think Julia would've done well enough to bring 3 spots to Team Russia if she competed at senior Worlds??
Yes, it is most probable.This is true, but I mean towards the proposition another year would give the younger ones times to catch up. The judges wont be open to a total changing of the guard until after the Olympics are over. The younger ones had the chance to establish themselves the new World order this quad while Kim was away or not skating well, Asada was struggling and Kostner was lutzless, and failed. It is too late now, the best one can do at the upcoming Olympics is a bronze with a lights out skate. Their time is after the Olympics.
All of those skaters have beaten Gold, so I don't see why it is so inconceivable to suggest that they can do so again. In fact, Gold has never beaten Lipnitskaya or Korpi and lost to Suzuki 3 of the 4 times she faced her last season. Gold isn't exactly the model of consistency, so it's not unthinkable that she will have another meltdown skate. I am still not convinced that she has conquered her nerves and is any good at skating when anything is on the line. If Gold lands her jumps, she should be on the podium at her two Grand Prix events, even though she is skating to music that is all wrong for her as a skater. But that is a big if. She drew two tough fields at her Grand Prix events. She will have to face Kim, Suzuki, Lipnitskaya, Korpi, Osmond, Gao, and Leonova at Skate Canada. And Asada, Suzuki, Radionova, Li, Leonova, Nagasu, etc. at NHK Trophy. So, I don't think it's outlandish to suggest that she will finish off the podium at her events should she have another one of her nervous, error-filled skates. In fact, her poor short programs could easily bury her at both of her events.
Tara Lipinski and Oksana Baiul both were Worlds Champions just before they won Olympics.This is true. I dont agree with the new age rules at all. Had they been in place we would have never heard of Tara Lipinski or Oksana Baiul. Then again I dont think there is a phenom from this age group who would have reached the top by Sochi regardless, especialy as you said with the strongest veterans staying in.
Tara Lipinski and Oksana Baiul both were Worlds Champions just before they won Olympics.
Gracies biggest enemy at this point is herself. She needs to stop trying to be perfect. It never worked for Sasha either.
Skaters develop at their own pace and Gracie had a rough first year as a Junior with nerves and growth spurts. I'm glad she wasn't a 13 year old jumping bean that was overhyped it allowed her to improve on her jumps and make her ready to take the next steps in her skating. Now she can focus on the rest of her skills to become a better all-around skater. And 16 isn't young to still be a Junior skater. We've gotten used to the next big thing dominated Juniors at 13-14 and two years later they are already on decline.
I don't know if it's trying to be perfect or trying too hard to prove what she's able to do (LOOK at this -- oops!) or getting too jazzed up and overusing her adrenaline, but yes, she's her own biggest enemy. I truly believe that narrowing her focus to 3Lz+3T (x2) and 2A+3T along with improving her IN, CH and PE instead of 3Lz+3T, 3F+3T, and 3F+1Lo+3S and maybe getting around at some point to work on her soft skills after she does all the above will improve her consistency. I know other than trying to generate a buzz of her amazing athleticism, I didn't understand "the throw crap at the wall" technical approach last season and felt that this was very bad strategy. BUT, I am not a fly on the wall when she and her team plan for the year...
Gracies biggest enemy at this point is herself. She needs to stop trying to be perfect. It never worked for Sasha either.
Gracie started skating just before she was 8, i.e. very old for beginning.how come that was only Gracie's second international competition? For a junior, 16 is fairly "old", is it not?
Julia has super consistency going for her. Her Finlandia scores indicate she could take 4th over Murakami perhaps if she skates her best, which she often does; and that would have been enough for 3 spots possibly. The how low Julia would place if all skated clean talks are meaningless since most of the girls skate nowhere near clean typically, even in an average to above average performance for them. Her strength is a bad competition for her is 1 or 2 mistakes. In contrast to Sotnikova who a good competition is 4 or 5 mistakes.
To be honest i think they both came along at a time when their wasn't a lot of depth in Ladies skating. Oksana came along right after the Olympics and really with the exception of Michelle who else was really good around 1997? Chen was in decline Bobek slacked off and Irina and Maria were not contenders yet.