Mao Asada
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Goodness...stomach flu is no joke. And she performed her LP with that? She's even tougher than I thought. Please get some rest and get well soon Mao. Your fans will definitely understand if you can not compete at Nationals/World. Your health is definitely the #1 priority, and it matters more than any competition or medals.
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Probably it was the first time Mao withdrew from Gala all through her carrier.
I think illness besides, she must have been exhausted.
I hope she will take her burden off her shoulders a bit more and be able to relax so she would get well soon.
I think illness besides, she must have been exhausted.
I hope she will take her burden off her shoulders a bit more and be able to relax so she would get well soon.
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I wrote this because I am feeling a lot of sympathy for Mao.
I didn't intend to begin this journey.
Japan had always been half a world away
till one day I saw tears flood my television.
A beautiful ballerina battling back with triple axels.
An angel's wings descended from the heavens
at Worlds 2007. Was it joy or heartache,
or a bittersweet mix of the rich tapestry in between?
Radiating symmetry and expression in each motion.
A brilliant vision of perfection I had never imagined.
A genuine spring of emotion flowing from a soulful source.
Men with microscopes squinted to see a touch on the ice
invisible to me in real time and subtracted a point from paradise.
The value of her axel took a big hit in the new system.
Her expectations deflated backstage her tears began again.
So the tide of Mao's world on ice turned in an epic ebb and flow.
I didn't intend to begin this journey.
Japan had always been half a world away
till one day I saw tears flood my television.
A beautiful ballerina battling back with triple axels.
An angel's wings descended from the heavens
at Worlds 2007. Was it joy or heartache,
or a bittersweet mix of the rich tapestry in between?
Radiating symmetry and expression in each motion.
A brilliant vision of perfection I had never imagined.
A genuine spring of emotion flowing from a soulful source.
Men with microscopes squinted to see a touch on the ice
invisible to me in real time and subtracted a point from paradise.
The value of her axel took a big hit in the new system.
Her expectations deflated backstage her tears began again.
So the tide of Mao's world on ice turned in an epic ebb and flow.
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This is quite beautiful. And I love "men with microscopes squinted to see a touch on the ice" (guilty!)
But what do you mean by "the value of her axel took a big hit in the new system?" I wasn't aware of any changes that hurt the value of 3A?
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Thanks for kind comment. Under 6.0, I have repeatedly heard that the triple axel was worth more than it was under COP, especially the system as it was in 2007 up until 2010 when it was only worth a little over 7 points, but even now when it is worth more than in 2007, it is my understanding that it is still worth less than it was under 6.0 when Midori Ito competed and did it. This is why Mao not winning in 2007 was so heartbreaking to me, especially because her 2007 Worlds LP is one of my favorite performances and because of her devastated reaction to coming up 1/2 a point short, not to mention the fact that Mao was penalized so heavily for singling her backend triple / triple combo in the short. Also, though I know tech issues were addressed under 6.0, they weren't penalized or reviewed to the same extent as they were in 2007 or now. For example, Oksana Bauil double footed quite a few jumps in the 1994 Olympics and still won against Nancy Kerrigan and my favorite at this competition, Lu Chen, who I believe both had as many or more triples. Lu Chen hitting the boards in the short and her hand down on her final triple in the long was also a heartbreaker for me.
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Agreed with what the previous poster said. The value of the triple axel and maybe the quads have always be an issue since the IJS was introduced. At Vancouver many people were talking about the base values of Mao's 3A+2T and Yuna's 3L+3T, and they were shocked that Mao's combo didn't receive at least the same, if not higher, than Yuna's 3L+3T, Kristi Yamaguchi and the british commentators said so.
And I think, the current system encourage skaters to go away from harder combo, for example, a 3T+3Lo and a 3Lo+3T receive the same value, but the former one is harder because one has to do a loop after a jump, which is harder than doing a toeloop. In this case many skaters tend to do a loop-toe rather than a toe-loop to ensure full rotation and full base value and a place on the podium. Of course I am not saying that every one who has been on the podium adopted this strategy and not every one has to do a XXX+loop combo, but this is how the system is working.
