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He didn't do Biellmann. And his drag in SP was shorter too. I start thinking it's something else and it has nothing to do with the music. But anyway it's ok. No Biellmann isn't an issue.
Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season
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4Lo and 4T from Japanese TV news:https://twitter.com/norakuro008/status/832874027030949888
Now 4Lo seems to be his most stable jump... I don't know I should be happy or not. :noshake:
Now 4Lo seems to be his most stable jump... I don't know I should be happy or not. :noshake:
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as my friend said he did, some combos and solo ones after RT
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What did I wake up to? Uh.
So all the jumps look good apart from the Sal. He also looks extremely frustrated with it. The SP takes its toll.
You may call me negative nelly but it isn't working. It's time for Brian to step in. Swap out the 4S-3T, relieve the pressure from a combination that is messing up the solo 4S too by simply removing it from the equation. If you keep making the same mistake, expecting a different outcome, well then.
They must have a backup plan of some sort, so whatever that is, use it now. I wouldn't do a second 4T unless they planned for it but if they can, do a radical shift. Doesn't matter if he falls, and he won't, the 4Lo looks great. The solo 4S will be fine then.
Start the program with a 4Lo-3T. Then let it roll from there. I don't expect it though. The morning practices are his bane, he won't do well on it, so that's not an indication of anything.
So all the jumps look good apart from the Sal. He also looks extremely frustrated with it. The SP takes its toll.
You may call me negative nelly but it isn't working. It's time for Brian to step in. Swap out the 4S-3T, relieve the pressure from a combination that is messing up the solo 4S too by simply removing it from the equation. If you keep making the same mistake, expecting a different outcome, well then.
They must have a backup plan of some sort, so whatever that is, use it now. I wouldn't do a second 4T unless they planned for it but if they can, do a radical shift. Doesn't matter if he falls, and he won't, the 4Lo looks great. The solo 4S will be fine then.
Start the program with a 4Lo-3T. Then let it roll from there. I don't expect it though. The morning practices are his bane, he won't do well on it, so that's not an indication of anything.
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Oh geez, after a good nights rest/some more time, I thought the negativity would have gotten better, but noooo... now there are complains he isn't good enough in practices. Ugh.
Yeah, the 4S seems to be a mental thing now. But he landed the 4S just fine in the NHK & GPF SPs, so it's rather 'new' or at least 'extended'. You know, I can't help feeling people going nuts over the 'combo of doom' blabla jinxed it. Yuzu said he can feel the energy his fans send him - no wonder the 4S is taking a constant potty break then with all that negative energy. So, I blame you negative nellys for it
with some posts here lately, I don't find that all that unreasonable 
(And yes, this is a bit of a joke, because I have no idea what else to say anymore. But it's also more serious than it should)
Yeah, the 4S seems to be a mental thing now. But he landed the 4S just fine in the NHK & GPF SPs, so it's rather 'new' or at least 'extended'. You know, I can't help feeling people going nuts over the 'combo of doom' blabla jinxed it. Yuzu said he can feel the energy his fans send him - no wonder the 4S is taking a constant potty break then with all that negative energy. So, I blame you negative nellys for it
with some posts here lately, I don't find that all that unreasonable (And yes, this is a bit of a joke, because I have no idea what else to say anymore. But it's also more serious than it should)
yes, you can check the video from others OP run through, his 4S and 4S3T alone seems no problem at all....
I saw 5 good one, and 1 popped.
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Sports Hochi also reported that he fixed his Salcow later in the practice. He said the mistakes on Salcow were caused by overthinking.
I'm staying up watching the ladies' FS, but 99% of my thoughts are about the men's FS tomorrow 
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And he has messed up the H&L combination four or wait, five times?
The rest looks excellent, 4Lo never better. But he's frustrated with that Sal. You can see it when he popped the combo. 'Fixing' it later has never been the problem, it's during the actual program. Why not go around the wall, instead of repeatedly hitting it in order to break through? I still expect him to go charging into it one more time though. We'll know the outcome soon enough. I still think he can do it but I also still think that sometimes making your life easier is not a bad thing
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And he has messed up the H&L combination four or wait, five times?
The rest looks excellent, 4Lo never better. But he's frustrated with that Sal. You can see it when he popped the combo. 'Fixing' it later has never been the problem, it's during the actual program. Why not go around the wall, instead of repeatedly hitting it in order to break through? I still expect him to go charging into it one more time though. We'll know the outcome soon enough. I still think he can do it but I also still think that sometimes making your life easier is not a bad thing
You never gonna see this from Yuzu. It's the hard way or no way....
