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Yulia Lipnitskaya

borzaya said:
The translation of the interview is already available at FSU - http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/ind...kid-i-called-myself-yulia-olimpiiskaya.94889/
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It was a remarkable interview. Yulia at her best. Her name as a kid was Yulia Olimpinskaia. :MAO! And the story about how her kitten was a boy then realized it was a girl. ;) I found her comments about how Max could have won gold very interesting. I expect her to return next year breathing fire! I hope it all comes together for Yules. But it's a tough sport that beats the competitors up physically and mentally.
 
Scott512 said:
It was a remarkable interview. Yulia at her best. Her name as a kid was Yulia Olimpinskaia. :MAO! And the story about how her kitten was a boy then realized it was a girl. ;) I found her comments about how Max could have won gold very interesting. I expect her to return next year breathing fire! I hope it all comes together for Yules. But it's a tough sport that beats the competitors up physically and mentally.
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In the end it seems she doesn't care about who gave her the puppy lol.
 
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witcher said:
I'm pretty shocked after this interview. I knew she has had many injuries, but I could never imagine she had so many serious bone/muscle internal problems.
Obsessed fan in me thinks "cmon Julienka, you can make it, couple more years, what will I watch in fs without you?", human being inside me wonders "are those medals and glory really worth it?".:scowl:
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For sure, witcher. And it's not just Yulia. Too many female skaters are injured, it's alarming. A big part of the problem is the emphasis on physically abusive technique, especially their race toward ever-more-difficult jumps. The message is, when females push their fragile frames too far, too many ice skaters become ice martyrs. Yulia points to a way around this. Emphasize the artistic dimension, and minimize or eliminate all complex jumps (they mostly disrupt the expressive flow so nothing is lost artistically). Yulia has shown us how "less is more" when skaters are artistic. As a bonus they get to stay healthy.
 
sjid said:
For sure, witcher. And it's not just Yulia. Too many female skaters are injured, it's alarming. A big part of the problem is the emphasis on physically abusive technique, especially their race toward ever-more-difficult jumps. The message is, when females push their fragile frames too far, too many ice skaters become ice martyrs. Yulia points to a way around this. Emphasize the artistic dimension, and minimize or eliminate all complex jumps (they mostly disrupt the expressive flow so nothing is lost artistically). Yulia has shown us how "less is more" when skaters are artistic. As a bonus they get to stay healthy.
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The interview alarmed me too. I knew Yulia had many struggles the season before last, but I had no idea her injuries were that severe.

That being said... eliminate complex jumps?! Eliminate complex jumps and we should take figure skating out of competitions and solely into shows. That'll probably kill it, but what kind of sport specifically tries to move backwards? Yes, coaches should teach good technique, and we should find ways to minimize injury. But all elite sports cause injuries--not just (female) figure skaters.

Do you realize that male skaters have just as many injuries as female skaters do? I apologize if this sounds harsh... but your reasoning sounds dated.
 
Sandpiper said:
The interview alarmed me too. I knew Yulia had many struggles the season before last, but I had no idea her injuries were that severe.

That being said... eliminate complex jumps?! Eliminate complex jumps and we should take figure skating out of competitions and solely into shows. That'll probably kill it, but what kind of sport specifically tries to move backwards? Yes, coaches should teach good technique, and we should find ways to minimize injury. But all elite sports cause injuries--not just (female) figure skaters.

Do you realize that male skaters have just as many injuries as female skaters do? I apologize if this sounds harsh... but your reasoning sounds dated.
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I think you sum up the dilemma perfectly. The choices we make reflect what we value most.
 
Sandpiper said:
The interview alarmed me too. I knew Yulia had many struggles the season before last, but I had no idea her injuries were that severe.

That being said... eliminate complex jumps?! Eliminate complex jumps and we should take figure skating out of competitions and solely into shows. That'll probably kill it, but what kind of sport specifically tries to move backwards? Yes, coaches should teach good technique, and we should find ways to minimize injury. But all elite sports cause injuries--not just (female) figure skaters.

