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Yulia Lipnitskaya

Well, as sjid brought up, the program shouldn't have been titled R&J if all thoughts of death were to be avoided -- just causes a lot of confusion for everybody...
 
That would be an oddly phrased way to explain a death, but yes, a tragedy could end with death. That's a pretty safe statement to make considering everything ends in death.

"Brought to ruin OR suffers extreme sorrow": evidently, just feeling really terrible is a tragedy in itself? But that ties back into the sorrow, the melancholy. Obviously, there is a whole story contained within R&J, I am not sure why we keep discussing the 'death' part of it, as I never stated or implied that Julia's performance contained some kind of death... just that it was tragic.
What I mean is, "brought to ruin"--in the context of tragedy, the fiction genre--usually means death from a practical standpoint. Most great tragedies end with the hero's death.

No, I didn't mean you said her LP contained death. I just gave that as an example why her LP is a particular kind of "sad." I think it's significant that she doesn't portray death, despite the original story being famous for it. This is where I, personally, see Eteri/Yulia's vision of not really portraying R&J/not focusing solely on tragedy/however we sum it up.
 
Well, as sjid brought up, the program shouldn't have been titled R&J if all thoughts of death were to be avoided -- just causes a lot of confusion for everybody...

Here is what Yulia intended, in her own words:

Q: A question about the free program: why «Romeo and Juliet»?

A: Because the name and age are right. I am a little older than Juliet now, but not too much, and I can yet portray this girl.

Last time I did «Romeo and Juliet», there wasn't a subject, only music and my skating. Now the image is more gentle, more mature. But, of course, I haven't shown it properly in China. I haven't done anyting in the free. Because of failed jumps, all the steps were off. And the image didn't work. But, at least, whatever the next performance is, it will be better than in China.


She says she is portraying the girl without mentioning anything else. She always is expressing her feelings, and always through the music (the music is never background). Expressing personal feeling together with music is how she connects with so many people, including those of us who don't understand all the fuss over edges. Her heart speaks directly to our hearts without the encumbrances of words.
 
I'm not sure if her R&J program is the problem as the layout. There's too much time between Julia's first 2 jumping passes (which she almost always nails) until the next ones and for some reason she loses her concentration or makes a mistake and just unravels.

I hope she sees a good sports psychologist who can help her through her issues and she can comeback strong next year. She has to realize when she makes a mistake, she can fight back and not let it ruin her program.
 
Like most persons on this forum, I am a JL fan, and whilst disappointed with the final result of the Russian championships, this is not the time to be overly worried. My own daughter is the same age and height/build as Julia, and is a very good athlete. However she is also going through the growth spurt and changing from a teenager to a young woman. To say how it has affected her athletic ability as well as her confidence, would be an understatement. As a parent, I am waiting to see the light at the end of the tunnel, (I can see a chink of light) when all the bodily changes have finally taken place. The time to worry is not now, but when Julia is 17/18 years of age. If then she cannot complete the various requirements of ice skating, as well as being seen to have improved not only in her skating skills but artistically as well, then that is the time to really start asking questions about her career and the Olympics 2018. Mother nature in all shapes and sizes, and by many means is a force to be reckoned with, and nobody has yet found a true answer to deal with it. Nor will they ever find an answer. Julia needs to take a break, finish her studies (which must be playing on her mind), sort her boot problem out, have the next piece of music firmly in her head, and let her body continue to change and develop as it is going to, and then come back to show them it was just one season of change that caused the problems. Even Illa Overbuch has made reference to this on Russian TV today. I simply don't believe you can go from being Olympic medal holder, European Champion, and second in the World Championships at ones chosen sport, then become a novice in a matter of months, which is the impression that the haters are gaining at the moment.
 
I'm not sure if her R&J program is the problem as the layout. There's too much time between Julia's first 2 jumping passes (which she almost always nails) until the next ones and for some reason she loses her concentration or makes a mistake and just unravels.

I hope she sees a good sports psychologist who can help her through her issues and she can comeback strong next year. She has to realize when she makes a mistake, she can fight back and not let it ruin her program.

It's the same layout as Schindler's List, even down to some of the specific sequences.

As for the psychologist, I reached a similar conclusion when trying to think of something practical that would address her issues. More time on the ice will not be nearly enough, and it is foolish to equate winning with happiness. I wrote about my conclusions on pages 241 and 242. The gist is the training of skaters is foolishly narrow. The training structure should include the nurturing development of an uncle or grandma figure who performs essential psychological functions. Clearly this is as important as a sports coach. These kids start at 6 even before, they are isolated from normal experience. Many would benefit immensely from this outlet. It strikes me as harsh and primitive that broader considerations are not addressed as part of their training. I am certain that serious situations could be avoided with a nurturing long-term relationship. Perhaps crisis intervention by a psychologist is all we can provide within the current system, but it is time that system be expanded to include more than the physical qualities of a winning athlete. They are among the finest of our species and they are treated like race horses.
 
