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Alba said:
If everything works well I will record it for sure. It will be Eurosport Ita though, because I'm sure others will record British Eurosport and plus, Eurosport Ita commentators are great. ;)
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I've never seen EUR Ita coverage of Yulia's skating... Looking forward to it! :agree:
 
Okay, I admit I am in such a bad mental state that I need to read everything I can find on the internet to kill my anxiety before CoC.
There is zero news of Yulia and no video for Adelina's performance of yesterday. :scowl:

Does anyone care to translate this post by the Ice Doctor? http://vk.com/palata6_fk?w=wall-70359150_1457
Google translate puts out mostly gibberish.
 
Yamita said:
Okay, I admit I am in such a bad mental state that I need to read everything I can find on the internet to kill my anxiety before CoC.
There is zero news of Yulia and no video for Adelina's performance of yesterday. :scowl:

Does anyone care to translate this post by the Ice Doctor? http://vk.com/palata6_fk?w=wall-70359150_1457
Google translate puts out mostly gibberish.
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The text is sort of awkward Russian. The gist is the address to the fans to lower their expectations from Yulia and Adelina because they have to start the new quad from scratch.
 
[email protected] said:
The text is sort of awkward Russian. The gist is the address to the fans to lower their expectations from Yulia and Adelina because they have to start the new quad from scratch.
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Thank you samkrut. :) I was confused when seeing some swearing words from google translator ... :slink:
So it looks like the anxiety runs really high among all Lypnyata. I hope Yulia is strong enough to bear the pressure. Same for Adelina.
 
Yamita said:
Okay, I admit I am in such a bad mental state that I need to read everything I can find on the internet to kill my anxiety before CoC.
There is zero news of Yulia and no video for Adelina's performance of yesterday. :scowl:
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There are some videos of Adelina's SP and LP in her topic.


@All: There is also I&Z in CoC right? I think I'm going to feel sick.
I can't handle, Yulia, Hanyu and I&Z, all at the same time. :slink:
 
Alba said:
There are some videos of Adelina's SP and LP in her topic.


@All: There is also I&Z in CoC right? I think I'm going to feel sick.
I can't handle, Yulia, Hanyu and I&Z, all at the same time. :slink:
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Me neither. I love Yulia's skating obviously, but this year I can root for Yuzuru without any guilty feelings. I really do like Patrick's skating and last year I really wanted him to win Gold for himself. Also I'm Canadian so I really wanted that historic Men's Gold for Canada. And I just discovered Elena Ilynikh and her former partner at Worlds last year. Since they split up and I like her more I'm rooting for her and Ruslan.

I really won't be able to handle it, either. :slink: At least there are no pairs I know enough to root for.
 
Meoima said:
Even though I like Nam (cause he looks like my friend's child) but in no way I would say Nam is more artistic than Yulia. :laugh: musicality is very subjective in this sport because these skaters don't play music, they are not musicians we can't tell for sure who feel music better. Poor Yulia for all the negative comments about her musicality. FS is not about musicality, it's more about hitting the jumps at the right beat and notes.
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Oh, I didn't mean to give the wrong impression. In the thread on the main page (the Edge) talking about Nam, people were being dismissive again just because he's young: the usual stuff, despite the fact that they gave phenomenal performances that with any other skater (especially from someone they like) they would have been very complimentary, since it came form a young phenom that somehow invalidates everything they did perfectly. The poster who I paraphrased was not the first to bring Yulia into the conversation about Nam, and did not compare them to each other, instead he was just critical of them both but the comment about Yulia really enraged me. (Mechanical, learns choreography by rote, etc.)

How do people become so stupid? If I don't have anything good to say, or I just can't appreciate the skater at all I generally don't say anything. Usually I only comment on the programs that I enjoyed something about. If you don't like it at all, or have some incomprehensible bias against the skater, don't bother saying anything at all. It just makes them sound jealous, no I mean envious. Jealousy literally means feeling that way about someone you have a right to belong with or something you could do, while envy means you don't have any right to be involved with someone or something you could not in a hundred years achieve.
 
