Yuzuru Hanyu: 2015-16 Season

[gsyzf]

I was wondering the same about the 3A+2T. The last time I can remember he did the 2T without the arms over his head was during the Olympic FS which was a nervy performance. In my eyes the first 3A in the Autumn Classic FS seemed good enough to add the 3T at the end, but maybe he just had a moment where he didn't realize it would've been safe to do a 3T since he was worried the 4T might be downgraded (it was under rotated). I did initially think he did a 2T because he wasn't sure if his 4T would be downgraded, and that it was a split second decision.

At NHK in 2014 he did avoid zayaking after he turned the 4T into a 3T by not doing the second 3A and doing the 3Lz at the end. I always thought he made that decision in the split second too (injuries aside, I still think he could've landed the 3A-1Lo-3S) to single the axel so he could keep the 3Lz at the end. Points-wise it would've made more sense to keep the 3A-1Lo-3S and double the 3Lz instead, but he probably didn't realize it in the heat of the moment, even if he was thinking fast enough to realize that he was going to zayak if he continued as planned..

Yuzuru’s layout at NHK last season is different from the layout he is using this season. At NHK, he planned two 3A and two 3lz. So if he popped his 4t into 3t, then he would be repeating 3t as well. He would be repeating 3 triples and zayak. So he popped 3A to 1A to avoid zayaking.

But this season, he is repeating 4t and 3A. If he pops a 4t into 3t (or the 4t gets a downgrade), he will repeat 3t and 3A instead of 4t and 3A. So he is still only repeating two triples/quads. He would not zayak even if the 2nd 4t gets a downgrade. His layout is quite zayak safe. That’s why I don’t think he skipped 3t to avoid zayaking. If possible, he would’ve jumped 3A3t instead of 3A2t to get more points.

 

[Meoima]

Yuzuru’s layout at NHK last season is different from the layout he is using this season. At NHK, he planned two 3A and two 3lz. So if he popped his 4t into 3t, then he would be repeating 3t as well. He would be repeating 3 triples and zayak. So he popped 3A to 1A to avoid zayaking.
But this season, he is repeating 4t and 3A. If he pops a 4t into 3t (or the 4t gets a downgrade), he will repeat 3t and 3A instead of 4t and 3A. So he is still only repeating two triples/quads. He would not zayak even if the 2nd 4t gets a downgrade. His layout is quite zayak safe. That’s why I don’t think he skipped 3t to avoid zayaking. If possible, he would’ve jumped 3A3t instead of 3A2t to get more points.

I think there was some hesitation in both of his 3A during Seimei at AU. Maybe he was thinking "What should I do now that I failed the quad combo?". So the fall on the quad affected him more than he expected. I think he only recovered after the second 3A, like: "Oh no I have made too many mistakes, I need to wake up!" so he added the 1Lo3S after the 3Lo.

And I agree he couldn't add 3T after the 3Lz because there's a spin right after that.

 

[twitwi]

Awwwww that's too sweet and thoughtful of you Geo1! And thank you Lunnap99 for creating this video which will actually be helping Yuzu!
Since Yuzu might be watching this video, it just came across my mind, wouldn't it be nice if people can leave some comments on youtube showing our love for this program (and for Yuzu himself)?

Great idea! The problem here is in Japanese or in English....? I am afraid, you know....

 

[gsyzf]

Saw Yuzuru's new FS and FINALLY, I think this is the LP everyone was looking for. it's a great vehicle for him. Such a shame that he's going for 3 quads though, there's no need for that. He sets too high expectations for himself and can never live up to that, his performances could be much more.

3 quads is pretty much a must for the next Olympics. Even juniors today are attempting 3 quads. If Yuzuru doesn’t plan to include 3 quads, he is basically planning to lose at the next Olympics. The advantage of GOE and PCS will vanish in a second as soon as his rivals improve and become more consistent by the Olympics and Yuzuru doesn’t upgrade his layout. History has shown that champions that don’t upgrade their layouts for 3-4 years will lose at the Olympics.

Yuzuru doesn’t set unrealistic goals and expectations. He actually achieved all the goals he set for himself in the past. I believe he can achieve the new goals he set for himself. He has enormous talent and potential. He is definitely capable of doing more than just a 2-quad LP. It would be a shame that he stops at 2 quads. I’m glad he doesn’t stop at 2 quads.

None of the men is consistent. Yuzuru is the most consistent and reliable male skater. Most men only have 1 good competition per season. Yuzuru usually has 3-4 good competitions per season and he does it with the most difficulty layout in the field.

 

[ElenaClaire]

I sent an email to the Cricket Club with a link to this edited video asking that it be passed on to Brian and Yuzuru.

