2019 World Championships Ladies Short Program

[Skater Boy]

One of my favorite Zhenya moments as well [emoji7] so glad she went clean. I can breath easy again haha.

Happy for Zhenya but that mistake on the combo was costly as well as the spin issues - I am surprised Brian and Tracy have not fixed at least the spins.

 

[smythe]

Provided all other things are equal, she should, but as the table shows, they weren't anywhere close. She had the shortest distance, the sixth highest jump and the slowest speed on exit. She should have a score in the middle of this group, enhanced from the the lowest of the group, due to hard entry. Instead, she is near the top.

Yes, but if you think about how the scores are awarded on a +5 -5 basis, height and distance is like one bullet and so is creative entrance. So, they balance out. She has by far the most creative entrance. Everyone else's are all kinda meh and boring tbh.

 

[Skater Boy]

alright that's it i am going home i am done with this i CAN NOT be rooting for someone that pops opening jumps nope nope nope i can't go through this for the 13000th time i need to go

I hope you are okay now.

 

[Ziotic]

Yes, but if you think about how the scores are awarded on a +5 -5 basis, height and distance is like one bullet and so is creative entrance. So, they balance out. She has by far the most creative entrance. Everyone else's are all kinda meh and boring tbh.

With the old rules yes, but you shouldn’t be eligible for the creative entrance bullet if your jump isn’t good height and distance.

 

[Mathman]

From the stats posted by Dorispulaski above, Kaori Sakamoto's Axel certainly stands out.

 

[DaNiCG]

Kaori should've being first or closer to the first, even when her TES are not as strong her PCS are, not getting a single 9 is a joke on itself. Sakoto as always getting robbed on PCS...the PCS as always being the problem, with all skaters.

Congrats to all skaters, this was a great competition, lets hope the free skate continue this way (but when is that easy?) I hope those who are still struggling (Rika) skate clean at the FS

Eunsoo was amazing

 

[Baron Vladimir]

She should have had by far the highest 2A score. But she didn't on the judges' cards.

I wonder whether the judges get to see the measured data in real time?

Another memorable 2A was Mariah Bell's, which went high and far, and was done only a couple of steps into the program, in a relatively slow tempo part of the program, and so was only average fast on exit.

The most over scored 2A was Alina Zagitova's, which was short, low, and had a relatively slow exit. She should have had a score similar to Satoko's for that element.

Thanks for the numbers :thumbsup: My take on this - Kaori's 2A was wild and off-axis in the air, she surely didn't deserve bullet 'very good body position' in my book (and probably didn't match the music that well) so i agree with +4 from the judges. Also, don't forget that Alina's 2A was done with the hardest/most original transition (i've may ever seen) which makes her 2A complitely different element as a whole, so that helped her. Judges scored Kaori's 2A with +4 across the board, Alina's 2A mostly with +3 and some +4, while Satoko got +3 across the board for her 2A, so i don't see a problem with the judges marks really when comparing those three axels.

 

[Fluture]

Happy for Zhenya but that mistake on the combo was costly as well as the spin issues - I am surprised Brian and Tracy have not fixed at least the spins.

She‘s got level four on all spins, though.

 

[Sabrina]

I am not only happy, but I really loved Evgenia's Tosca. It was a surprise to me, and her interpretation of the beautiful music was spot on. After Gaby's awful Habanera music and Alina's weird POTO, this program was simply beautiful. I also think her 3t is much better than Mariah's one, but the judges must have had their eyes closed.

 

[icetug]

May I say that I'M IN LOVE WITH KAORI'S LOOP?

Seriously, it was the most beautiful jump of the competition.

 

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She should have had by far the highest 2A score. But she didn't on the judges' cards.

I wonder whether the judges get to see the measured data in real time?

Another memorable 2A was Mariah Bell's, which went high and far, and was done only a couple of steps into the program, in a relatively slow tempo part of the program, and so was only average fast on exit.

The most over scored 2A was Alina Zagitova's, which was short, low, and had a relatively slow exit. She should have had a score similar to Satoko's for that element.

