Joesitz said:There are four big contenders for gold in Moscow. Unfortunately, one of them will not make the podium. Maybe we should stop worrying about the forKwans and the nonKwans and let's see how she's doing at Nationals.
Joe
Maybe we should stop worrying about the forKwans and the nonKwans and let's see how she's doing at Nationals.
I dont believe for a moment the judging will be any different then in the past as noticed in marks being given at recent comps. When a skater can fall 3 times and get the marks Sasha got we have a problem. Im not blaming Sasha its not her fault but her marks and points have been inflated many times and that takes away from the integrity of the sport
Red Dog said:Back on topic...MK may have improved on little things here and there, but IMO overall she really isn't any better than she was when I first saw her (or I don't notice a substantial difference). It'll be interesting to see her at Nationals and Worlds and see what the Bolero program has become.
Joesitz said:There are four big contenders for gold in Moscow. Unfortunately, one of them will not make the podium. Maybe we should stop worrying about the forKwans and the nonKwans and let's see how she's doing at Nationals.
Joe
Does Michelle or any skater, for that matter, actually do the choreography. I know they contribute to it but I think in the last analysis, it is the choreographer who lays out the program, takes the skater's input and then the choreographer will complete the routine. That sounds like I am making easy of this but it does take a lot of work. My point on the choreography is the choreographer and not the skater. George Ballanchine often said that the dancers give me the way to the ballet. Morozov did MK's DC Worlds win. Should we not give him credit?gracefulswan said:i think she hasn't improved in the choreography, artistic aspect... and find her a bit less interesting then a few years ago.. although i wouldn't count her out just yet.
ITA. Pre the split from Lori Nichol, Lori's choices of music, in general, I felt both pushed Michelle to work beyond her natural comfort zone and also skate some truly remarkable choreography to some truly amazing music. Even though I didn't feel Michelle's artistry and technique, aside from great jump consistency, was up to most of Lori's programs -- I loved Michelle's skating in "Rush," but that was done by Chris Dean -- I felt Michelle's artistry and technique would the level Lori had set for her.ritymeez said:.....Anyway, I think she is progressing athletically but regressing somewhat artistically these last few years, though I still like her skating and spunk.
Joesitz said:Does Michelle or any skater, for that matter, actually do the choreography. I know they contribute to it but I think in the last analysis, it is the choreographer who lays out the program, takes the skater's input and then the choreographer will complete the routine. That sounds like I am making easy of this but it does take a lot of work. My point on the choreography is the choreographer and not the skater. George Ballanchine often said that the dancers give me the way to the ballet. Morozov did MK's DC Worlds win. Should we not give him credit?
After 6 Worlds win what should the improvement have been? How has any skater improved in presentation except for Ando and Goebel? I contend that skaters have not improved in presentation since they made themselve known. Their style has been set in stone. Like it or not.
Joe