I see. Usually this will occupy a combo box. I need to check the newest technical panel handbook again, I think.
Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season
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I see. Usually this will occupy a combo box. I need to check the newest technical panel handbook again, I think.
News clip. He does his FS runthrough here. It looks like he did 4S (instead of 3Lz) as his last jump (based on the music background and entry into camel spin) or is my eyes fooling me? 
He said something about Nathan too. (Before people freaking out this is just practice not actual layout and I might be wrong)
Another News Clip. Parts of his SP runthrough and SP draw + talking and joking with Ryuju and Keiji
ETA : More news clip of practice runthrough. He attempted 4Lo 3 times here. The first one looks like the one in the FS.
The second attempt of 4Lo : hands+stepout but he managed to attach a spread-eagle exit. Third attempt of 4Lo : hangs on but managed to exit with a spread-eagle too
He said something about Nathan too. (Before people freaking out this is just practice not actual layout and I might be wrong)Another News Clip. Parts of his SP runthrough and SP draw + talking and joking with Ryuju and Keiji
ETA : More news clip of practice runthrough. He attempted 4Lo 3 times here. The first one looks like the one in the FS.
The second attempt of 4Lo : hands+stepout but he managed to attach a spread-eagle exit. Third attempt of 4Lo : hangs on but managed to exit with a spread-eagle too
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Walls of text instead of just saying that you have a personal, arbitrary definition of a pretty common phrase.
Hanyu does a more difficult layout that carries more risk.
Others do a less difficult layout that carries less risk.
They come out of that with pretty much the same points.
The risk for Hanyu is higher while the gains are equal, so yes, saying he does not do it for the points is correct by what is a common understanding of the phrase.
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News clip. He does his FS runthrough here. It looks like he did 4S (instead of 3Lz) as his last jump (based on the music background and entry into camel spin) or is my eyes fooling me?
Another News Clip. Parts of his SP runthrough and SP draw + talking and joking with Ryuju and Keiji
That was a 3S ... wasn't it? Bah maybe my eyes are fooling me as well
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News clip. He does his FS runthrough here. It looks like he did 4S (instead of 3Lz) as his last jump (based on the music background and entry into camel spin) or is my eyes fooling me?
Yes, it was an emergency 4S
So I guess I was right when I said that he missed the second 4S and because of that he did the combo 4T3T and 4S as the last jump, amazing:shocked:
News clip. He does his FS runthrough here. It looks like he did 4S (instead of 3Lz) as his last jump (based on the music background and entry into camel spin) or is my eyes fooling me?
Another News Clip. Parts of his SP runthrough and SP draw + talking and joking with Ryuju and Keiji
Can someone please translate what he said to Ryuju and Keiji?
Thanks in advance
Yuzuru has made me doubt my ability in distinguishing between quad and triple at times but I am pretty sure it was a quad sal this time.
Yes, it was an emergency 4S
I am partially glad this practice was not streamed or I would have had a heart attack.
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Yes, it was an emergency 4S
*hides*
Seriously though, that's a good sign. I mean disregarding any layout change, I'd say that he can just spit out a 4S at that point is awesome for his state.
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Okay I may not be following the thread correctly so forgive me guys. But if Yuzu is doing a 4t/3t, can he do two 4S without either being in combo?
Also, Happy Thanksgiving to any Americans in here!
Also, Happy Thanksgiving to any Americans in here!
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This is my last say on this topic. I do think he will/should get more points when he does a more difficult layout that carries more risk well. The current judging system gives (or is supposed to) high reward to high risk if the judging is fair. Whether judges wil give him higher scores is a different issue. But high risk, high reward is what a fair judging system should be like. High risk low reward in fact means unfair or biased judging.
We have seen judges giving higher PCS or even GOE to skaters who attempt more difficult combos. E.g. ladies doing more difficult 3-3 and those who do more difficult 3-3 often get higher goe and pcs. So even though the rules itself don't explicitly reward more difficult combos (and many people have complained about this for a long time), we have seen many skaters attempting more difficult combos, and getting rewards in some other ways like in GOE or PCS. Of course if judges apply double standard, then some skaters don't get more points by taking more risk, while some skaters get more or equal number of points by taking less risk.
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- Yuzuruuuuu! ....slightly longer clips...still shots #1, #2, #3, #4
- That is our boy Yuzu, yes call them to sit in the front :agree: :luv17:
Yuzu & Satoko
- Yuzu & Nam
- News on team Japan men. Press conference photos: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7
- More photos: #1, #2 (source), #3
....slightly longer clips...still shots #1, #2, #3, #4- That is our boy Yuzu, yes call them to sit in the front :agree: :luv17:
Yuzu & Satoko
- Yuzu & Nam
- News on team Japan men. Press conference photos: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7
- More photos: #1, #2 (source), #3
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Wrong, Javi did 4-2 and 3-2 at CoR, no 4-3, no 3-3. And he got 205 there. This system reward reputation and "consistency". It does not reward originaltiy and risk as much as people think.
Well, the current judging is not consistent and people complain about it all the time. It varies with different skaters and in different competitions. It changes all the time. But the judging is outside of skaters' control. If yuzuru does 4-2 and 3-3, he will end up with lower scores. Javi got high score with 4-2 and 3-3 doesn't mean yuzuru will get higher score with 4-2 and 3-3. Judges don't necessarily apply the same standard. None of the men is more consistent or has better reputation than Yuzuru.
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Besides Javi also gets higher PCS when he does 4-3 than when he does 4-2. So even for skaters who are overscored, they also get bonus for doing 4-3 even if he gets no extra BV for doing it. If you look at the bigger picture, i.e. look at the whole field, not just focus on one person or one particular performance, you will notice that almost every man who attempts 4-3 will a bit more bonus in PCS than when he attempts no 4-3 even if the BV are the same. Skaters who get inflation will get some bonus for attempting 4-3 in addition to the inflation he receives. Skaters who get deflation also get some bonus for attempting 4-3 in addition to the deflation he receives.
Patrick has been attempting 4-3 for a long time. There are also many other skaters who have been attempting 4-3 many times in competition. Many ladies attempt attempt harder 3-3 many times in competition even though they don't get gain additional BV. Do they all do it to challenge themselves? They all want to impress the judges and make a statement for themselves, thus get higher score. Yuzuru's rational for attempting 4-3 isn't any different from other men who attempt 4-3 in their LP. Tbh, I don't get why a wise and rational decision by yuzuru is somehow seen irrational, reckless or even stupid by his fans.
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Yes, it was an emergency 4S
:shocked::shocked::shocked:Sit tight people
*hides*
Seriously though, that's a good sign. I mean disregarding any layout change, I'd say that he can just spit out a 4S at that point is awesome for his state.
Well at least it is not a YOLO 4Lz
He can but he will only get 70 % BV due to the +REP
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Aww, is he sayingg "It's the first time we're in the same category"? If he is how cuuuuute♥ I love seeing the three of them together
Also ugh he is such a kid, was he really playing with the chairs because of the sound it made?
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