Do you realize that male skaters have just as many injuries as female skaters do? I apologize if this sounds harsh... but your reasoning sounds dated.
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Yuia may be better off in shows. When the advice to retire is made by two orthopedic surgeons, and Eteri's gentle suggestion as well, she should give it serioius consideration. And you aren't being harsh at all.

I am not in favor of male or female skaters sacrificing their health. Yulia's orthopedic injuries (multiple stress fractures, flatfeet, foot misalignment are the worst) are very serious, now and in the future.
 
sjid said:
I think you sum up the dilemma perfectly. The choices we make reflect what we value most.
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I don't need complex jumps to enjoy the skaters I love. But I can't agree with "eliminate complex jumps" because that violates the principle of sport. Though figure skating is about the only sport I care about, we can't give skaters preferential treatment... :no:

So long as they're not retired/skating in shows (in which case, I often wish they wouldn't push it unnecessarily), I think complex jumps are part of the demands.

I don't know where this "jump reworking" will take Yulia... I do hope it's a technique that minimizes injury, while giving her her confidence back.

EDIT: You just opened another can of worms... (another wound for all us fans, in fact). I don't want to contemplate Yulia retiring, because I had such hopes for her going into the next cycle. I really thought--with her consistency--she'd continue right into 2018 with no problems.

I agree, her health is highest priority. But if she feels motivated again, and feels the glory is worth the pain... Anyway, I feel the decision can only be made by Yulia herself. We shall see where her journey goes.
 
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Sandpiper said:
I don't need complex jumps to enjoy the skaters I love. But I can't agree with "eliminate complex jumps" because that violates the principle of sport. Though figure skating is about the only sport I care about, we can't give skaters preferential treatment... :no:

So long as they're not retired/skating in shows (in which case, I often wish they wouldn't push it unnecessarily), I think complex jumps are part of the demands.

I don't know where this "jump reworking" will take Yulia... I do hope it's a technique that minimizes injury, while giving her her confidence back.

EDIT: You just opened another can of worms... (another wound for all us fans, in fact). I don't want to contemplate Yulia retiring, because I had such hopes for her going into the next cycle. I really thought--with her consistency--she'd continue right into 2018 with no problems.

I agree, her health is highest priority. But if she feels motivated again, and feels the glory is worth the pain... Anyway, I feel the decision can only be made by Yulia herself. We shall see where her journey goes.
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I feel exactly as you do. The biggest concern I have is the same advice from two iindependent specialists, and to a lesser extent Eteri's suggestion. She is very stubborn and doesn't complain. She needs to be very honest with herself.
 
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sjid said:
Yuia may be better off in shows. When the advice to retire is made by two orthopedic surgeons, and Eteri's gentle suggestion as well, she should give it serious consideration.
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I thought the same thing, when I read those Eteri's words, just haven't had the courage to write it here... :hopelessness:
 
Sandpiper said:
I agree, her health is highest priority. But if she feels motivated again, and feels the glory is worth the pain... Anyway, I feel the decision can only be made by Yulia herself. We shall see where her journey goes.
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Sandpiper, I forgot to mention that pain, however severe, may not be the worst outcome. If she pushes herself too much, she could become disabled either now or in the future. I suspect this concern is what motivated the specialists' advice. I am not arguing with you, we agree on practically everything. I left this thread for several days because I didn't want to read more bleak reports on her mental or physical condition. She has given us good reason to be concerned, and you know Yulia--she never tells us everything.
 
I wonder about other ladies? Do they have to suffer from the same amount of injuries? Or in Yulia's case it's more problematic and more severe? If it's because of her body having more tendency to get injuries, then I hope she will stop for the sake of her health. She's already a champion. If she stops now and only skates in shows, I have absolutely nothing against that decision. And I will continue to support her even in ice shows.
 
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