Men's 300+ Total Points Club

CanadianSkaterGuy · Feb 4, 2016

HanDomi said:
But he doesn't have any transitions to jumps

Hah I assume the "

" was being sarcastic. Chan has lots of transitions into/out of his jumps -- so much that people complained he had too many, although this season he's scaled back a bit (of course, those same people now say he doesn't have enough TR :laugh:

).

HanDomi · Feb 4, 2016

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
Hah I assume the "" was being sarcastic. Chan has lots of transitions into/out of his jumps -- so much that people complained he had too many, although this season he's scaled back a bit (of course, those same people now say he doesn't have enough TR ).

I talked about Jin

But Chan also doesn't have transitions to quads and 3A currently.

CanadianSkaterGuy · Feb 4, 2016

HanDomi said:
I talked about Jin

But Chan also doesn't have transitions to quads and 3A currently.

Ah, thanks for clarifying. Yeah, Jin has NO transitions into his jumps... or very simple steps like mohawks preceding them. Given how effortless they look, you'd have to imagine that will be a point of improvement for him in the future. He could at least try more exit-transitions to show control of his landings and bump up his TR mark (Jin).

Yeah, it seems for now Chan has abandoned his rocker entry for now, but it's yet another way his tech content has been scaled back (including the 3S series).

Franklin99 · Feb 19, 2016

Jin started of this season scoring 90+in his SP at COC. Then his SP went up to 95+ at NHK. And just today, he scored 98+ SP. I predict a 100+ SP score at Worlds if he's clean. And with a Lori Choreo LP next season, if he skates his 4 quad LP clean, and barring any injury, Boyang will be only the 3rd skater to score 300+.

4everchan · Feb 19, 2016

I hope not. I recognize his amazing potential but his rise in PCS is a bit premature for me... Even Uno's who is mile aheads of him is not in the same league as the fab four

but scores about the same... I guess the judges don't know what to do anymore... and yet again new rules or scoring will come... sigh...

Franklin99 said:
Jin started of this season scoring 90+in his SP at COC. Then his SP went up to 95+ at NHK. And just today, he scored 98+ SP. I predict a 100+ SP score at Worlds if he's clean. And with a Lori Choreo LP next season, if he skates his 4 quad LP clean, and barring any injury, Boyang will be only the 3rd skater to score 300+.

Franklin99 · Feb 19, 2016

4everchan said:
I hope not. I recognize his amazing potential but his rise in PCS is a bit premature for me... Even Uno's who is mile aheads of him is not in the same league as the fab four but scores about the same... I guess the judges don't know what to do anymore... and yet again new rules or scoring will come... sigh...

I agree. He's not as sharp here (4CC) as he was at NHK (jumps had wobbly landing, and he was slightly out of sync with the music) and yet his score increased by over 3 points?! I don't think ISU/judges rapidly inflating scores is the answer to increase viewers/attract new fans.

CanadianSkaterGuy · Feb 19, 2016

Franklin99 said:
I agree. He's not as sharp here (4CC) as he was at NHK (jumps had wobbly landing, and he was slightly out of sync with the music) and yet his score increased by over 3 points?! I don't think ISU/judges rapidly inflating scores is the answer to increase viewers/attract new fans.

He's essentially the male Medvedeva this season. I'm glad he's getting credit for his programs and edge work but that was a big score for a performance that was not clean. It's awful when a skater gets a personal best for a flawed skate when they've performed the same tech content/program cleanly in the past.

MaxSwagg · Feb 19, 2016

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
He's essentially the male Medvedeva this season. I'm glad he's getting credit for his programs and edge work but that was a big score for a performance that was not clean. It's awful when a skater gets a personal best for a flawed skate when they've performed the same tech content/program cleanly in the past.

We told you. Yuzu opened the flood gates to "big scores" with his astronomical scores. A 90 SP now seems like a mediocre score...

CanadianSkaterGuy · Feb 20, 2016

MAXSwagg said:
We told you. Yuzu opened the flood gates to "big scores" with his astronomical scores. A 90 SP now seems like a mediocre score...

I don't disagree. I said for a while that the floodgates were opened especially at the GPF when it comes to PCS. Now people compare scores to a skater's maximum potential scores and then deduct points instead of look at what they put out there. Uno will probably get 92 PCS in the FS if he's clean or close to clean.

Eclair · Feb 20, 2016

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
He's essentially the male Medvedeva this season. I'm glad he's getting credit for his programs and edge work but that was a big score for a performance that was not clean. It's awful when a skater gets a personal best for a flawed skate when they've performed the same tech content/program cleanly in the past.

lol, I was like :eeking: when I saw you defending Boyang's pcs. Never thought I would ever see that. Then Handomi clarfified :laugh:

Actually Boyang is not like the male Medvedeva. Medvedeva gets her high scores from LOTS of transitions and tanoing. Boyang would be more like a imaginary female who out of nowhere suddenly jumped 3axel-3toe combinations in the sp consistently.

