2019 World Championships Pairs Short Program

[Yuzuruu]

Btw are Zhenya and Vlad dating again? I thought they were broken up but he kissed her at the end very close to or maybe on the lips, so now Im cofused. Don’t get me wrong, I do not care about gossip but I have to admit I love the thought of them being a couple, they look so cute [emoji5]

 

[WeakAnkles]

I love that someone on their team looked at this sp last season, and said, "yes, candyman will be the perfect complement in the long for the olympics"

 

[GGFan]

This may just be my interpretation, but it seems like the judges weren't ready to hand the win over to J/C if they were clean. I really thought they would be propped up a bit on the pcs side, but nope.

I do wonder what would happen if S/H had been in the last group instead of the 3rd....

I don't think the win was ever going to be handed to them The teams ahead of them were not at their peak earlier in the season. Their PCS was capped by the fall and in terms of classic pairs refinement they were always going to be 3rd in PCS to a clean T/M and S/H (though close). I also think that on GOE, T/M and S/H have an advantage. J/C need to go clean in the free. They're one of the few teams who can consistently land their SBS. Ice is slippery and anything can happen.

 

[Skater Boy]

I really really wish that T/M can skate clean and win tomorrow. They were exceptional today and I'm really happy to see them happy after the kind of season that they've had.

I doubt it but you never know. I doubt Sui and Han will be clean as well. The French maybe but if SH are close the gold will go to the Chinese. T and M could be the giantkiller. If the go relatively clean and sh make a big mistake they might be able to hold off the FRench. Big news USA will have two teams next year. Real dark hourse would be the Canadians who are in fifth - if S/H tumble and or PJ and the FRench struggle they could podium. Likely no. Still two of the teams ahead are coming back from injury so you never know.

 

[Skater Boy]

If there were any justice, Sui/Han would lead over the snooze fest that is currently leading....

And can I say I do not like the Lumineers. I do not like that song. And it affects my enjoyment of the second Chinese couple.

I will show myself out now

Ah but what is justice. One can argue The chinese deserve a big break after their injuries other could argue justice is that they struggle like anyone else coming back from injury. Sweet justice is in the eye of the bheholder.

 

[neusw]

S/H skating last tomorrow. Hopefully closing it out with a bang and giving what that absolute masterpiece of a program deserves.

 

[gold12345]

I am happy for the US but really I think they should be behind the N Koreans. Someone really likes C/L or wants USA to have two teams.

I'm not sure I'd go as low as Ryom/Kim, but Cain/LeDuc should be behind Ziegler/Kiefer and Hase/Seegert, maybe even Walsh/Michaud. They didn't have any elements that were strong enough to put them ahead of all those teams. The jump is C/L's strongest element, so when they miss that, they don't have a lot to fall back on. Perhaps Start Order came into play, but it shouldn't have mattered. It's not as if the judges are unfamiliar with Ziegler/Kiefer, who had a strong fall season, and there were only 19 pairs, so it's not as if it was difficult to remember how the early groups skated. Z/K and H/S both left a few points on the table, but they still were stronger than C/L today.

I could see if the Start Order was based purely on merit, but we all know the World standings are somewhat skewed based on how many events you attend/don't attend (which is why Sui/Han are always so low).

I want the US to have two spots, but I want it to be fair instead of them just handing it to us.

 

[Canada1]

I doubt it but you never know. I doubt Sui and Han will be clean as well. The French maybe but if SH are close the gold will go to the Chinese. T and M could be the giantkiller. If the go relatively clean and sh make a big mistake they might be able to hold off the FRench. Big news USA will have two teams next year. Real dark hourse would be the Canadians who are in fifth - if S/H tumble and or PJ and the FRench struggle they could podium. Likely no. Still two of the teams ahead are coming back from injury so you never know.

I agree with the Canadians being the dark horse. I was able to see their long program at Skate Canada and I think it's very underrated. There are many little choreographic sequences that are perfectly timed to the music. Good Job Julie Marcotte! I really love her programs and this fun style for these two. I can see MTM putting down a great performance of skating consistently all season, but with little errors.

 

[kevinVchicago]

Seriously, fate is cruel. So sad that happened to Vanessa. Clearly she was hurting and badly shaken. Matteo must have been as well.

Did she pop the SBS or did Morgan?

T/M were best I've ever seen them. Did they change the choreo from last season? It seems a lot better.

But dang that wasn't what I dreamed of for this final flight. One of the scariest collisions I've seen.