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And he has messed up the H&L combination four or wait, five times?
The rest looks excellent, 4Lo never better. But he's frustrated with that Sal. You can see it when he popped the combo. 'Fixing' it later has never been the problem, it's during the actual program. Why not go around the wall, instead of repeatedly hitting it in order to break through? I still expect him to go charging into it one more time though. We'll know the outcome soon enough. I still think he can do it but I also still think that sometimes making your life easier is not a bad thing
Aaaand... that first part is exactly what I meant. There was an issue with the 4S (LP exclusive) that is now worse or blown out of proportions (and affecting SP/practices) because of 'OMG, the combo of doom'. Of course he could take the 'easy' route and do the combo on the first 4S, I'd personally prefer that too. But what we want doesn't matter compared to what he wants, and if he wants that d*mn 2nd half combo than he should go for it. Even if he just wants it for the lolz. And the constant complains about that combo and what he should do and what would be so much smarter and so on are really starting to get old. Especially because you're doing exactly the same thing you think he's doing wrong - being stubbornly stuck on repeating the same thing (='he needs to chance it, combo of doooooom') instead of taking the easier route (and accepting he will likely go for it and might not land it)
Edit: because I just realized it... 'he messed up the H&L combo 4 or 5 times'? Yes, 4 times. But seriously, you would have expected him to nail it at Autumn Classic or SC? After his bad injury and late season start and the fact he always messes up at his first competitions? Come on, that is way off any reasonable expectations. The 2 instances I think 'make sense to complain' about at all are NHK & GPF - which is only twice. Within a what, 2 weeks time span? I'm still not getting where the drama about that combo came from prior to 4CC. Wanna count how many 4T3T he messed up before he landed it first? Quad combos are hard, okay?
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4CC – SP FEB-17
4CC - PRACTICE, 18-FEB
4CC – SP FEB-17
Yes, I noticed, and my first thought was that how handsome he looks on the picture.:. Edit: I meant this picture.
4CC - PRACTICE, 18-FEB
And he has messed up the H&L combination four or wait, five times?
The rest looks excellent, 4Lo never better. But he's frustrated with that Sal. You can see it when he popped the combo. 'Fixing' it later has never been the problem, it's during the actual program. Why not go around the wall, instead of repeatedly hitting it in order to break through? I still expect him to go charging into it one more time though. We'll know the outcome soon enough. I still think he can do it but I also still think that sometimes making your life easier is not a bad thing
Agree with the bolded part, thing is though he might have been hitting it better (with the new entry?) in practice in Toronto and after messing up the combo in the SP there might be actually an incentive to doing it in the FS, to try to overcome the probably mental block that he is having as a result of yesterday.
Maybe also Yuzuru and Brian see 4CC as a bit of a practice competition, or at least as not as important as Worlds (edited), I suspect this because they have been talking about 4CC being practice for next year, and since they seem to be trying a new "mental" approach with Yuzuru. They seem to be experimenting a bit. Doesn't mean that Yuzuru doesn't want to win obviously and yeah, I think the fact that it is the 4S that is causing problems is the most stressful thing of all. And also I'm not really a fan of the two youngsters cause their empty programs depress me, judges' fault of course not theirs but still it makes it difficult for me to not be a bit annoyed with them - not saying that the placement is wrong though, they do also seem to be lovely people
Also another thought, perhaps this competition is almost more stressful for his fans than for him - hear me out: Cause we care a lot about him and don't get to see him in practice in Toronto, so it's more stressful for us when things go wrong and he looks brittle, cause it feels like it's a more "present" state he's in than what might actually be the case. Also commentators being a bit, "have we seen the best of Yuzuru?" and some US press/self-proclaimed "experts" on twitter wanting Chen to be the greatest ever and Hanyu to fail is probably riling us all up a bit - it is stressful being a fan of anything on the internet is all I'm saying :noshake: So let's hope for the best and try not to be too worried if it doesn't go very well
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Okay I am kind of bipolar. After my acceptance that there is something about can not change. As a fan I just have to live with it. Now my bold statement is that HE WILL WIN 4CC! (Or at least he will win LP).
Cause he messed the SP so his LP will be somewhat okay. With his condition I truly believe he will do at least one program okay and this time it will be the LP. I just have this feeling. :roll9:
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I'M GLAD TO KNOW. and may your words come true!
But yeah, I am actually the real pessimistic optimist here (completely OT, an interesting discussion on pessimism by Alaine de Botton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw1oLtuJOXQ ). I always anticipate the worst to cope with the vagary of fortune, so that I'm okay with all sorts of outcome from Yuzu tmrw
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