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Jumps with creative (uncommon) entrances and/or exits

gkelly

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I'm really impressed with difficult entrances but don't like creative exits, because exits are less risky. If a landing is not quite right, the skater can just forego the creative exit. But with a difficult entry, there's basically no way around it.

I like both.
Especially when they're successful, of course.

With a difficult entry, even if the jump itself is not successful, the preceding choreography is still more interesting and valuable than a telegraphed entry would be.

With a difficult exit, yes, often the skater has to leave it out if the jump wasn't landed successfully.

So in that sense, relying on difficult exits to increase the Transitions component and the complexity of the choreography in general is riskier, because it's more of a gamble whether the skater will be able to execute the choreography as planned at all.

...--and Jeremy Abbott's exit out of his triple axel (i think it was in the 09-10 program) .

This one? I included the approach as well as the exit because both impressed me. He has also used that approach in other programs. But when the axel wasn't successful, the connection between the jump and the subsequent spin lost its intricacy.
 

jaylee

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Jeremy Abbott:
2008 GPF FS - interesting exit from 3S. I'm not sure why this catches my attention, maybe because skaters rarely do much with their arms when landing a jump, and Jeremy has two quick arm movements which add a nice flourish, gazes directly at the audience, and then crooks his leg. And then goes directly into a spin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ft0kyWtYmkg#t=112s

Yu-Na Kim
2011 Worlds FS: I love, love, love this entrance to the 3S/2T, sadly, Yu-Na wasn't able to do the 3S/2T in competition. Such a beautiful and difficult entrance though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bHqwxLU4mIc#t=41s

Yu-Na Kim
2010 Olympics FS: exit from the lutz - just glorious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6uLhN1jH6uo#t=219s

Nathan Chen
2010 Broadmoore Open FS - amazing steps into his 2A, high kick afterwards, and his arms folded throughout!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gCUUdfT_CY0#t=43s
 

silverlake22

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I like how Josh Farris had a lunge entrance and extended back spiral exit to his 3f in the SP this season, when he hit that jump well, it was a really stunning element, especially the exit which showed off his flexibility and edge control.
 

CanadianSkaterGuy

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aftertherain

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Bartek

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Jeremy Abbott:
2008 GPF FS - interesting exit from 3S. I'm not sure why this catches my attention, maybe because skaters rarely do much with their arms when landing a jump, and Jeremy has two quick arm movements which add a nice flourish, gazes directly at the audience, and then crooks his leg. And then goes directly into a spin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ft0kyWtYmkg#t=112s

Yu-Na Kim
2011 Worlds FS: I love, love, love this entrance to the 3S/2T, sadly, Yu-Na wasn't able to do the 3S/2T in competition. Such a beautiful and difficult entrance though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bHqwxLU4mIc#t=41s

Yu-Na Kim
2010 Olympics FS: exit from the lutz - just glorious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6uLhN1jH6uo#t=219s

Nathan Chen
2010 Broadmoore Open FS - amazing steps into his 2A, high kick afterwards, and his arms folded throughout!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gCUUdfT_CY0#t=43s

I love such a way of executing creative/difficult exit. She lands this splendind lutz, holds the edge and then performs the turn. It allows us to appreciate the beauty of her flowing edge and includes the addictional difficulty of the turn on the exit too for higher GOE.
 

CanadianSkaterGuy

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LOL. That isn't even a valid transition, right? :laugh:

Hah, in my books it is! Even if it's an illegal move, it's still an entrance going directly into the 3S.

Yeah yeah, you have your spread eagles, and your counters/choctaws/etc., and spiral entires.... but there will never be a skater in history that will be able to execute that. :bow:

Even a regular backflip with few turns after into a 3S would be crazy... but a backflip with a one-foot landing, and without hesitation she goes off that same foot straight up into a 3S... that's absolutely INSANE.
 

TontoK

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^^^

I have to agree with you on this one. I was never a fan of Surya. In fact, I was the anti-fan.

But credit where due; that was jaw-dropping.

I also remember a double axel from a dead stop in one of her programs. Of course, there was no flow out of it, but it was still impressive that she was that strong.
 

gmyers

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Hah, in my books it is! Even if it's an illegal move, it's still an entrance going directly into the 3S.

Yeah yeah, you have your spread eagles, and your counters/choctaws/etc., and spiral entires.... but there will never be a skater in history that will be able to execute that. :bow:

Even a regular backflip with few turns after into a 3S would be crazy... but a backflip with a one-foot landing, and without hesitation she goes off that same foot straight up into a 3S... that's absolutely INSANE.

No doubt about it backflip into triple salchow would be both extremely creative and not only uncommon but confined to one skater ever!!
 

dorispulaski

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Peggy Fleming used to do a 1 and 1/2 flip directly into an axel in her Pachelbel's Canon pro routine. Loved that! :love:
 

aftertherain

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uncchristine99

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Mao Asada 2008 - Combo Spin/2A/End: I absolutely loved this! I didn't see her miss this 2A in the entire season of this program. I always found it beautiful and breathtaking because once I knew the choreo, I was so excited to see her to nail it every time.

Brian Boitano 1995 - Spread Eagle/3Lutz: Besides my personal favorite spread eagle even to this day, he also wowed you with his 'tano lutz! What flourish with the arms! I've seen Mao Asada and Irina Slutskaya do 2axels with one hand over their head like this and I always thought it was gorgeous. I don't remember what programs but if anyone does, please post! I'd love to see them again!

I remember Peggy Fleming saying that it was super hard to do that with your arm because it changes your balance and air position so much. Touche!
 
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