Yulia Lipnitskaya

[mat]

Part of the problem, it's Russia, media y all the competition between the girls... The next year will be Radionova, Liza, Adelina, Anna, Serafima y Evgenia and maybe more... and she trains with 2 of them and they're very very good...sometimes the tranquility of remoteness is beneficial and also her mother always goes with her. But I repeat, it's only my opinion.. she will do whatever she wants, so....

Of course, she will choose. But somebody could help her to make the right choice. But about a particular problem in Russia you said wrong. If such a competition in another country, it would be even worse. Of course, she will choose. But somebody could help her to make the right choice. But about a particular problem in Russia you said wrong. If such a competition in another country, it would be even worse. By the way, next season will be another star - Sasha Proklova. Nickname - "smile, bullet". Shiver will be all

 

[Alba]

But how will Eteri and Yulia know the new program "has no problems"? Even if it works in practice, that doesn't mean it's going to hit off in competition (See the interview with Adelina's coach I referenced before--perfect practices and kept falling apart in competition). And, even if they did know it had no problems... how will they convince the Russian Federation of that?

This isn't like either of the Kovtun situations. Anna, Adelina, and even Alena are more competitive internationally than Kovtun or Menshov were at the time. The Russian Fed has fewer choices in the men's field.

I think my english has become terribly bad, because since last night I'm trying to say another thing and apparently I'm not successful. :hopelessness:
I din't said they should change the program, so they could increase her chances to partecipate at Worlds. On the contrary. I said it was a risk, that maybe Eteri was willing to take, and that there is nothing wrong with her LP. It is beautiful, IMO.

This was all to explain why it was possible for her to go at Worlds, despite not partecipating at Nationals - because in that case she had to work on a new program - and how the whole system of Russian team works.
Meoima didn't know this, for example, and he asked last night.

Furthermore, sjid was asking how this new program was supposed to be ready in 2 weeks, for russian nationals. So, I was explaining that indeed it was not possible for Nationals, and neither Europeans, but it was possible for Worlds.

Yulia needs one good (not totally clean, but solid) skate under her belt. If not at Nationals, then at least some Senior B before Europeans. I don't see them sending her if she doesn't compete at all until Worlds.

I said the same thing, and I'm not that sure she will be sent there even if she has good Senior B competitions.

I'll certainly be patient after all she has given.

Amen to that.

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

By the way, next season will be another star - Sasha Proklova. Nickname - "smile, bullet". Shiver will be all

Sasha will remain Junior for at least one more season with Sotskova. Take that to the bank.

I'm not even sure if both Zhenia and Sima will go to seniors.

 

[mat]

... Coaches are not always the reason why a skater is not doing well.

I have this opinion about the reasons. Of course, I could be wrong. Tell me your opinion about the reasons.

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

I have this opinion about the reasons. Of course, I could be wrong. Tell me your opinion about the reasons.

Did you follow her all of last season? She was overworked. It's been going on for over 5yrs. She took a rest this offseason...a long one and fell behind on training due to the summer shows and later than normal/longer than normal break. All is not lost. Motivation will return. This is Yulia we are talking about

 

[mat]

Sasha will remain Junior for at least one more season with Sotskova. Take that to the bank.
I'm not even sure if both Zhenia and Sima will go to seniors.

Ah, what a pity (it I about Sasha). Why have you decided that Eugene and Seraphim do not go to adult competition, they looked through quite healthy ambitions?

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

Ah, what a pity (it I about Sasha). Why have you decided that Eugene and Seraphim do not go to adult competition, they looked through quite healthy ambitions?

I agree they are both good and probably both will go to seniors but there are so many talented Russian Seniors. I speculated months back at the start of JGP that whoever does not win JWC of the two(if in fact she is Russian) may stay behind to try again at a JWC. Becoming a senior at 16 with a JWC will help with world rankings and give credibility to their reputation amongst judges. The longer Russia crowds the JGP podiums the stronger Russian ladies skating becomes once they go senior.

Shame about Sasha and Masha's injury filled seasons. Next year if one of Sima and Zhenia stay back they could sweep the podium. Plus they changed the rules that you can't compete at senior GP and the JWC. Who knows...a lot of people disagree with me but not all

 

[mat]

Did you follow her all of last season? She was overworked. It's been going on for over 5yrs. She took a rest this offseason...a long one and fell behind on training due to the summer shows and later than normal/longer than normal break. All is not lost. Motivation will return. This is Yulia we are talking about

That's right - congestion. But, if it is not functionally ready (as the coach said), it may be, it was not necessary to participate in the Grand Prix?! Why this race this season, it is known that it is difficult for her?

 

[Alba]

I have this opinion about the reasons. Of course, I could be wrong. Tell me your opinion about the reasons.

So you think Eteri is the reason she is not doing well. Based on what?

 

[mat]

I agree they are both good and probably both will go to seniors but there are so many talented Russian Seniors. I speculated months back at the start of JGP that whoever does not win JWC of the two(if in fact she is Russian) may stay behind to try again at a JWC. Becoming a senior at 16 with a JWC will help with world rankings and give credibility to their reputation amongst judges. The longer Russia crowds the JGP podiums the stronger Russian ladies skating becomes once they go senior.
Shame about Sasha and Masha's injury filled seasons. Next year if one of Sima and Zhenia stay back they could sweep the podium. Plus they changed the rules that you can't compete at senior GP and the JWC. Who knows...a lot of people disagree with me but not all

It's terrible! Podium urgently needs to expand (at least for women) at least five places: palladium, platinum, gold, silver and bronze.

