Yuzuru Hanyu: 2015-16 Season

[JuliettaG]

With Boyang's current content, it's a matter of time that he earns big scores.And Shoma is capable of doing 4f, 4Lo, 4T and 4S.I see them as the biggest threats for Yuzuru. They've nothing to lose, and in two years they can evolve a lot.But I think Yuzu is aware of this, and he'll try to evolve too. Seeing this kids will help him as motivation.

 

[Meoima]

With Boyang's current content, it's a matter of time that he earns big scores.And Shoma is capable of doing 4f, 4Lo, 4T and 4S.I see them as the biggest threats for Yuzuru. They've nothing to lose, and in two years they can evolve a lot.But I think Yuzu is aware of this, and he'll try to evolve too. Seeing this kids will help him as motivation.

Given all the footages that I have seen (slow motion and all), the only folk with true clean and consistent quads among all young skaters is Boyang. The rest are either massively UR or massively pre-rotated so they will have to rely on the generosity of the tech panel. However tech panel have often been generous for men. So I am not surprised if some men will get away.
You will always see more < and e call on the ladies side, but that doesn't mean the men have less technical issue, they're just getting more generous calls from the tech specialists because the norm think that men have less issue with technique than ladies.
I'm sure, if tech panel is too easy as usual, the only difference in the end will be the BV (of course how they will skate clean or not).

 

[Interspectator]

http://number.bunshun.jp/articles/-/825508
The cameraman who took Yuzu's photos for the Number Magazine's cover said that there were almost no bad shots.
The photos were taken after the Worlds Gala.
Yuzu was aware of the lighting and when told that the theme was 'smart and intellectual' was able to respond to it immediately.
He also was considerate of the short time available to interview and take photos so he spoke quickly.

 

[mcq]

Given all the footages that I have seen (slow motion and all), the only folk with true clean and consistent quads among all young skaters is Boyang. The rest are either massively UR or massively pre-rotated so they will have to rely on the generosity of the tech panel. However tech panel have often been generous for men. So I am not surprised if some men will get away.
You will always see more < and e call on the ladies side, but that doesn't mean the men have less technical issue, they're just getting more generous calls from the tech specialists because the norm think that men have less issue with technique than ladies.
I'm sure, if tech panel is too easy as usual, the only difference in the end will be the BV (of course how they will skate clean or not).

I agree with you. Before worlds I would say it is not necessary for him to up his tech content. But given how everyone will do so (shoma patrick etc), yuzu doesn't have the cushion he had prior to these men upping their game. In the end it will depend on how the others are doing. We can't expect boyang to stay stagnant in PCS and GOEs and shoma alrdy have like 89 pcs on his fs at gpf so who knows what will happen by olympics. Also, we are talking about a guy who add a 4S on his SP mid-season. If he is healthy and can execute a clean LP with a 4Lo, i don't see why he won't do it. Though, i do think he will not do it early in the season, doing a new type of quad in a program would be harder than adding the number of already mastered quad. Also, he did say in his post WC interview, he felt he somewhat mastered his seimei layout and definitely would up his tech content to challenge himself

 

[SuzyQ]

Boy Next Door. Yuzu-kun. So cute :luv17:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFQ-Jn0yHg4&list=PLA7B7A12139AE78AB

 

[alia jackson]

Lol, What is the name of the skater?

I'm not sure the skater name, it looks like from this week Chinese Taipei National Team Selection Championship

 

[Sorrento]

Many skaters can do wonders during practice skates. Many can land multiple quads. But the things is- what they can land during the competitions? What jumps they can rely on? Be 100% sure they work. Very few assume the risk and go for a jump which is not 100% certain. If they succed- it's a win win. If they don't- they lose big time.
I don't think Yuzu needs 6 quads per two programs at Olympics to win. Right now I don't see it happen. Things might change in a year and a half. But right now 5 quads and a consistent performance is all that leaders need to win. There is no need to risk their health, each of them have their limits. I don't wish to have injured leaders Olympics event. I don't wish to see who breaks down first and most. Stay healthy guys! I want a strong& healthy battle.