And I think, the current system encourage skaters to go away from harder combo, for example, a 3T+3Lo and a 3Lo+3T receive the same value, but the former one is harder because one has to do a loop after a jump, which is harder than doing a toeloop. In this case many skaters tend to do a loop-toe rather than a toe-loop to ensure full rotation and full base value and a place on the podium. Of course I am not saying that every one who has been on the podium adopted this strategy and not every one has to do a XXX+loop combo, but this is how the system is working.
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I remember this video of Scott Hamilton on American tv that was posted on youtube where he explained that Yuna's 3Lz+3T was worth more points than Mao's 3A+2T because "it was more difficult since Yuna did 6 revolutions in the air and Mao did only 5 and 1/2" and I was like ...... ???????!!!!!??????? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING???? STOP LYING RIGHT NOW. HOW CAN A FORMER SKATER SAY THOSE BS??
I also remember that after the short program, everyone was kinda disgusted Mao was 5 points behind when both her and Yuna skated perfectly. Hard times...
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I also heard that Scott Hamilton said that Adelina Sotnikova had the first one handed Biellmann in the Olympics, even though he was announcing when Mao did my favorite one handed Biellmann in Vancouver.
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OhHHH yes i remember that video!!!!! Yes Scott definitely had a concussion thats why he could say that kind of ********. and I am SO glad he is not doing commentary anymore cuz he is like super biased and said a lot of crap (but Tara and Johnny are not much better though)
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Yah exactly probably he is too old he has Alzheimer's
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Scott Hamilton is embarrassing. Mao dominated 2006-10 with one handed Biellmanns, and yet we're supposed to go by his (lack of) knowledge.
And 3Lz-3T is so much harder than a 3A-2T, that we have more girls/ladies now attempting 3A (let alone a 3A-2T) over a 3Lz-3T. Right Scotty?
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Yes, that was him.
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rosewood posted these messages:
This article has an interview with Mao after FS. (Sorry I don't have time to translate now) She sounded frustrated with current mental, technical, and physical conditions. She also indicated that changes of the jump layouts are in her considerations (for Nats).
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20151213-00000510-sanspo-spo
http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/ind...er-beauty-is-her-biggest-weapon.95911/page-19 post number 546
rosewood also posted this message: Hey, guys! We're gonna watch new version of "Jupiter" on Jan 9th in NHK's show which is designed for supporting 3.11 affected people.
http://www.nhk-p.co.jp/event/detail.php?id=528#spex_mao
http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/ind...er-beauty-is-her-biggest-weapon.95911/page-19 post 544
I think it's great that Mao is going to do this performance in one way, but then again I wish she would rest after Nationals to regain good health.
This article has an interview with Mao after FS. (Sorry I don't have time to translate now) She sounded frustrated with current mental, technical, and physical conditions. She also indicated that changes of the jump layouts are in her considerations (for Nats).
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20151213-00000510-sanspo-spo
http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/ind...er-beauty-is-her-biggest-weapon.95911/page-19 post number 546
rosewood also posted this message: Hey, guys! We're gonna watch new version of "Jupiter" on Jan 9th in NHK's show which is designed for supporting 3.11 affected people.
http://www.nhk-p.co.jp/event/detail.php?id=528#spex_mao
http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/ind...er-beauty-is-her-biggest-weapon.95911/page-19 post 544
I think it's great that Mao is going to do this performance in one way, but then again I wish she would rest after Nationals to regain good health.
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Someone posted this on youtube TSL's 2015 GPF Recap:
Mina Frolove 1 day ago
Regarding Mao, Tarasova during the event said that she has problems with acclimatization - on 3-4 day it strikes her bad and she cannot deal with it. Tarasova even addressed that issue but Mao's team do not believe in such a thing as acclimatization.
I was wondering if someone here who speaks Russian, can translate Tarasova's commentary on Mao's LP performance and confirm the acclimatization part.
Mina Frolove 1 day ago
Regarding Mao, Tarasova during the event said that she has problems with acclimatization - on 3-4 day it strikes her bad and she cannot deal with it. Tarasova even addressed that issue but Mao's team do not believe in such a thing as acclimatization.
I was wondering if someone here who speaks Russian, can translate Tarasova's commentary on Mao's LP performance and confirm the acclimatization part.
