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Yulia Lipnitskaya

golden411 said:
Just want to make sure all are aware of the following:

(1) Interview with Lipnitskaya -- incl. quotes from her re the medal ceremony. It was conducted by Flade, and the text is on the Russian fed's website.

YL explains at great length what happened re the medal ceremony.

Also answers questions on topics completely unrelated to the medal ceremony.​

ETA, samkrut :bow: posted a partial translation in the Cup of China Ladies FS thread:

(2) An article in English from TASS about the ISU fine. Includes quotes from David Dore.



Your support does count for something, Alba. It speaks very well for YL that you are with her 100%. :)
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What a sensitive, professional staff. First they hang up on her, then they threaten her, then "they" decide why, etc. Not once do they pay attention to her, her feelings, what she needs. If I hadn't turned off my phone before, I certainly would after all this. Out of anger and fear. And how about this one: "Are you a representative of Russia who placed second?" This is actually perverse, even creepy. Are these employees screened? You have adolescents (not children--very big difference) dedicating their lives to their most demanding sport and skating their hearts out. It's as if administrators and some of the public intentionally want to inflict a serious case of PTSD. I really really don't get it. They are the ones who should be fined, and also fired. Can we stop discussing her motivations, decisions and ramifications? That's the very least we should do.
 
sjid said:
Can we stop discussing her motivations, decisions and ramifications? That's the very least we should do.
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Read Yulia's interview with Tatiana Flade. It's very good. :yes:



From Liza's interview:
EV: In one of the interviews you mentioned you have no friends on the ice.
ET: Actually I never said that and it was made a title. I was very upset. Thought it made me sound quite evil.

EV: But it's ok not having friends among your rivals. The reason I asked is because a year before the Olympics Yulia Lipnitskaya told me she was friends with you and admitted she wanted to make it to the team with you.
ET: It's so nice to hear! Indeed Yulia and I are in good terms.
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How can we leave with the knowledge that Yulia and her are not mortal enemies as some would like to pass all this?! :sarcasm::rolleye:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtoKHuB_Tk

I like watching her gala on Eurosport. I've noticed that 95% of the time their commentary is good and they don't bash a skater. They seem respectful while acknowledging that though the SP was good the LP was for her a disaster. Also they do say how Polina and Kanako placed in FP but how Yulia could have hung on to 2nd overall.

I'm now going to erase this event from my mind, except for when I watch her SP and Gala on my computer.
 
Alba said:
Read Yulia's interview with Tatiana Flade. It's very good. :yes:

Alba, I am not referring to the interviewer or the quality of the interview which is where I got my information. Yulia wouldn't have agreed to be interviewed had she not wanted to set the record straight. I am shocked by her account of the way she was treated. Can they be more callous than by asking Are you a representative of Russia who placed second? instead of using her name. The rest of the conversation isn't much better: I said yes. They said: «The medals ceremony takes place now. Where are you?» I say: «At the hotel». Silence, then beeping. Consider "representative of Russia" and "placed second." What a choice of words. Anyoone with eyes knew she was devastated.
Can't they ask instead "May I speak to Yulia?" And then say something like (since they know full well she isn't at the ceremony) "We're sorry you had a rough skate, quite unlike you. I am sorry but these things happen to the best of us. Anyone would be really upset, how are you doing?" Etc., gradually easing into the medals ceremony. Avoiding her name can't be to protect her, since there is only one 2d place Russian and many Yulias. For this and many other reasons this conversation strikes me as destructive, even sadistic. This is the wrong way to treat anyone, and especially one of Yulia's stature. I hope parents of aspiring skaters are following this story.
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sjid :laugh: I agree with you. Although who knows who called and the language barrier.

Anyway, I meant read the interview because it might make us feel a little bit better. It worked for me at least. :)
I understood more things about the problems with her skating at the moment.
As I thought, and said this on GP thread, she needs time to adjust with those boots. That's why she took off her Lutz combo for the moment.

p.s. Eurosport Ita were great too.
 
I found it interesting that she has been attempting 3f-3t. Have we seen her do this in combo before and if so...is there video. FWIW....she has a great 3f and her second jump in any combo is almost always higher than anyone else's. Her 2a-3t-2t is pretty neat :biggrin:
 
Alba said:
sjid :laugh: I agree with you. Although who knows who called and the language barrier.

Anyway, I meant read the interview because it might let us all feel better.
I was personally, and I understood more things about the problems with her skating at the moment.
As I thought, and said this on GP thread, she needs time to adjust with those boots. That's why she took off her Lutz combo for the moment.

p.s. Eurosport Ita were great too.
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I, too, much appreciated hearing Yulia tell her story.
 