 

[Mohacz]

WORLD CHAMPIOSNHIPS PREDICTIONS GAME - PAIRS SMALL MEDALS​

Curious about the small podium after the Pairs SP? There are 117 participants in the game and there are as many as 35 gold, 52 silver and 16 bronze medals It must be one of the most numerous podiums

80 points Alexcdj alyssamarie Azcha Baron Vladimir Becki BravesSkateFan cathlen DenissVFan Dreamer57 dunnoww elektra blue gizmo GoneWithTheWind gonewiththewind25 Hyena invisiblespiral Kittosuni Ladybug89 lutz Marin marulia MrECartman Naaat Nadjell ntnext NYscorp6 okokok1777 Phireye Pocaguri ragdoll rikaquegira Roast Toast rosacotton RoyThree ruga satine Seven Sisters Shakuhachi Shedi0806 Skater Boy skylark Spirals for Miles Step Sequence4 StephenGfan StitchMonkey SubRosa sunnystars surimi taylor1 voolfee Winry Yuzuruu

90 points apgold Arriba627 baymax24 cabres CanadianSkaterGuy Chris Cooper Colonel Green desertskates DSQ FSLover17 GINO hoamay254 IndiaP12 itofan jenaj katymay KlausA Koatterce LaArdilla LanaD Maju Maria Anna MintGreen moonkat moonstruck Nirti NoNameFace noraaa Pandicorn readernick Sabine SashaJuliaSpins SnowWhite TheBallerina Ziotic

70 points betaincanada cake casualfan CherylDee figurefan0726 Fish in the sea Jeanie19 LadyB leilaraj lichi Nathan13 sweetice theharleyquinn TT_Fin Weathergal xibsuarz

Let's see how it changes after tomorrow's FS.

 

[Arriba627]

Did she pop the SBS or did Morgan?


But dang that wasn't what I dreamed of for this final flight. One of the scariest collisions I've seen.

Very scary. The THUD was so loud! Morgan doubled his SBS, and so did Matteo Guarise. Clearly everyone was pretty shaken up. Such a shame. Hope they're ok.

 

[kevinVchicago]

Very scary. The THUD was so loud! Morgan doubled his SBS, and so did Matteo Guarise. Clearly everyone was pretty shaken up. Such a shame. Hope they're ok.

Are you in Saitama? It was just heartbreaking. [emoji22]

 

[anonymoose_au]

To my great despair, despite the fact figure skating in Japan is usually a friendly time zone for me, the pairs are on in the middle of the day and I missed all the pairs!

However, the Russian stream is replaying some of it, I hope hope hope they'll show T/M at some point! I wanna see

They just showed Alexandra and Dmitrii, nice pair, except what the Heck is that version of Dark Eyes they're skating to?! I was just watching Plushy's FS to that music last night and whatever version Alexandra and Dmitrii are using should be burned, because it's really epic music when done right.

 

[Arriba627]

Are you in Saitama? It was just heartbreaking. [emoji22]

Don't I wish! I'm in Schaumburg! But I was watching on NBC Gold. Super scary. Nicole and Matteo were just starting to gain speed when they hit Vanessa. Lucky they weren't skating any faster. Thank goodness those incidents are rare.

 

[kevinVchicago]

No, I'm in Schaumburg! [emoji23] But I was watching on NBC Gold. Super scary. Nicole and Matteo were just starting to gain speed when they hit Vanessa. Lucky they weren't skating any faster. Thank goodness those incidents are rare.

I was hoping I could live vicariously through you! But best not to have seen that one in person. [emoji22]

 

[LadyB]

I think the commentary is more on the program itself rather than any mistakes they've had today. It's been clear since the beginning of the season that it was the weaker program, and it's a variation on the same alternative theme they've been going with.

I'm not blaming their mistakes to Guillame at all. My comment was on the choreography. This program is what I would've expected from them in around the 2014-2016 seasons where they were figuring out their own kind of artistic flavour. This Uninvited program just feels like a step back from who they are today.

Okay, fair point :thumbsup:

methinks Guillame should've refine his choreographic skills before giving any to skaters like James/Cipres

This just sounded a bit like he had talked them into it and J/C were too innocent to see that it wasn't the right programme for them. They should know what they are capable of, they could have said 'non'.
Anyway, they are really unlucky at big competitions sometimes. Still time to make it onto the podium.

 

[dorispulaski]

The vids are beginning to show up on ok.ru

Check the video thread

 

[anonymoose_au]

Don't I wish! I'm in Schaumburg! But I was watching on NBC Gold. Super scary. Nicole and Matteo were just starting to gain speed when they hit Vanessa. Lucky they weren't skating any faster. Thank goodness those incidents are rare.

Oh no, I didn't know there was a collision. Poor Vanessa, I hope she's OK? Although I see they're in 7th right now I hope they can make up some ground in the FS, they've been having a great season!

 

[flanker]

Just saw some pairs, Tarasova/Morozov SP was pure perfection. They were like completely different pair than how they looked on Euros

 

[Sk8swan]

The collision was scary! Tbh at such level in a warm up with other pairs you cannot allow yourself to do backcrossovers alone without really looking where you are going... this said it was unfortunate that she and Matteo just changed trajectory at the exact same time (he trying to avoid her after pushing Nicole away so she would not collide herself). From what I have been told Matteo hurt his ribs in the fall, I don't know about her. It was obvious the collision had an impact on both performance and that's too bad... hope both of them will be fine by tomorrow!