 

[Meoima]

Many skaters can do wonders during practice skates. Many can land multiple quads. But the things is- what they can land during the competitions? What jumps they can rely on? Be 100% sure they work. Very few assume the risk and go for a jump which is not 100% certain. If they succed- it's a win win. If they don't- they lose big time.
I don't think Yuzu needs 6 quads per two programs at Olympics to win. Right now I don't see it happen. Things might change in a year and a half. But right now 5 quads and a consistent performance is all that leaders need to win. There is no need to risk their health, each of them have their limits. I don't wish to have injured leaders Olympics event. I don't wish to see who breaks down first and most. Stay healthy guys! I want a strong& healthy battle.

I do agree next season, 5 quads in both programs with somewhat clean performances will certain a win. But by Olympic, 6 quads will be more like the standard I think. Especially with younger men trying to close the gap with quantity (like going for 6 quads and all). As by Olympic the PCS and even GOE gap will not be huge between top contenders as we have seen at Sochi.
I think Yuzuru should go for 6 quads in both programs by the time Olympic is there.

 

[Rissa]

I do agree next season, 5 quads in both programs with somewhat clean performances will certain a win. But by Olympic, 6 quads will be more like the standard I think. Especially with younger men trying to close the gap with quantity (like going for 6 quads and all). As by Olympic the PCS and even GOE gap will not be huge between top contenders as we have seen at Sochi.
I think Yuzuru should go for 6 quads in both programs by the time Olympic is there.

Younger guys won't have the PCS to close the gap, even if they have 6 quads. Older guys, and by that I mean Javi because I can't see anyone else upgrading to that level, will have issues with a 4 quads LP just like Yuzu will. If Yuzu goes clean with 3 different quads and 8-triple program, he will win even over Javi with 4 quads in LP. Genrrally I'd rather he won with a clean program and the more quads the lower the chance of that.

In Sochi Patrick didn't lose because he didn'f upgrade the layout, he lost because he fell apart. A clean Patrick would have still won over a clean Yuzuru back then.

But, of Yuzu decides ro go for a 4 quad LP, I hope he does it this season, so that he has time to get used to the effort.

 

[Sorrento]

I do agree next season, 5 quads in both programs with somewhat clean performances will certain a win. But by Olympic, 6 quads will be more like the standard I think. Especially with younger men trying to close the gap with quantity (like going for 6 quads and all). As by Olympic the PCS and even GOE gap will not be huge between top contenders as we have seen at Sochi.
I think Yuzuru should go for 6 quads in both programs by the time Olympic is there.

Look, he is not getting younger. Then he has an injury that he himself said was caused by the way he practiced his quad. He said he needs to change the training method and I think perhaps he might need to adjust/ change his technique. Which is a huge effort and requires a lot of practice and a lot of focus during performances. Because when they get tired and get a lot of stress which is basically like every huge competition then their body will go for the skill is learned a long time ago so the jump may suffer almost 100%.
When skaters are young and daring then they sure want to jump every quad in the world. But reality is that it never happens. The main focus for Yuzuru should be not the number of quads but quality on jumps and rest of required elements. If he delivers quality he did this season at NHK and GPF I do not worry for him. No matter what BV couple of younger non quality skaters could claim.

 

[Sorrento]

Brian Orser interview with CANON in Japanese: http://web.canon.jp/event/skating/interview/int_brian01_1.html Can anyone translate it please?

 

[alia jackson]

Hi! Yuzu :gclap:

 

[mcq]

First of all, I completely understand that his fans would not like him to up his content since we are worried about his health and he seems injury-prone lately. I don't like this idea as well. What i don't get is there seems to be an understanding that a clean yuzuru with his current layout will be untouchable by anyone no matter how much the younger ones (or even javi and patrick) improve their tech content. This seems very dismissive of the younger skaters (and javi and patrick), maybe borderline arrogant, as if they will never improve their jumping techniques, SS or TR. 2 yrs is a long time to improve, anything could happen. They could either crumble or improve we will never know. The talk is in the table as a "what if" case anyway. As in what if someone with a decent ss and tr in their program could cleanly execute 6-quad programs. So...