I'm happy to know that the Medal Ceremony problem was only a misunderstanding. The fine is a rule, so no question about it, it'll be useful for her staff to take care next time. But Yulia was rightly exhausted and a good sleep is always the best medicine :)

Having said that, I'm so angry with the tone used in this article http://www.artonice.it/?q=it/node/16241, especially with the bold part

ha deciso di non presentarsi alla cerimonia di premiazione
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(she decided to not attend the ceremony)

They did an update with Yulia's excuses but they were the first to be sorry too, they wrote a lie, and they didn't. Sorry for my rancour but I'm fed up with this mania (often in Italy) of portraying Yulia as an arrogant :frown:
(and obviously it instigated a flood of "compliments" in another forum where people only read this article and ignored the article which describes what happened for real... :scowl: )
 
alebi said:
I'm happy to know that the Medal Ceremony problem was only a misunderstanding. The fine is a rule, so no question about it, it'll be useful for her staff to take care next time. But Yulia was rightly exhausted and a good sleep is always the best medicine :)

Having said that, I'm so angry with the tone used in this article http://www.artonice.it/?q=it/node/16241, especially with the bold part

(she decided to not attend the ceremony)

They did an update with Yulia's excuses but they were the first to be sorry too, they wrote a lie, and they didn't. Sorry for my rancour but I'm fed up with this mania (often in Italy) of portraying Yulia as an arrogant :frown:
(and obviously it instigated a flood of "compliments" in another forum where people only read this article and ignored the article which describes what happened for real... :scowl: )
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I don't get why they want to make a 16 year old girl look arrogant!! I mean, seriously, the reporter might have been at the age of her parent!
 
Meoima said:
I don't get why they want to make a 16 year old girl look arrogant!! I mean, seriously, the reporter might have been at the age of her parent!
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Becuase when this 16 year old starts winning and become strong they can't bare it.
Besides, she beat Kostner more than once and some italians can't stand that. :rolleye:
 
The TASS article linked in another thread said "she decided not to show up." To me, this made it sound as if Yulia & her coach had disregarded the competition rules/protocols on purpose. In English, "deciding" to do something means you've made a conscious choice about it, and that just wasn't true in this case.

TASS is a well-known Russian news agency so it's surprising to see them say something like this -- making a Russian skater look bad. Could there be translation issues? If not, the choice of words was absolutely awful. You might expect it from maybe an anti-Yulia blogger but not from a presumably reputable outlet like TASS. :disapp: I'm not a huge Yulia fan but these guys should have known better.
 
skatedreamer said:
The TASS article linked in another thread said "she decided not to show up." To me, this made it sound as if Yulia & her coach had disregarded the competition rules/protocols on purpose. In English, "deciding" to do something means you've made a conscious choice about it, and that just wasn't true in this case.

TASS is a well-known Russian news agency so it's surprising to see them say something like this -- making a Russian skater look bad. Could there be translation issues? If not, the choice of words was absolutely awful. You might expect it from maybe an anti-Yulia blogger but not from a presumably reputable outlet like TASS. :disapp: I'm not a huge Yulia fan but these guys should have known better.
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I think it might be a translation issue. I don't know how they intend the choice of word "decide", but I think the meaning is completely different.
I know this because the person who translated the interview with Yulia, above, is her fan and he too translated that as "decided" but he meant "she thought".
 
skatedreamer said:
The TASS article linked in another thread said "she decided not to show up." To me, this made it sound as if Yulia & her coach had disregarded the competition rules/protocols on purpose. In English, "deciding" to do something means you've made a conscious choice about it, and that just wasn't true in this case.

TASS is a well-known Russian news agency so it's surprising to see them say something like this -- making a Russian skater look bad. Could there be translation issues? If not, the choice of words was absolutely awful. You might expect it from maybe an anti-Yulia blogger but not from a presumably reputable outlet like TASS. :disapp: I'm not a huge Yulia fan but these guys should have known better.
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I checked russian version of the article. No words like 'решила пропустить' which means 'decided to skip (or to not attend)' or ANYTHING like that in that article.
 
sajoya said:
She no longer looks like that girl in red skating to Schindler's list, she has become a lady now. In a way, it kind of makes me sad. She's growing up so fast!
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Yes she is. :yes:

I can't wait to see her grown though. But I undestand what you're saying. I felt the same about Kwan and Mao. :)
 
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