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Evgenia Medvedeva's 3S-3T-3T-3T

Sam-Skwantch said:
Her legs made it able for her to reach out really wide on the 3t with the toe pick. Her body's shape is one that that most ladies don't have and those legs gave her a jump style all her own. Not a flawless technique but dear god....the consistency.
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I mean, that's sort of like saying Michael Phelps has big feet which allows him to gain more power from swim strokes. The nature of sports is that it favors people most physically suited to it. Kenyans win most long distance races because of their physical mutations. Doesn't necessarily make them less incredible as athletes.

Jammers said:
I remember when Gracie was doing 3-3-3's in practice and uploading the video's on Youtube back in late 2011 when she was a mostly unknown skater. Needless to say she never planned on doing them in competition though. I have to say watching those 3-3-3's Gracie did in practice at the same age Evgenia is now she had more speed and power going into her jumps and unlike Med was already mostly past her growth spurts and had filled out and didn't have those skinny leg's that Med has.
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Gracie went through reverse puberty. She used to have that Tuktamysheva/Yuna Kim 90 pre-degree rotation with no "drag" on the toe pick. Now even when she's clean, she's doing a 180 on the ice just like every other lady. It goes to show that you need the right coach/training methods are just as important as your body/natural ability.
 
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russianbratz said:
I mean, that's sort of like saying Michael Phelps has big feet which allows him to gain more power from swim strokes. The nature of sports is that it favors people most physically suited to it. Kenyans win most long distance races because of their physical mutations. Doesn't necessarily make them less incredible as athletes.



Gracie went through reverse puberty. She used to have that Tuktamysheva/Yuna Kim 90 degree rotation with no pre-rotation "drag" on the toe pick. Now even when she's clean, she's doing a 180 on the ice just like every other lady. It goes to show that you need the right coach/training methods are just as important as your body/natural ability.
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Michael Phelps does have big feet and LONG torso, which help a lot. FYI, Ian Thorpe has huge feet too.

Lize used to do triple lutz triple toe beautifully, sad she lost it.
 
JayW said:
Michael Phelps does have big feet and LONG torso, which help a lot. FYI, Ian Thorpe has huge feet too.

Lize used to do triple lutz triple toe beautifully, sad she lost it.
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I find it really weird that Liza lost her 3Lz-3T, considering how her technique for both jumps is pretty solid. :scratch2:
 
russianbratz said:
I mean, that's sort of like saying Michael Phelps has big feet which allows him to gain more power from swim strokes. The nature of sports is that it favors people most physically suited to it. Kenyans win most long distance races because of their physical mutations. Doesn't necessarily make them less incredible as athletes.
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I certainly wasn't suggesting anything of the sort.
 
andyjo24 said:
I find it really weird that Liza lost her 3Lz-3T, considering how her technique for both jumps is pretty solid. :scratch2:
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I bet she still does it in practice, the issue is consistency. We all know that Liza has major consistency issues in the SP, and now that she's trying the 3a, to try a 3lz-3t as well would just be too risky IMO. With a 3a and 3t-3t in the 2nd half, it's not like she needs a boost in her BV anyways.
 
I'm pretty sure Liza chose to not do the Lz T because she was training the 3A. I also think she's more of a power jumper than a combination jumper if that makes sense. Plus the rules now favor a 3A over difficult combos.
 
Amei said:
The amazing thing to me is that she has decent flow out of the last jump, where it's not super-slow. I hate 3 jump combos where after the 3rd jump the skater is basically stopped on the ice.
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Exactly that's what bothers me too. I've seen skaters practice as many jumps in a row as they can. Never saw someone doing a combination as good as this :clap:

andyjo24 said:
Her combination is awesome! :shocked:

But! The real test will be whether she maintains her jumps after she fills out. Her legs will not remain skinny forever. Time will tell.
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Pretty strong skinny legs though... must include some muscles :thumbsup:

Ares said:
3-3-3 was a trademark combo of Kevin van der Perren. Irina Slutskaya also is credited for completing such in competition. On top of it Plushenko made 4-3-3 combination.
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Kevin jumping 4-3-3 at worlds 2010!
 
 
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Hm Nugumanova has a video of at least a 2A-3T-3T-2Lo but I'd imagine she's done something more difficult.
 
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Lipea said:
Hahaha. Did you try to check Polina Tsurskaya's prerotation? Out of the current ladies it seems that her combinations are the best, although we have to see how it will change with years.
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Considering how tall she already is (and her body looks pretty mature too, she doesn´t look much younger than Evgenia and Elena, for example)... Hopefully no big changes =)
 
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