Alina has one kind of 2A entry. It is so ridiculously difficult that she had to drop it last season when she was at her OGM winner shape. I wonder what Satoko's or even Kaori's 2A parameters would be should they try the same entry. Or could they land 2A in the first place with such a charlotte? And vice versa with the usual entry Alina would show different results - she is a good jumper after all.

 

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Thank you for the video thread! Being in the Italian Alps that was my only choice to watch the short program.

The first 4 ladies were truly amazing.

Alina was skating like a champion. What a presence, what a power! That was her best POTO performance and I like music cuts by the way.

Kaori delivered as well. I said that she was skating heavy at 4CC. Nothing like that here - beautiful.

Lizbet is the embodiment of Eteri's genius. I saw both herself at her best and "previous Medvedeva" - light like a feather.

Zhenya - she is different now. But finally I liked what I saw. And I did not like the score - I would place her at par with Tursunbaeva. Well, she was not URed before.

Outstanding event and good judging - no major complaints from my side.

 

[largeman]

Just watched Alina's skate... I have to say I think it's really excellent :clapper:

 

[twirlingblades]

I was finally able to watch all the top performances. Alina was great (not sure if she was 6 points better but..). I wish she had better programs.

Zhenya is awesome, I like this program for her.

Lizbet is refreshing.

Kaori and satoko are chronically underscored on PCS.

Rika noooo!!! C’mon comeback queen!!!

Can’t wait for the long!

Edit: the top 11 scored 69+ WOW

 

[Vili67]

Maybe Alina takes now that gold she miss last time in worlds
Really waiting for friday morning to see LP

 

[Skater Boy]

I just came here to say this event is cancelled. :disapp:

wHAT? wHY? hOW? wHO???

 

[Skater Boy]

She‘s got level four on all spins, though.[/QUOT True but they aren't as fast or as polished as before.

 

[IndiaP12]

That was such a good SP event! So many good skates! Praying for the same for the FS.

 

[Tavi...]

She should have had by far the highest 2A score. But she didn't on the judges' cards.

I wonder whether the judges get to see the measured data in real time?

Another memorable 2A was Mariah Bell's, which went high and far, and was done only a couple of steps into the program, in a relatively slow tempo part of the program, and so was only average fast on exit.

The most over scored 2A was Alina Zagitova's, which was short, low, and had a relatively slow exit. She should have had a score similar to Satoko's for that element.

Name	Distance meters	Height meters	Speed on exit Km/hr	Score from Protocol
Gabrielle Daleman	2.22	0.37	11.70	4.20
Eun Soo Lim	2.40	0.41	15.1	4.57
Mariah Bell	2.71	0.45	13.5	4.24
Elizabet Tursynbaeva	2.70	0.40	16.4	4.53
Laurine Lecavelier	2.38	0.44	15.8	4.12 (bonus removed)
Sofia Samodurova	2.29	0.35	16.5	4.12 (bonus removed)
Kaori Sakamoto	3.20	0.36	20.7	4.57
Bradie Tennell	2.59	0.40	15.7	4.34
Satoko Miyahara	2.18	0.34	13.6	4.24
Evgenia Medvedeva	2.53	0.35	12.9	4.38
Rika Kihara	-	-	-	0
Alina Zagitova	2.04	0.38	12.5	4.43

Alina has one kind of 2A entry. It is so ridiculously difficult that she had to drop it last season when she was at her OGM winner shape. I wonder what Satoko's or even Kaori's 2A parameters would be should they try the same entry. Or could they land 2A in the first place with such a charlotte? And vice versa with the usual entry Alina would show different results - she is a good jumper after all.

But that’s a choice you make, isn’t it? If you go for a harder entry or preceding transition you will theoretically - and I’m sure Alina does - get higher transition scores. But if it impacts the quality of the jump in terms of distance/height, or speed on the exit, then you shouldn’t get a pass is those things. JMO.

 

[Leonardo]

Eteri wins again. The improvements that Alina and Bet showed are amazing. I would score Alina and Kaori closer and Zhenya and Bet closer as well, but that's life. The only jpn who had a real chance at scoring russian level pcs was Rika (should be Satoko), but she messed up her last and only chance to get a gold at worlds.