Isabel_O'Reilly said:
Oh, I didn't mean to give the wrong impression. In the thread on the main page (the Edge) talking about Nam, people were being dismissive again just because he's young: the usual stuff, despite the fact that they gave phenomenal performances that with any other skater (especially from someone they like) they would have been very complimentary, since it came form a young phenom that somehow invalidates everything they did perfectly. The poster who I paraphrased was not the first to bring Yulia into the conversation about Nam, and did not compare them to each other, instead he was just critical of them both but the comment about Yulia really enraged me. (Mechanical, learns choreography by rote, etc.)
How do people become so stupid? If I don't have anything good to say, or I just can't appreciate the skater at all I generally don't say anything. Usually I only comment on the programs that I enjoyed something about. If you don't like it at all, or have some incomprehensible bias against the skater, don't bother saying anything at all. It just makes them sound jealous, no I mean envious. Jealousy literally means feeling that way about someone you have a right to belong with or something you could do, while envy means you don't have any right to be involved with someone or something you could not in a hundred years achieve.
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ITA. I don't like the way some people dismiss young skaters' efforts just because they are young or "not musical" according to their sense. Critizing some program is okay but only when it's fair. Like why you don't like this program because it makes you think the elements are rush, bad posture... But giving the credit to where the credit is due is a must.

And musicality is very overrated and misued IMO. These skaters are young people, most are younger than many posters here, they are not even musicians, so what's the point of marking their musicality which has always been very subjective? As long as they jump at the right moment and deliver the choreography, it's more than enough.
 
papa said:
I especially love this sequence: elegant, delicate and perfectly synchronized with music. That last hand gesture just melts me! :love:
https://8chan.co/yulia/src/1414689311052-0.webm
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papa, I think a lot of us would agree with you about the melting, including Yulia. The timings below refer to this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YaVfbMwtO0

Begin at 2:31. You hear a gorgeous melody in the high notes that lasts about 14 seconds. It is in two parts, the original and its repeat. It repeats itself beginning at 2:39. The repeat is identical to the original with one important difference. The last two notes of the original are missing. Listen carefully till you hear this difference. Now listen to the original and focus on how those two notes (2:36-2:38) complete the melody with a feeling of warmth, of soothing. They tell us that she can now rest, that she has found peace. Without those two notes the melody is incomplete, it just hangs there unfinished, which is what happens in the repeat. Also, there is a gap at the end of the repeat where those two notes should have been. This gap emphasizes they (peace) are gone and creates a dangerous void. She has been robbed of peace, she is about to fall into the void. Then from 2:46 to 2:48 comes that crashing scale where she is being sucked back down into chaos. Notice at 2:48 her hand goes up not for the kite, but like a drowning swimmer.

So the musical drama from 2:31 to 2:45 centers on two things: (1) the warm and fuzzy feeling of the two notes that resolve the melody, signifying peace; and (2) those two notes are missing from the repeated melody, signifying paradise lost. The drama: she finds peace and then it disappears. Now, watch her during those two notes-of-peace from 2:36 to 2:38. That is where you see the hand gesture that melts you, which is exactly what the music conveys and what she wants you to feel. She is great. There is no one even remotely like her. It's wonderful that you could properly reward her efforts.
 
Meoima said:
ITA. I don't like the way some people dismiss young skaters' efforts just because they are young or "not musical" according to their sense. Critizing some program is okay but only when it's fair. Like why you don't like this program because it makes you think the elements are rush, bad posture... But giving the credit to where the credit is due is a must.
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Agreed!
I think the reason why these people think like that is either

- they are kinda agry about the fact that a 15(now 16) year old somehow places higher than 'more polished' skaters or their favorites. And because she is such a good skater and it's hard to find a really big weakness to push her down, they turn to the
"She is an immature child/she doesn't understand the music/ only does what she is told to/this is just a marketing thing to give her SL/she has no musicality....etc" ....notice sth? These are all things that cannot be proven or proven wrong by pointing at them. You can't see them, so they just state that it's like that and from then on it is a fact. ..

- or she just isn't the type of skater they like! Some people want to watch Carolinas (and I love Caro as well), skaters who obviously deliver a show together with their skate, who are "artistic and connect to the audience" in an obvious way. And they ONLY want to see that. They close themselves off for anything different. So when Yulia comes along and connects with the music and the audience in a different way, a deeper one and is successful despite the fact that she doesn't fit their image of "great skater", it messes up their system and ego. .... so Yulia becomes the enemy

- and for some reason many people have the image in their minds that a skater needs to "earn" the right to medal or to be praised- but not by skating amazingly but by being around for a long time, by being a grown woman :scratch:
And it messes with their heads that a 'little girl' just pops up and comes out on top at such an early stage in her career, because normally skaters need several years to be as successful and especially to draw as much awe as Yulia does.
So there's sth new, a change in the scenery, sth they don't understand? Needs to be trashed.

I feel sorry for these people. They simply miss out on this amazing skating and feeling Yulia has to offer.
 
Whenever I watch the latest skates by no matter who, I end up watching Yulia's Schindler's List - either Scate Canada or European Championship. Am I mad or what? :)
 
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