Eclair · Feb 20, 2016

what a mess in this thread :laugh:

we have 4everchan of whom I'm pretty sure is talking about Boyang, because he answers to Franklin99, who had Jin's name mentioned in his post.

then Franklin answered to that, probably still talking about Boyang but I'm not really sure because what he says fits better with Shoma.

then CanandianSkaterGuy answers to Franklin and (I assume) thinks Franklin is talking to about Shoma, thus writing about his edgework, that he wasn't clean and comparing him to Medvedeva.

then I answer, thinking CanadianSkaterGuy is talking about Boyang and comparing Boyang to Medvedeva, because the last time someone actually wrote down a name, instead of just referring to 'he', it was Boyang.

I suggest the following posters write names to their answers or else this is going to contiue :rofl:

CanadianSkaterGuy · Feb 20, 2016

Eclair said:
lol, I was like :eeking: when I saw you defending Boyang's pcs. Never thought I would ever see that. Then Handomi clarfified

Actually Boyang is not like the male Medvedeva. Medvedeva gets her high scores from LOTS of transitions and tanoing. Boyang would be more like a imaginary female who out of nowhere suddenly jumped 3axel-3toe combinations in the sp consistently.

Sorry o should clarify - I was saying Uno is the male Medvedeva... Junior turned senior with great success and exceedingly rapid PCS climbing.

4everchan · Feb 20, 2016

Eclair said:
what a mess in this thread

we have 4everchan of whom I'm pretty sure is talking about Boyang, because he answers to Franklin99, who had Jin's name mentioned in his post.

then Franklin answered to that, probably still talking about Boyang but I'm not really sure because what he says fits better with Shoma.

then CanandianSkaterGuy answers to Franklin and (I assume) thinks Franklin is talking to about Shoma, thus writing about his edgework, that he wasn't clean and comparing him to Medvedeva.

then I answer, thinking CanadianSkaterGuy is talking about Boyang and comparing Boyang to Medvedeva, because the last time someone actually wrote down a name, instead of just referring to 'he', it was Boyang.

I suggest the following posters write names to their answers or else this is going to contiue

lol ... yes... i was talking about Jin... but I also mentioned Uno as I think that despite the clear fact that he is way ahead in PCS than Jin, he shouldn't IMHO get scores that are approaching those of the Fab Four... even among the Fab Four I'd put Chan 1st, Yuzu a close second... then Denis, and would put Fernandez a bit lower than the other 3.... and still would have Shoma behind those....

the point in discussing PCS is really simply because it's what will make skaters like Jin break or not break 300... his TES is way over what's needed to get there.... so if PCS are now given so freely, then yeah... skaters like Jin or a Max Aaron on a good jumping day could get there....

Franklin99 · Feb 21, 2016

Aaaaand Patrick has joined the 200 LP club with a score of 203+. Can he skate a clean SP at Worlds and join the 300 club with Yuzuru and Javi?

CanadianSkaterGuy · Feb 21, 2016

Franklin99 said:
Aaaaand Patrick has joined the 200 LP club with a score of 203+. Can he skate a clean SP at Worlds and join the 300 club with Yuzuru and Javi?

Well he certainly changed my mind. I didn't think Chan would be able to add the second axel so easily (especially with his past issues) and so quickly. Hoping for a strong competition come Worlds!

4everchan · Feb 21, 2016

before he had the quad he used to do 2 3a

believe in patrick !

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
Well he certainly changed my mind. I didn't think Chan would be able to add the second axel so easily (especially with his past issues) and so quickly. Hoping for a strong competition come Worlds!

CanadianSkaterGuy · Feb 21, 2016

4everchan said:
before he had the quad he used to do 2 3a believe in patrick !

Indeed! But putting 2 quads and 2 axels in a FS - in, more remarkably, a comeback year - was not something most people expected from him (even being a fan of his). It's amazing how these skaters in the tail end of their careers (eg Mao getting a WR SP at Worlds, Wagner doing more 3-3 combos, Kostner's Olympics FS) are technically better than they've ever been.

4everchan · Feb 21, 2016

next year, plan is for 4S

let's see if he can continue to develop as gorgeously.... the quality of his jumps is stellar

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
Indeed! But putting 2 quads and 2 axels in a FS - in, more remarkably, a comeback year - was not something most people expected from him (even being a fan of his). It's amazing how these skaters in the tail end of their careers (eg Mao getting a WR SP at Worlds, Wagner doing more 3-3 combos, Kostner's Olympics FS) are technically better than they've ever been.

CanadianSkaterGuy · Feb 21, 2016

4everchan said:
next year, plan is for 4S let's see if he can continue to develop as gorgeously.... the quality of his jumps is stellar

There was something about that Taipei ice - all the guys jumps were stellar quality, in terms of height, air position, and landings. It was like an on-switch... So surreal.

drivingmissdaisy · Feb 21, 2016

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
Indeed! But putting 2 quads and 2 axels in a FS - in, more remarkably, a comeback year - was not something most people expected from him (even being a fan of his). It's amazing how these skaters in the tail end of their careers (eg Mao getting a WR SP at Worlds, Wagner doing more 3-3 combos, Kostner's Olympics FS) are technically better than they've ever been.

Not to burst anyone's bubble, but it remains to be seen how often he can replicate this accomplishment. At the beginning of the season Mao skated a great LP at the Japan Open and everyone thought her winning everything was a done deal.

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