"I would really be obliged if you would pass on this email message to Brian Orser and Yuzuru Hanyu. They may have already seen this on YouTube, but it is a link to a video compiled by a fan (not me) by editing the two free skate practices at the 2015 Autumn Classic International. The result is a clean, perhaps perfect, SEIMEI performance. I understand that Yuzuru likes to study his successful jumps and performances and I thought that this would be useful to him. The step sequence leading into the second half of the program is mesmerizing in the practice. All of Yuzu's fans are raving about it."

I received the following email from Erin d'Eon, the skating coordinator at the Cricket Club:

"Thank you for forwarding the link to the video edit, and for your ongoing support of Yuzuru. This morning Brian Orser and I watched the video, and I have forwarded it to him so he will have the link and can show it to Yuzu. You are correct; he likes to have references to clean run-throughs and this is valuable early in the season."

For those of you who have not seen the edited video, it was created by Lunnap99 of this forum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvkCejzJQ6E

Lunnap99, if you're reading this, please rest assured that in my reply to Erin d'Eon I gave you full credit for creating this wonderful video. I was just the messenger.

Oh wow that's great to hear!! :agree:


Also, talking about his AC jumps, I think given all circumstances, he's done his best. The fall with the 3rd quad obviously has affected him.. seen from his wobbly 3As but he succeed in securing as much point possible by saving the loop salchow combination and (thank goodness) nice 3Lz.
If, God forbid, anything like that happens in the future, where the damage might hurt his score badly, I'm sure they'd have some alternatives ready for him to minimize the possible lose point. The tricky thing is that his 3rd quad MUST be a combination so if he fails he'd get the repeated call, and then he'd want to do the rest of the jumps perfectly..

 

[kiches]

Yuzuru’s layout at NHK last season is different from the layout he is using this season. At NHK, he planned two 3A and two 3lz. So if he popped his 4t into 3t, then he would be repeating 3t as well. He would be repeating 3 triples and zayak. So he popped 3A to 1A to avoid zayaking.

But this season, he is repeating 4t and 3A. If he pops a 4t into 3t (or the 4t gets a downgrade), he will repeat 3t and 3A instead of 4t and 3A. So he is still only repeating two triples/quads. He would not zayak even if the 2nd 4t gets a downgrade. His layout is quite zayak safe. That’s why I don’t think he skipped 3t to avoid zayaking. If possible, he would’ve jumped 3A3t instead of 3A2t to get more points.

Yes I know his layout this year is pretty zayak proof and that even if that quad had been downgraded to a 3T he would've been fine doing another 3T at the end of the axel, I'm just wondering if he might have had a moment of uncertainty on his layout and decided to do a 2T instead of 3T in spur of the moment without realizing even if he did two 3T he'd be okay.

Yuzuru thinks quickly on his feet, but as I was trying to point out in NHK last year if he wanted to maximize the points after he tripled the 4T he should've kept both 3A's and doubled the final lutz to avoid zayaking insteading of choosing to single the axel in the 1A-1lo-3S. My guess was that at NHK after he did the 3A+3T was when he realized he would zayak, hence he made a snap decision to single the axel. Maybe if he had more time to think he would've chosen to double the lutz instead. He still prevented himself from zayaking at NHK, but maybe wasn't able to think fast enough on how to fully maximize the points with the jumps he still had left while performing. I don't know, but for some reason I thought maybe the 3A+2T this time during Autumn Classic may have been a similar situation where he wasn't able to think fast enough and mistakenly thought he might zayak with a 3T even if he would've been fine, we may never really find out why he did a 3A+2T this time.

 

[ranran]

I sent an email to the Cricket Club with a link to this edited video asking that it be passed on to Brian and Yuzuru.

"I would really be obliged if you would pass on this email message to Brian Orser and Yuzuru Hanyu. They may have already seen this on YouTube, but it is a link to a video compiled by a fan (not me) by editing the two free skate practices at the 2015 Autumn Classic International. The result is a clean, perhaps perfect, SEIMEI performance. I understand that Yuzuru likes to study his successful jumps and performances and I thought that this would be useful to him. The step sequence leading into the second half of the program is mesmerizing in the practice. All of Yuzu's fans are raving about it."

I received the following email from Erin d'Eon, the skating coordinator at the Cricket Club:

"Thank you for forwarding the link to the video edit, and for your ongoing support of Yuzuru. This morning Brian Orser and I watched the video, and I have forwarded it to him so he will have the link and can show it to Yuzu. You are correct; he likes to have references to clean run-throughs and this is valuable early in the season."

For those of you who have not seen the edited video, it was created by Lunnap99 of this forum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvkCejzJQ6E

Lunnap99, if you're reading this, please rest assured that in my reply to Erin d'Eon I gave you full credit for creating this wonderful video. I was just the messenger.

