State of Russian Ladies in skating: 2014-15 Season

[shiroKJ]

That's depressing.....lol to have your entire career be determined at the age of 15-18. Someone should have told Kostner and Suzuki that 10 years ago

 

[Scott512]

Scott512, Liza won the GPF title, runner-up of Russian Nationals and overall 7 titles of 9 competitions this season, so there is no way to exclude her from the World team.

Then I guess Adelina will get the third spot at worlds. Unless Pogo wins euro's. Then it's really a mess. Ade should go to worlds if healthy. No doubt about it. But I still doubt Ade will perform in real competition this year. That said I am sure she will be ready for all the exho's coming up.

 

[stryke]

They both need to face the facts and just hang up the skates. Even Kurt Browning on CBC stated that Julia is not lasting the test of time. Think about it: she'll be turning 17 in just a matter of months! It's time to step aside and let the 15 year old's do what they do best.

Was this sarcastic? You can't honestly say someone should hang up their skates at age 16 over an unprepared season.

 

[concorde]

^^ No. But the comment "I've heard that even Julia's husband is finally switching her for someone younger" was.

 

[Scott512]

They both need to face the facts and just hang up the skates. Even Kurt Browning on CBC stated that Julia is not lasting the test of time. Think about it: she'll be turning 17 in just a matter of months! It's time to step aside and let the 15 year old's do what they do best.

Who is they both? Yulia and who? Retire? Hell no. Yulia just needs a break and come back an an underdog next season and Adelina needs to get healthy and skating again.

 

[Alba]

Who is they both? Yulia and who? Retire? Hell no. Yulia just needs a break and come back an an underdog next season and Adelina needs to get healthy and skating again.

Leonova. I don't know how Liza could live with herself the last two years. She should've stopped I guess, just to make some people happy.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

They both need to face the facts and just hang up the skates. Even Kurt Browning on CBC stated that Julia is not lasting the test of time. Think about it: she'll be turning 17 in just a matter of months! It's time to step aside and let the 15 year old's do what they do best.

Whaaa? Did Kurt say that? She's the reigning WSM, and even with poor performances she still manages silvers on the GP.

I mean, she made the GPF.

I wonder if Kurt shares the same sentiments about Osmond.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Leonova. I don't know how Liza could live with herself the last two years. She should've stopped I guess, just to make some people happy.

Leonova has shown considerable resilience this season... silver in Nebelhorn over Gracie (where she scored a personal best), silver in NHK over Miyahara/Murakami. And she's had some strong SP scores (including a PB at NHK) - and a clean SP at Russian Nats, NHK, and Nebelhorn (and clean jumping at Skate Canada).

 

[sabinfire]

Was this sarcastic? You can't honestly say someone should hang up their skates at age 16 over an unprepared season.

As I mentioned in my original post, Julia is turning 17 in a few months, before the start of the next season. How much can she possibly have left to give?

And for Leonova -- seeing a 24-year-old trying to compete in this sport is heartbreaking. Watching the extremely labored jumps, all the sweat glistening on their forehead as they struggle to make it beyond the 2-minute mark of their programs, barely being able to breath as they practically crawl off the ice at the end of their skates, and putting an inordinate amount of effort into their 'mature' PCS elements to hide their low technical scores...

Clearly this was a sport designed for kids.

 

[CutieP]

:shocked:

 

[Alba]

Leonova has shown considerable resilience this season... silver in Nebelhorn over Gracie (where she scored a personal best), silver in NHK over Miyahara/Murakami. And she's had some strong SP scores (including a PB at NHK) - and a clean SP at Russian Nats, NHK, and Nebelhorn (and clean jumping at Skate Canada).

I agree, but for some apparently she has to give up because well, she is 24.

 

[MalAssada]

They both need to face the facts and just hang up the skates. Even Kurt Browning on CBC stated that Julia is not lasting the test of time. Think about it: she'll be turning 17 in just a matter of months! It's time to step aside and let the 15 year old's do what they do best.

I find it odd coming from you, considering your avatar. Wasn't Liza at the same place Yulia is a few seasons ago? Granted, different problems, but similar results.

 

[starlight97]

And for Leonova -- seeing a 24-year-old trying to compete in this sport is heartbreaking. Watching the extremely labored jumps, all the sweat glistening on their forehead as they struggle to make it beyond the 2-minute mark of their programs, barely being able to breath as they practically crawl off the ice at the end of their skates, and putting an inordinate amount of effort into their 'mature' PCS elements to hide their low technical scores...

Clearly this was a sport designed for kids.

WHAT THE....
I really don't know how to react to this.
...?
or maybe :shocked: ?
But I think might be best.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Haha that was sarcasm at its best.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Leonova. I don't know how Liza could live with herself the last two years. She should've stopped I guess, just to make some people happy.

I know right!

She should've stopped and not stuck around to do this: http://instagram.com/p/xjFo45TQf8

 

[buch]

And for Leonova -- seeing a 24-year-old trying to compete in this sport is heartbreaking. Watching the extremely labored jumps, all the sweat glistening on their forehead as they struggle to make it beyond the 2-minute mark of their programs, barely being able to breath as they practically crawl off the ice at the end of their skates, and putting an inordinate amount of effort into their 'mature' PCS elements to hide their low technical scores...

Clearly this was a sport designed for kids.

100% agreed.
Watching Leonova long program and afterwards is very sad experience.
And if not all the age requirements and politically approved PCS robbery, I'm pretty sure Medvedeva would be Russian Champion or Vice-Champion and there would be no +18 female World Champion in years to come. Maybe one time out of ten.

 

[Scott512]

Leonova. I don't know how Liza could live with herself the last two years. She should've stopped I guess, just to make some people happy.

Liza is back and in good form. Good thing she didn't retire.

It's their lives let them retire when they want to.

 

[CutieP]

I know right!

She should've stopped and not stuck around to do this: http://instagram.com/p/xjFo45TQf8

That 3A worries me.:hopelessness: Why did she have to start doing that. She is messing up my calculations. How is Lena going to be able to keep her advantage in base value now.

I am not liking this

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

I agree, but for some apparently she has to give up because well, she is 24.

Totally. I mean it's not like we've ever had an Olympic gold medalist at 24 or an Olympic bronze medalist at 27 or a Japanese champion at 28.

As long as she can keep cranking out SP's with the consistency she has this season, she at least puts herself in the hunt. Yeah, her FS is her weakness but at least she sets herself up whereas most skaters this season have taken themselves out of the running and then have to play catch up in the FS.

Her 3-3 is very reliable this season, and she's actually trying to do 3F+3T... that to me isn't the mark of somebody who's on their way out quite yet.

 

[stryke]

As I mentioned in my original post, Julia is turning 17 in a few months, before the start of the next season. How much can she possibly have left to give?

5 Months is more than a few months. I'm guessing you were saying similar things about Liza during her hard times? I can only guess you are trolling.