 

[Sorrento]

First of all, I completely understand that his fans would not like him to up his content since we are worried about his health and he seems injury-prone lately. I don't like this idea as well. What i don't get is there seems to be an understanding that a clean yuzuru with his current layout will be untouchable by anyone no matter how much the younger ones (or even javi and patrick) improve their tech content. This seems very dismissive of the younger skaters (and javi and patrick), maybe borderline arrogant, as if they will never improve their jumping techniques, SS or TR. 2 yrs is a long time to improve, anything could happen. They could either crumble or improve we will never know. The talk is in the table as a "what if" case anyway. As in what if someone with a decent ss and tr in their program could cleanly execute 6-quad programs. So...

Yuzuru can up his BV and he will do that if he could intorduce the new quad to his program(s). That is what he can do and will most probably do. But I don't think he needs a 4 quad LP in order to win. Sure others will progress. I don't think he needs the higherst BV on the paper. He needs to have it planned in a way that it can be performed flawless and with maximum GOE and PCS. That is what quality approach is all about.

 

[mcq]

Yuzuru can up his BV and he will do that if he could intorduce the new quad to his program(s). That is what he can do and will most probably do. But I don't think he needs a 4 quad LP in order to win. Sure others will progress. I don't think he needs the higherst BV on the paper. He needs to have it planned in a way that it can be performed flawless and with maximum GOE and PCS. That is what quality approach is all about.

Yeah, I agree. The reason he was so dominant this season was because he was raking in the points in GOE, BV and PCS. Actually adding a 4Lo itself is alrdy a challenge. So whatever upgrade he would like to do after that would depend on the consistency of his 4Lo. I at least do hope that it wont take as long as the 4S to stabilize in competition

 

[Meoima]

Yuzuru can up his BV and he will do that if he could intorduce the new quad to his program(s). That is what he can do and will most probably do. But I don't think he needs a 4 quad LP in order to win. Sure others will progress. I don't think he needs the higherst BV on the paper. He needs to have it planned in a way that it can be performed flawless and with maximum GOE and PCS. That is what quality approach is all about.

In my opinion, Yuzuru does need the highest BV (or not highest, it should be among top 2 or 3 and the gap should be just within 2 points). Because you can never tell when judges just simply decide: "Ok,+3 for everyone. And 9-10 PCS for everyone."
We can never rely on the judges for such thing because they change like the wind. So the only constant thing that wouldn't change is the BV. 108 BV will always be 108 (maybe it can be 105-106 or so depends on level calls) and by that way your fate is more on your own hands.
Not to mention he does say that he will do 4Lo and he will have 2nd quads in LP, that means 4 quad is one of his options already. You never put 2 quads in the second half just to do 3 quad in a whole. It's like a preparation. As I am not surprised if the jump number 3 in his free skate will always be the Flip (with same transitions, entries and location over the years).
And yes, Yuzuru isn't getting younger but he isn't that old. Yuzuru is not even at his peak. Javi can peak at 25. So Yuzuru at age 23 can certainly do more. I don't think 4 quad Lp is out of his reach. Of course I am worried about his health. So if he decides to do such high risk program, i hope he better do it because his body allows him to do it, not because he just wants to have highest BV.

 

[Poice]

And how many guys out there would have 5 quads with quality and difficulty (almost every jump in second half, difficult transitions in and out of jumps, difficult positions in spins etc.) that Yuzu has now? Two? Maybe three? I know we all see Yuzuru as a huge talent that happens once in years (if not decades) but let's be realistic here....2 quads in SP (one in second half) and 3 quads (two in second half with two 3A) executed with Yuzu's quality is going to be more than enough to win next Olympics.

 

[Interspectator]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x45jk9o_jchmiyagi-160419_sport
Coverage of the loooooong line of people waiting for the Weekend Sendai tourism magazine.
All magazines were gone within the first day.

The organizers said that his photoshoot was difficult because Yuzu is so well known, they had to choose photo locations carefully so as not to be mobbed.
They invite you to pose in the same way Yuzu posed in these locations while apologizing at the same time...(because it's not going to be the same.)

 

[Pamigena]

All magazines were gone within the first day.

shocker

 

[Marin]

Brian Orser interview with CANON in Japanese: http://web.canon.jp/event/skating/interview/int_brian01_1.html Can anyone translate it please?

So it seems Brian has a conservative approach about loop, saying it is not necessary unless he wants to find a new motivation , totally same as Yuzu VS Salchow case ))
So prepare for bringing quadloop ...