I just wanna say that I love JL so much and wishing her all the best to prepare for the next season. Seeing how Tuktamysheva dealt with the growth changes and nerves, I'm sure Julia will find a way to do that.
 
http://instagram.com/p/xIEkE2kLae/
(She also changed her profile pic)

I wonder if that Rabbit with the stripes was thrown by Rhodium and his girlfriend. He used to post he a lot after Sochi and they threw her a rabbit with a red coat just like the one from SL last summer at one of her shows. Yulia posted it on her VK page. She has really amassed some nice fans along the way :)
 
Like most persons on this forum, I am a JL fan, and whilst disappointed with the final result of the Russian championships, this is not the time to be overly worried. My own daughter is the same age and height/build as Julia, and is a very good athlete. However she is also going through the growth spurt and changing from a teenager to a young woman. To say how it has affected her athletic ability as well as her confidence, would be an understatement. As a parent, I am waiting to see the light at the end of the tunnel, (I can see a chink of light) when all the bodily changes have finally taken place. The time to worry is not now, but when Julia is 17/18 years of age. If then she cannot complete the various requirements of ice skating, as well as being seen to have improved not only in her skating skills but artistically as well, then that is the time to really start asking questions about her career and the Olympics 2018. Mother nature in all shapes and sizes, and by many means is a force to be reckoned with, and nobody has yet found a true answer to deal with it. Nor will they ever find an answer. Julia needs to take a break, finish her studies (which must be playing on her mind), sort her boot problem out, have the next piece of music firmly in her head, and let her body continue to change and develop as it is going to, and then come back to show them it was just one season of change that caused the problems. Even Illa Overbuch has made reference to this on Russian TV today. I simply don't believe you can go from being Olympic medal holder, European Champion, and second in the World Championships at ones chosen sport, then become a novice in a matter of months, which is the impression that the haters are gaining at the moment.

This is a thoughtful perspective on the complexity of her situation. Too bad I can't postpone the worry. the following is how Yulia herself described her experience after Sochi. More than merely vacationing, she was trying to recuperate.

I had three weeks rest, but I managed only to back down from the top shape and let go the muscles, we did massage, different spa procedures. You see, I was constantly under pressure, and I needed to let it go completely. As a result, I relaxed physically, but but not psychologically. I got even more tired. On the one hand, the season is over. On the other, I have to start from scratch. And not only from scratch, I have to get to the same level and go up, because everyone expects me to become better. These thoughts were very taxing. I was ready to start again, but the problems with boots, the injuries wore me out, and I got even more tired.
 
I'm not sure if her R&J program is the problem as the layout. There's too much time between Julia's first 2 jumping passes (which she almost always nails) until the next ones and for some reason she loses her concentration or makes a mistake and just unravels.

Actually she has changed the layout 3 times, and never worked.

I wonder if that Rabbit with the stripes was thrown by Rhodium and his girlfriend. He used to post he a lot after Sochi and they threw her a rabbit with a red coat just like the one from SL last summer at one of her shows. Yulia posted it on her VK page. She has really amassed some nice fans along the way :)

Where is Rhodium by the way?
 
Don't know if this was posted or not.

"The mood was excellent, but only lasted for the first half. Why, I do not know how to explain. Hard. A tough season, but I'll try to come back", - said Yulia Lipnitskaya.
 
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Elena Ilinykh posted this on her instragram: http://instagram.com/p/xIQGhkqBp7/?modal=true
She wrote in russian: То чувство, когда у тебя в номере лежит олимпийская чемпионка
with google translation it seems like: That feeling when you have in the room the Olympic champion

....something like that. :)
 
Don't know if this was posted or not.

"The mood was excellent, but only lasted for the first half. Why, I do not know how to explain. Hard. A tough season, but I'll try to come back", - said Yulia Lipnitskaya.

This one is baffling. In her step sequence, that graceful floating motion you admire was done to perfection for a few phrases. In this section there are very slow semi-circular full-body rotations that support the quicker movement, like an undercurrent. Suddenly, as if a switch is thrown, the rotation base disappears, and the movements are jagged and linear. And then out of nowhere comes a stiff-legged jump seen here for the first time. I would have expected her problems to occur after this relatively safe section.

Did she make any other comments in this report?

Edit: I found it, Volk did post it earlier. that's all they told us.
 
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Don't know if this was posted or not.
"The mood was excellent, but only lasted for the first half. Why, I do not know how to explain. Hard. A tough season, but I'll try to come back", - said Yulia Lipnitskaya.
I hope Liza's come back will help Yulia feel strong. Liza also dropped to 10th place last season. And now she is back again. Yulia certainly doesn't loose hope. Liza can do it, Yulia can do it too. At least now that she has more time for herself. I wish her all the best. Stay strong baby!
 
I saw a post asking about the income of Yulia's family? I remember I saw a video and Eteri said that Yulia's mother is helping do things in the team and that's why she went to the competition with Yulia and Eteri. Eteri said that so she could focus more on training instead of on those trivial things.
And I really wanna thank Eteri. In this season she went to every competition with Yulia (not every one with her other students). And this morning she was there with Yulia at K&C while Medvedeva was the next to skate.
 
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