Thank you for your effort sending them the emel. Very happy to know Cricket Club responded well and able to deliver the message as well

Is it just me or his Chopin-Xylitol costume looks better than the competition one? The sides looks to be in more suitable material hopefully he will use that one instead XD

 

[matmuh]

Lotte kind off redeemed themselves for now...

He is so gorgeous here

thats my favourite too!! it might be one of the best commercial pictures of him (if not the best!), its just perfect

Edit: happy 1900th page!! its pretty sure bet to think we will reach 2000 pages until GPF

 

[SuzyQ]

He is so gorgeous here

I wanted this type, but "Family Mart" did not have

Nishikawa started a campaign.

http://www.nishikawasangyo.co.jp/documents/kiwameru_release.pdf

http://kiwameru-tokyonishikawa.jp/

What is the prize; "Yuzuru Hanyu" original lap blanket like ? :think:
Made of wool?

 

[sloveniangirl]

There is no doubt Yuzuru can do 3 quads. He can and he will. Period.:yes:

 

[Elaine666]

There is no doubt Yuzuru can do 3 quads. He can and he will. Period.:yes:

I would like to add one more thing. He can do 3 quads, and delivery a high quality program in every aspect at the same time.

 

[Lunna]

Lunnap99, if you're reading this, please rest assured that in my reply to Erin d'Eon I gave you full credit for creating this wonderful video. I was just the messenger.

OMG! Thank you for the trouble :shocked: Originally after two FS practices one of the fans in the Russian vk fan group http://vk.com/yuzuru_hanyu suggested that someone could combine two videos. I sometimes do video edits for fun so I decided why not and here we are
The best award for me will be to see such performance live at GPF this year Go, Yuzu!

 

[alia jackson]

Such a compassionate eyes.

 

[cruzceleste]

Happy 1900+1 pages, thank you all for the comments, links, pictures, videos and translations.

 

[Geo1]

OMG! Thank you for the trouble :shocked: Originally after two FS practices one of the fans in the Russian vk fan group http://vk.com/yuzuru_hanyu suggested that someone could combine two videos. I sometimes do video edits for fun so I decided why not and here we are
The best award for me will be to see such performance live at GPF this year Go, Yuzu!

Yuzu does so much visualizing and image training. I'm hoping that your video will help him achieve consistently clean, inspired performances of SEIMEI, particularly at the Grand Prix Final and World Championships.

 

[shiroKJ]

Tweet from Autumn Classics:

@Beverley Smith
Autumn Classic gems: [excluded...] Seeing Hanyu land a 4loop in the midst of a practice flurry of 4Sals.

+Additional fancams from Autumn Classics
Ⓐ Ⓑ Ⓒ Ⓓ Ⓔ Ⓕ Ⓖ Ⓗ

+Very cute fanart : [cr.]
Foxy Magician and "Hanyu" Angel

 

[foruiz]

I wanted this type, but "Family Mart" did not have

My neighborhood Aeon and Family Mart does not have one either, they do not have any file folders. I have to go to a bigger Aeon. Arrgh.

 

[shyne]

Tweet from Autumn Classics:

+Additional fancams from Autumn Classics
Ⓐ Ⓑ Ⓒ Ⓓ Ⓔ Ⓕ Ⓖ Ⓗ

+Very cute fanart : [cr.]
Foxy Magician and "Hanyu" Angel

cool

 

[alia jackson]

Wowser! Top total, SP and LP scores

Skate Canada SP schedule

 

[Geo1]

Wowser! Top total, SP and LP scores

Skate Canada SP schedule

These are more complete lists of the top total, free skate and short program scores as of October 15, 2015.

For his first outing in the 2015 Autumn Classic International, Yuzuru did not do too badly.

His total score at the 2015 ACI was 277.19 which is the 11th highest total score of all time.

His free skate score at the 2015 ACI was 184.05 which is tied for 10th highest free skate score of all time with Tatsuki Machida's free skate score of 184.05 at the 2014 Saitama World Championships.

His short program score at the 2015 ACI was 93.14 which is the 19th highest short program score of all time.