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

! Why this race this season, it is known that it is difficult for her?

The two silver medals she got will be valuable points in holding her World Ranking. That is why everyone pushed her to keep skating.

For reference: Mao got 6th and 8th I believe on the GP the season following an olympic silver medal in 2010. It is not uncommon to have slow season after Olympics. Although its hard on our hearts....it's not bad in comparison as Yulia said in her interview when she revealed what the Russian fed said to her. She thought they would call her Russian disgrace when in fact they said its not that bad

 

[kinoriH]

So you think Eteri is the reason she is not doing well. Based on what?

Alba, I personally think Eteri is not the reason, she is the coach, she's doing her job and doing it very well.
Despite that, i think it may benefit julia to change enviromet, but not leave her coach completely.
julia is a teenager now and she's going through some hard times which might become a burden for her team that obviously have other skaters to take care of.

That is actually not a really bad idea. for now, at least.

 

[mat]

So you think Eteri is the reason she is not doing well. Based on what?

Results! Breakdowns are starting in February. Nearly a year has passed. Participation in the Grand Prix, to which she was not prepared that was known in advance. You can remember more. old problems

 

[Yamita]

The two silver medals she got will be valuable points in holding her World Ranking. That is why everyone pushed her to keep skating.

And I think that Yulia wanted to compete as well. She is a very stubborn girl. She owns decisions for herself.

 

[Yamita]

Results! Breakdowns are starting in February. Nearly a year has passed. Participation in the Grand Prix, to which she was not prepared that was known in advance. You can remember more. old problems

mat, I would not call Yulia's situation a breakdown. She reached the top of the skating world at a young age of 15. It is difficult to move higher or even stay at the same level. All skaters have some ups and downs. Mao did. Lisa did. It is normal.

I believe we all want the best for Yulia. We just see things differently. That's why we discuss. That's why we try to understand each other's point.

Sam said we are over-thinking. I agree. But it is what fans do.

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

Quote from Yulia...well..paraphrase actually "I can not jump over my head every time"

Her goal is stated as being 2018 Olympics. I think she can do anything she wants.

 

[Alba]

Results! Breakdowns are starting in February. Nearly a year has passed. Participation in the Grand Prix, to which she was not prepared that was known in advance. You can remember more. old problems

So her great performance in Team Event, and silver at worlds were Eteri's faults as well, I suppose?

Yulia took some long vacations, well deserved I think. She did shows. She had to change boots. She was sick also. She changed the program 3 times. The first one she didn't like it, so it was her decision. The second it was the FED who said she should change, still she ends up with two beautiful programs.

All Eteri did is stay with Yulia all the time, trying to catch up the time lost for the above reasons. She didn't accompany any of her junior girls at their JGP competitions, but it's still her fault.
Yeah, kind of sums things up.

Despite that, i think it may benefit julia to change enviromet, but not leave her coach completely. julia is a teenager now and she's going through some hard times which might become a burden for her team that obviously have other skaters to take care of.

That is actually not a really bad idea. for now, at least.

But how would that work? Half measures IMO are bad. Either you make a real change or you don't. Furthermore, I see nothing with the environment. Having good skaters training with you only help. Unless you want to have a good coach all for yourself. Good luck with that.

 

[Meoima]

The two silver medals she got will be valuable points in holding her World Ranking. That is why everyone pushed her to keep skating.
For reference: Mao got 6th and 8th I believe on the GP the season following an olympic silver medal in 2010. It is not uncommon to have slow season after Olympics. Although its hard on our hearts....it's not bad in comparison as Yulia said in her interview when she revealed what the Russian fed said to her. She thought they would call her Russian disgrace when in fact they said its not that bad

It's true that many skaters have had rough time in the season after Olympic. They have invested too much for the Olympic season. By the time the new quad starts, they find themselves drained. V/T and Adelina are also the same. If anything I think it's very brave for Yulia to go this far. At least she's in the GPF. I think Russian fed understand that very well.

 

[Sandpiper]

I think my english has become terribly bad, because since last night I'm trying to say another thing and apparently I'm not successful. :hopelessness:
I din't said they should change the program, so they could increase her chances to partecipate at Worlds. On the contrary. I said it was a risk, that maybe Eteri was willing to take, and that there is nothing wrong with her LP. It is beautiful, IMO...

Your English isn't bad. I guess we were both trying to be informative in different ways. You spoke about the rules/theory (how it is 'possible' for her to be selected for Worlds), while I spoke about how it'll likely play out in a practical way (it is 'unlikely' she'd be selected for Worlds if she doesn't go to Nationals). And of course we're both going off huge conjecture from one (translated) interview. Let's just hope Yulia has a good performance at Nationals.

 

[Alba]

Your English isn't bad. I guess we were both trying to be informative in different ways. You spoke about the rules/theory (how it is 'possible' for her to be selected for Worlds), while I spoke about how it'll likely play out in a practical way (it is 'unlikely' she'd be selected for Worlds if she doesn't go to Nationals). And of course we're both going off huge conjecture from one (translated) interview. Let's just hope Yulia has a good performance at Nationals.

Yes. :yes:

Although my question still remain: Why would Eteri wanted to change the free, since we know very well it could not have been ready for the nationals?