Top 11 Total Scores Men – October 15, 2015

01 Patrick Chan (Canada) 295.27 (SP 98.52; FS 196.75) 2013 Trophee Eric Bompard
02 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 293.25 (SP 99.84; FS 193.41) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
03 Denis Ten (Kazakhstan) 289.46 (SP 97.61; FS 191.85) 2015 4CC (Seoul)
04 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 288.58 (SP 96.27; FS 192.31) 2015 WTT (Tokyo)
05 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 288.16 (SP 94.08; FS 194.08) 2014 GPF (Barcelona)
06 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 282.59 (SP 91.24; FS 191.35) 2014 WC (Saitama)
07 Tatsuki Machida (Japan) 282.26 (SP 98.21; FS 184.05) 2014 WC (Saitama)
08 Patrick Chan (Canada) 280.98 (SP 93.02; FS 187.96) 2011 WC (Moscow)
09 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 280.09 (SP 101.45; FS 178.68) 2014 Olympics (Sochi)
10 Patrick Chan (Canada) 280.08 (SP 87.47; FS 192.61) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
11 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 277.19 (SP 93.14; FS 184.05) 2015 SC Autumn Classic International (Barrie, Ontario)

Top 14 Free Skate Scores Men – October 15, 2015

01 Patrick Chan (Canada) 196.75 (SP 98.52; TP 295.27) 2013 Trophee Eric Bompard
02 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 194.08 (SP 94.08; TP 288.16) 2014 GPF (Barcelona)
03 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 193.41 (SP 99.84; TP 293.25) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
04 Patrick Chan (Canada) 192.61 (SP 87.47; TP 280.08) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
05 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 192.31 (SP 96.27; TP 288.58) 2015 WTT (Tokyo)
06 Denis Ten (Kazakhstan) 191.85 (SP 97.61; TP 289.46) 2015 4CC (Seoul)
07 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 191.35 (SP 91.24; TP 282.59) 2014 WC (Saitama)
08 Patrick Chan (Canada) 187.96 (SP 93.02; TP 280.98) 2011 WC (Moscow)
09 Shoma Uno (Japan) 185.48 (no short program) 2015 Japan Open (Saitama)
10 Tatsuki Machida (Japan) 184.05 (SP 98.21; TP 282.26) 2014 WC (Saitama)
10 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 184.05 (SP 93.14; TP 277.19) 2015 SC Autumn Classic International (Barrie, Ontario)
11 Dennis Ten (Kazakhstan) 181.83 (SP 85.89; TP 267.72) 2015 WC (Shanghai)
12 Javier Fernandez (Spain) 181.16 (SP 92.74; TP 273.90) 2015 WC (Shanghai)
13 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 180.93 (SP 84.66; TP 265.59) 2013 Finlandia Trophy (Espoo)
14 Takahiko Kozuka (Japan) 180.79 (SP 77.62; TP 258.41) 2011 WC (Moscow)

Top 20 Short Program Scores Men – October 15, 2015

01 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 101.45 (FS 178.68; TP 280.09) 2014 Olympics (Sochi)
02 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 99.84 (FS 193.41; TP 293.25) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
03 Patrick Chan (Canada) 98.52 (FS 196.75; TP 295.27) 2013 Trophee Eric Bompard
04 Patrick Chan (Canada) 98.37 (FS 169.41; TP 267.78) 2013 WC (London, Ontario)
05 Tatsuki Machida (Japan) 98.21 (FS 184.05; TP 282.26) 2014 WC (Saitama)
06 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 97.98 (no free skate) 2014 Olympics Team Event (Sochi)
07 Denis Ten (Kazakhstan) 97.61 (FS 191.85; TP 289.46) 2015 4CC (Seoul)
08 Patrick Chan (Canada) 97.52 (FS 178.10; TP 275.62) 2014 Olympics (Sochi)
09 Javier Fernandez (Spain) 96.42 (FS 179.51; TP 275.93) 2014 WC (Saitama)
10 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 96.27 (FS 192.31; TP 288.58) 2015 WTT (Tokyo)
11 Daisuke Takahashi (Japan) 95.55 (FS 172.76; TP 268.31) 2013 NHK Trophy (Tokyo)
12 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 95.37 (FS 168.22; TP 263.59) 2013 Trophee Eric Bompard
13 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 95.32 (FS 165.71; TP 261.03) 2012 NHK Trophy (Sendai)
14 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 95.20 (FS 175.88; TP 271.08) 2015 WC (Shanghai)
15 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 95.07 (FS 148.67; TP 243.74) 2012 Skate America (Kent)
16 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 94.08 (FS 194.08; TP 288.16) 2014 GPF (Barcelona)
17 Javier Fernandez (Spain) 93.92 (FS 171.09; TP 265.01) 2014 COR (Moscow)
18 Tatsuki Machida (Japan) 93.39 (FS 175.70; TP 269.09) 2014 Skate America (Chicago)
19 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 93.14 (FS 184.05; TP 277.19) 2015 SC Autumn Classic International (Barrie, Ontario)
20 Patrick Chan (Canada) 93.02 (FS 187.96; TP 280.98) 2011 WC (Moscow)